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BumRushDaShow

(165,821 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 10:36 AM Mar 2025

On Medicaid cuts, budget officials tell Republicans what they didn't want to hear

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: MSNBC News

March 6, 2025, 9:25 AM EST


When House Republicans advanced their far-right budget plan, congressional Democrats raised all kinds of concerns about the GOP’s misguided blueprint, but much of the focus was on one specific program: Medicaid. Republican leaders pushed back in a deeply misleading way.

“It doesn’t even mention Medicaid in the bill,” House Speaker Mike Johnson said of his party’s budget. “The word ‘Medicaid’ is not even in this bill,” House Majority Leader Steve Scalise added. “This bill doesn’t even mention the word ‘Medicaid’ a single time.”

The truth wasn’t nearly that simple. While the literal text of the bill didn’t reference specific Medicaid cuts, the GOP plan directed the congressional committee that oversees Medicaid to find $880 billion in cuts that can only be found in Medicaid.

A week later, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office confirmed that Democratic criticisms were true. NBC News reported:

House Republicans can’t meet their own budget target that is necessary to pass President Donald Trump’s legislative agenda without making significant cuts to Medicare or Medicaid, the official budget scorekeeper confirmed Wednesday.


Read more: https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/medicaid-cuts-budget-officials-tell-republicans-didnt-want-hear-rcna195095



Link to Congressional Budget Office (CBO) REPORT site - Mandatory Spending Under the Jurisdiction of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce

Link to Congressional Budget Office (CBO) REPORT (PDF) - https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2025-03/61235-Boyle-Pallone.pdf

As a note - when Congress does these "budget reconciliation" bills, CBO *must* "score" them for changes in revenue/outlays and impact on the deficit/debt. As they proceed, you will see more of these (unless Muskrat reaches into Congress and kills the office ).

Linked NBC story - Republicans can't meet their own budget target without cutting Medicare or Medicaid, budget office says
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On Medicaid cuts, budget officials tell Republicans what they didn't want to hear (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 OP
So CBO is next on tsf and eloons list for destruction. lark Mar 2025 #1
And the CBO is NOT an Executive Branch agency - it is an Office within Congress BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #3
This is high on my radicalized sibling's daily rants. Hugin Mar 2025 #2
I have one of these too CountAllVotes Mar 2025 #6
I've been talking about the Nursing Homes, etc., slightlv Mar 2025 #8
Aw, you have my sympathy on your mom. Hugin Mar 2025 #9
CBO: When Medicare and Medicaid are excluded, the committee oversees a total of $581 billion in spending -- much less progree Mar 2025 #4
Used car salesmen, all of them! n/t Cheezoholic Mar 2025 #5
Repubs & Putin want to see the world burn. NotHardly Mar 2025 #7
AFTER a review by forum hosts LOCKING Omaha Steve Mar 2025 #10

lark

(25,898 posts)
1. So CBO is next on tsf and eloons list for destruction.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 10:44 AM
Mar 2025

Every agency that tells the truth about tsf's plans to dismantle American democracy and destroy our economy in favor of Russa is in extreme danger of being gutted. They will cut this asap because r'fascists are fools and cowards and reich wing haters.

BumRushDaShow

(165,821 posts)
3. And the CBO is NOT an Executive Branch agency - it is an Office within Congress
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 11:11 AM
Mar 2025

The reason for its creation sounds oddly familiar...

https://www.cbo.gov/about/history

History

Beginning in the early 1920s, the President began to assume more prominence in setting the federal budget. The Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 gave the President overall responsibility for budget planning by requiring him to submit an annual, comprehensive budget proposal to the Congress; that act also expanded the President’s control over budgetary information by establishing the Bureau of the Budget (renamed the Office of Management and Budget in 1971). By contrast, the Congress lacked institutional capacity to establish and enforce budgetary priorities, coordinate actions on spending and revenue legislation, or develop budgetary and economic information independently of the executive branch.

Conflict between the legislative and executive branches reached a high point during the summer of 1974, when Members of Congress objected to President Richard Nixon’s threats to withhold Congressional appropriations for programs that were inconsistent with his policies (a process known as impoundment). The dispute led to the enactment of the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 in July of that year.

That act reasserted the Congress’s constitutional control over the budget by establishing new procedures for controlling impoundments and by instituting a formal process through which the Congress could develop, coordinate, and enforce its own budgetary priorities independently of the President. In addition, the law created new legislative institutions to implement the new Congressional budget process: the House and Senate Budget Committees to oversee execution of the budget process and the Congressional Budget Office to provide the Budget Committees and the Congress with objective, impartial information about budgetary and economic issues. The agency began operating on February 24, 1975, when Alice Rivlin was appointed its first Director.

(snip)


H.R.7130 - Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974

That was passed by a veto-proof majority, pretty much forcing Nixon to sign it into law (a month before he resigned).

Of course the criminal GOP "party" has been just fine with violations of this Act.

Hugin

(37,444 posts)
2. This is high on my radicalized sibling's daily rants.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 10:50 AM
Mar 2025

Luckily, he’s on our side. Thank goodness.

He’s already forecasting the secondary effects on assisted living and the care centers any cuts to Medicaid would cause. The industry will likely collapse. I have to agree.

The MAGAt better be getting their spare rooms ready. For their kids and kids, kids too. When the DoEd is gutted.

CountAllVotes

(22,077 posts)
6. I have one of these too
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 12:15 PM
Mar 2025

He's on the flip side of this coin.

He is so grotesque!

That tells you all you need to know about this awhole!

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
8. I've been talking about the Nursing Homes, etc.,
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 03:04 PM
Mar 2025

since the very first mention of Medicaid cuts. From personal experience, I knew Mom couldn't come back to live with us again once her memory and physical deterioration got to a certain point. It broke my heart to admit it, but I couldn't take care of her the way she needed to be. But once we went through all her money (what there was of it!), we filed with Medicaid so they'd pick up that portion of nursing home expense that we couldn't pay.

I loved her dearly... at times, she was my best friend and cohort in all kinds of trouble. She died Jan 3... just before all this stuff about cutting medicaid came out. The timing of it still blows my mind; it's like she knew intrinsically what was coming. She hated Dtrump.

Hugin

(37,444 posts)
9. Aw, you have my sympathy on your mom.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 04:44 PM
Mar 2025

Yes, cuts to Medicaid would be devastating to those among us who need help the most. This isn’t solely a Trump thing (although he has a history of walking away from relatives who need care) it’s also a problem with the current crop of Retrumplican legislators and has been all through President Biden’s term as well.

progree

(12,746 posts)
4. CBO: When Medicare and Medicaid are excluded, the committee oversees a total of $581 billion in spending -- much less
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 11:18 AM
Mar 2025

than the $880 billion the House Energy and Commerce Committee has been instructed to cut

From the Economy Group this morning --
https://www.democraticunderground.com/111699822

Republicans can't meet their own budget target without cutting Medicare or Medicaid, budget office says, NBC News 3/5/25

House Republicans can’t meet their own budget target that is necessary to pass President Donald Trump’s legislative agenda without making significant cuts to Medicare or Medicaid, the official budget scorekeeper confirmed Wednesday.

House Republicans adopted a budget blueprint last week that opens the door to pass Trump’s policy priorities on immigration, energy and taxes. It instructs the House Energy and Commerce Committee to cut spending under its jurisdiction by $880 billion.

The Congressional Budget Office, a nonpartisan in-house think tank that referees the process, said that when Medicare is set aside, the total funding under the committee’s jurisdiction is $8.8 trillion over 10 years. Medicaid accounts for $8.2 trillion of that, or 93%.

When Medicare and Medicaid are excluded, the committee oversees a total of $581 billion in spending — much less than the $880 billion target — the CBO said.
(emphasis added)

Cheezoholic

(3,535 posts)
5. Used car salesmen, all of them! n/t
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 12:09 PM
Mar 2025

NotHardly

(2,630 posts)
7. Repubs & Putin want to see the world burn.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 02:08 PM
Mar 2025

Omaha Steve

(108,447 posts)
10. AFTER a review by forum hosts LOCKING
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 04:51 PM
Mar 2025

Feature story, not LBN.

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