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Galraedia

(5,210 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:48 PM 12 hrs ago

GOP Senator Blames Americans for Most of Their Health Problems

Source: Yahoo

Americans who are sick and dying should mostly blame themselves for their health condition. That’s what Sen. Roger Marshall said as Republicans are poised to cut health care access and increase costs for millions of Americans.

“Look, about 70 percent of your health outcomes are determined by you,” Marshall said Sunday on Fox News’ Sunday Morning Futures. “It’s determined by what you eat and what you’re surrounded by. By the time you come to my office as a doctor, I can impact maybe 10 or 20 percent of your health outcomes.”

Marshall did not cite where he got those percentage figures from. A former OBGYN, he is a leader of the newly-formed Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) Caucus. He has said the caucus will work with Dr. Mehmet Oz and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. — Trump’s choice for secretary of Health and Human Services — to “improv[e] health outcomes by prioritizing nutrition, providing access to affordable, nutrient-dense foods, and focusing on primary care availability to tackle the root causes of chronic diseases.” Kennedy has frequently spouted anti-science talking points, including opposing vaccines (saying that “there’s no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective.”) Kennedy has also threatened to fire National Institutes of Health (NIH) scientists, cut NIH and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) budgets, and curtail infectious disease research in favor of “preventative, alternative, and holistic approaches to health.”

Marshall said that MAHA will address “nutrition,” “chronic disease issues” and the “mental health crisis.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-senator-blames-americans-most-170112124.html

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GOP Senator Blames Americans for Most of Their Health Problems (Original Post) Galraedia 12 hrs ago OP
I apologize for My Senator BOSSHOG 12 hrs ago #1
Jesus. What a POS. underpants 12 hrs ago #8
And there was an awesome democrat running against him in 2022 BOSSHOG 12 hrs ago #9
And likewise Nasruddin 10 hrs ago #17
Senator In Cape Girardeau MO we have 95% of the Water Pipe Oneear 12 hrs ago #2
Processed food is cheap and more easily to obtain. Lunabell 12 hrs ago #3
Thank you underpants 12 hrs ago #7
When a single orange is $0.95, The Madcap 5 hrs ago #50
A lot of the problem is crap in our food and water Ritabert 12 hrs ago #4
We would love clean food, air, and water. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #37
Walmart and McDonald's bear the majority blame of the problem.. raising2moredems 5 hrs ago #49
MAHA....HAHAHAHAHA! sdfernando 12 hrs ago #5
So, Dr. Marshall here says he's at best a 20% chance of helping with your...uh...OBGYN? underpants 12 hrs ago #6
I am guess his 20% figure DENVERPOPS 3 hrs ago #56
Whatever happened to "treating the patient in front of you" Diamond_Dog 12 hrs ago #10
I guess Doc Marshall is ok with microplastics bronxiteforever 12 hrs ago #11
I'd like to see Marshall try to live for 6 months on a low income budget crimycarny 12 hrs ago #12
++++yes! Diamond_Dog 11 hrs ago #14
And no grocery store leftieNanner 9 hrs ago #31
No cheating, Marshall meow2u3 7 hrs ago #41
He's going to address the "mental health crisis?" Should be easy. Look in a mirror. Vinca 11 hrs ago #13
What a hateful, loathsome piece of shit. Sounds like he went into medicine solely for the $$$. 50 Shades Of Blue 11 hrs ago #15
Kiss my ass liberalgunwilltravel 11 hrs ago #16
So the corporations that make our foods and put additives, dyes and other chemicals in our foods are not to kimbutgar 10 hrs ago #18
And what homegirl 10 hrs ago #19
Some people MLWR 10 hrs ago #20
Ok...and let me explain my autoimmune situation FirstLight 10 hrs ago #21
It doesn't have to be either or Mblaze 10 hrs ago #22
New health insurance requirement: Red Mountain 10 hrs ago #23
Watch that space TommyT139 7 hrs ago #43
Exactly how do you control what you're surrounded by? TexasBushwhacker 10 hrs ago #24
Republican assholes like the late Rush Limberger always say, "well they can just move." They have no Martin68 10 hrs ago #26
Yeah, move to the wide open spaces TexasBushwhacker 8 hrs ago #33
Yes Rebl2 7 hrs ago #46
Red states have the worst health care and health outcomes in the country. Be nice if his supporters got Martin68 10 hrs ago #25
The elite have spoken Godot51 9 hrs ago #27
Face it, my friends ReRe 9 hrs ago #28
Blaming people for their own health problems Demobrat 9 hrs ago #29
Former OBGYN? What about those who are disabled because they survived birth? mentalsolstice 9 hrs ago #30
Does anyone remember the furious GQP backlash SharonClark 9 hrs ago #32
Yep. I remember Sarah Palin with her infamous "Big Gulp"... keep_left 8 hrs ago #34
Great point and Marshall kept his yap shut in 2018 bronxiteforever 8 hrs ago #35
Absolutely Rebl2 7 hrs ago #45
This is how they justify cutting off our healthcare. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #36
The next step will be The Madcap 5 hrs ago #51
Let Me Get This Straight... GB_RN 8 hrs ago #38
It's one of the "promises" that Chump ran on this time FakeNoose 6 hrs ago #48
Same with infectious diseases and accidents? IronLionZion 8 hrs ago #39
He's absolutely right Lithos 8 hrs ago #40
Sheer nonsense bmichaelh 7 hrs ago #42
Tell that Rebl2 7 hrs ago #44
"If I blame the victims, I don't have any obligation to help them." nt spooky3 6 hrs ago #47
None of them care about you Keepthesoulalive 5 hrs ago #52
I note he didn't say a fucking word about physical fitness Aviation Pro 5 hrs ago #53
Because of course he does. soldierant 3 hrs ago #54
Sen. Roger was an OBGYN. LastLiberal in PalmSprings 3 hrs ago #55
Post removed Post removed 2 hrs ago #57
Have I mentioned lately just how much I hate the entire GOP? Hekate 1 hr ago #58
So therefore . . . . no_hypocrisy 56 min ago #59
"How dare you be born with a genetic defect?" "How dare you get sick and expect payback on your premiums?" C0RI0LANUS 33 min ago #60

BOSSHOG

(40,482 posts)
1. I apologize for My Senator
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:52 PM
12 hrs ago

Okay some Senator go on the morning shows and justify withholding payment of insurance. How bout it’s all the patients fault? Yeah that’ll do. My number one benefactor in health care maintenance wants a larger yacht this year.

underpants

(187,690 posts)
8. Jesus. What a POS.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:11 PM
12 hrs ago

Marshall has voted in favor of repealing the Affordable Care Act and against protections for Americans who have preexisting conditions. He supports a free market approach to health care and has advocated for fewer restrictions on physician-owned hospitals, an industry he and his family have been heavily invested in. Marshall helped lead the transition of a surgery center into a physician-owned hospital in Kansas. And in the three years before 2020, Marshall’s wife earned somewhere between $195,000-450,000 from real estate investments in physician-owned hospitals, according to a 2020 report in The Kansas City Star.

“Just like Jesus said, ‘The poor will always be with us,’” Marshall told STAT News in 2017. “There is a group of people that just don’t want health care and aren’t going to take care of themselves.”

BOSSHOG

(40,482 posts)
9. And there was an awesome democrat running against him in 2022
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:21 PM
12 hrs ago

But Noooooo said the patriotic Toto land dumbasses. Voting against their best interests.

Nasruddin

(888 posts)
17. And likewise
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 05:50 PM
10 hrs ago
“Just like Jesus said, ‘The poor will always be with us,’”

So will assholes.
I think that's about as out of context a quote as you can get from the Bible.

Oneear

(189 posts)
2. Senator In Cape Girardeau MO we have 95% of the Water Pipe
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:53 PM
12 hrs ago

It is of Galvanized Pipe Dipped in Zinc, Which is Lead Pipe. Will you help Us Get Grant money to Remove all the Water Pipe Please

Lunabell

(7,098 posts)
3. Processed food is cheap and more easily to obtain.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:58 PM
12 hrs ago

They love to blame their victims. My little town is a food desert. Without transportation, people in my community have one little dollar general that has expensive fresh fruits and vegetables.

Luckily, we have a community refrigerator that a church and other volunteers like myself, fill with fresh fruit, vegetables and meats. Also dairy, dried beans and cereal products.

The Madcap

(729 posts)
50. When a single orange is $0.95,
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:00 PM
5 hrs ago

how does he think poor people can afford nutritious food. Oh. I get it. Just don't eat anything, and the weight will melt right off.

Ritabert

(807 posts)
4. A lot of the problem is crap in our food and water
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:58 PM
12 hrs ago

Check out all the products with high fructose corn syrup which is used to fatten cattle. Or the chemistry set of chemicals in processed food. And no mention of the bad water in many cities.

raising2moredems

(722 posts)
49. Walmart and McDonald's bear the majority blame of the problem..
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:54 PM
5 hrs ago

Crap fast food for Mickey D's. Walmart pays their employees shit so they are forced to buy "Great Value" (mostly ultra processed barely could be called food). Walmart squeezes suppliers, who keep their bonus/profit off the backs of their employers. What's The Matter With Kansas - let's start with their politicians. I'm seeing cracks starting, it ain't gonna be pretty. Please watch out/help out good people in your circle.

sdfernando

(5,466 posts)
5. MAHA....HAHAHAHAHA!
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:01 PM
12 hrs ago

"Marshall said that MAHA will address “nutrition,” “chronic disease issues” and the “mental health crisis.”"

I'm 100000000000% sure they will address these issues all wrong!

Maybe Marshall should have embraced Michelle Obama's "Let's Move!" initiative instead of just hating on the Democrats....but I'm sure WE ALL know why he didn't!

underpants

(187,690 posts)
6. So, Dr. Marshall here says he's at best a 20% chance of helping with your...uh...OBGYN?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:06 PM
12 hrs ago

Got it. 👍 …..👀

DENVERPOPS

(10,315 posts)
56. I am guess his 20% figure
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 01:26 AM
3 hrs ago

is based on the patients he sees in Kansas??????????

LOL, he is talking about Republicans since the state is pretty red....LOL

Diamond_Dog

(35,409 posts)
10. Whatever happened to "treating the patient in front of you"
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:24 PM
12 hrs ago

Instead of

“Judging the patient in front of you.”

What a total POS.

bronxiteforever

(9,624 posts)
11. I guess Doc Marshall is ok with microplastics
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:26 PM
12 hrs ago

in Americans’ brains. It makes sense because he is ok with brain worms apparently.

As of 2023, Kansas's obesity rate is 35.9%, ranking it 12th in the nation for obesity prevalence: This dirtbag has been in office since 2017. He has been a failure for his own state.

Marshall, who represents a rural state, supports farm subsidies, such as federal crop insurance. His support for subsidies gained him the 2016 endorsement of the Kansas Farm Bureau in the Republican primary.

Marshall supports repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare).

Typical “money for me not for thee” GOP.

crimycarny

(1,662 posts)
12. I'd like to see Marshall try to live for 6 months on a low income budget
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:34 PM
12 hrs ago

I wish we could force moronic politicians to try and live like the people they are judging.

Let's see Sen. Marshall try to buy fresh fruits and vegetables on a minimum wage budget. Let's see him get in time for exercise while working two jobs, barely able to afford rent, let alone a gym membership, and living in an area where you can just take a daily walk or jog.

meow2u3

(24,953 posts)
41. No cheating, Marshall
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:43 PM
7 hrs ago

He won't be allowed to live off his savings and investments, nor will he be able to live in his own home. We'll decide where he'll live (and it won't be in a tony neigborhood), and he'll have to make his inadequate amount of public assistance and SNAP benefits last the entire month.

How much do you want to bet he won't be able to pass the low income budget challenge without cheating?

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,960 posts)
15. What a hateful, loathsome piece of shit. Sounds like he went into medicine solely for the $$$.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 05:24 PM
11 hrs ago

kimbutgar

(23,781 posts)
18. So the corporations that make our foods and put additives, dyes and other chemicals in our foods are not to
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 05:53 PM
10 hrs ago

Blame but the American people are?

he is a special kind of d of stupid.

homegirl

(1,595 posts)
19. And what
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:05 PM
10 hrs ago

percentage by stress? Or inadequate diagnosis? A friend recently had open heart surgery. Took three emergency visits to Kaiser to produce an accurate diagnosis. The third visit the doctor admitted that women are frequently not diagnosed for heart conditions. They know but they don't look for it!!!

MLWR

(31 posts)
20. Some people
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:09 PM
10 hrs ago

become physicians because they genuinely want to help people. Others become physicians because physicians often make a lot more money than other professionals. I, for one, prefer my doctor to be of the first group mentioned. You couldn't pay me to see this guy on a professional basis.

FirstLight

(14,362 posts)
21. Ok...and let me explain my autoimmune situation
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:16 PM
10 hrs ago

Because nobody knows where it came from apparently it's genetic, but it could have been because my father played in a polluted stream when he was a child and it changed his dna, but no it's all my fault because I don't eat properly? Fuck him

Mblaze

(445 posts)
22. It doesn't have to be either or
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:21 PM
10 hrs ago

It can be both allopathic and naturopathic. Don't make it a contest.

Red Mountain

(1,949 posts)
23. New health insurance requirement:
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:22 PM
10 hrs ago

Before they pay anything you have to convince your insurer that something you did or didn't do isn't contributing to your health issue.

Seems reasonable.

TommyT139

(779 posts)
43. Watch that space
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:58 PM
7 hrs ago

Mandated coverage of some preventative care (passed along with the ACA) is going to the Supreme Court. I fully expect the anti-coverage lawyers to invoke "personal responsibility" In arguing against coverage.

Rethugs have tried this angle before, in trying to avoid coverage for PrEP and I think contraception -- they didn't get far because of the ACA requirements, so that are tackling that. Wait until they find out that straight folks get HIV too!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,777 posts)
24. Exactly how do you control what you're surrounded by?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:24 PM
10 hrs ago

Where you live as a dependent child is chosen by your parents. As long as you are a dependent child, what you eat is provided by your parents. As a dependent child, you may be affected by your parents bad habits, like smoking and drinking.

While many people don't become obese until they are adults, obese kids have a tough time turning things around in adulthood.

Martin68

(24,805 posts)
26. Republican assholes like the late Rush Limberger always say, "well they can just move." They have no
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:30 PM
10 hrs ago

idea why poverty is, what causes it, and how it affects your life.

Martin68

(24,805 posts)
25. Red states have the worst health care and health outcomes in the country. Be nice if his supporters got
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:28 PM
10 hrs ago

wind of this.

Godot51

(316 posts)
27. The elite have spoken
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:48 PM
9 hrs ago

People must be educated in health, healthy life styles, and healthy choices;
foods must be regulated to be healthy;
medicines must be tested to be the best possible;
hospitals must be regulated under a National Health program;
doctors, nurses and all medical workers must be trained and retrained to national standards and up to date technology;
private insurance must get out of people's lives;
all health care costs must be regulated;
and everyone needs access to healthy foods, clean air, water, and environment;
and everyone needs the ability to pay for these things.

What we all need is a similar level of life, education, welfare, healthcare, and income, such as that a U.S. senator. receives.

Demobrat

(9,978 posts)
29. Blaming people for their own health problems
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 07:09 PM
9 hrs ago

couldn’t possibly be the first step towards kicking them off disability, could it? Nah. They would never do that.

mentalsolstice

(4,534 posts)
30. Former OBGYN? What about those who are disabled because they survived birth?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 07:32 PM
9 hrs ago

I’m disabled because the Dr. on call at the time let my mom labor for 30+ hours and I suffered from oxygen deprivation. But yeah, it’s my fault that the medical staff in the room that day worked hard on a baby born blue to get her to breathe, while her mother was unconscious.

I worked hard to overcome my disabilities, got a JD and a Master’s…..worked long hours until my body just succumbed to early aging.

He doesn’t realize that we’re all 1 second away from being disabled.

SharonClark

(10,372 posts)
32. Does anyone remember the furious GQP backlash
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 07:38 PM
9 hrs ago

against Michelle Obama, when she proposed that children eat nutritious lunches?

There was lots of talk about the government, “keeping their hands off my children”, and “no one is going to tell me what my children should eat”.

What hypocrites!

keep_left

(2,583 posts)
34. Yep. I remember Sarah Palin with her infamous "Big Gulp"...
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:01 PM
8 hrs ago

...beverage at a CPAC event years ago. This was when Michael Bloomberg was trying to pass a "sugar tax" in NYC.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219729247#post23

bronxiteforever

(9,624 posts)
35. Great point and Marshall kept his yap shut in 2018
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:04 PM
8 hrs ago

By KWCH; Nick Viviani
Published: Dec. 10, 2018 at 3:12 PM EST
President Donald Trump's administration last week relaxed school-lunch rules championed by former first lady Michelle Obama and meant to make school lunches healthier.

The program is now again making room on menus for noodles, biscuits and other foods made of refined grains. The White House is scaling back school lunch standards requiring that only whole grains be served.The standards were implemented in 2012 under former President Barack Obama.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture last week said only half the grains served in school lunches will need to be whole grains.

Low-fat chocolate milk and a final goal of limiting sodium will also be scrapped with the relaxed rules.
https://www.wibw.com/content/news/Trump-administration-rolling-back-Michelle-Obamas-school-lunch-rules-502378041.html#

Irish_Dem

(60,651 posts)
36. This is how they justify cutting off our healthcare.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:06 PM
8 hrs ago

Being sick is our own fault.
We need to be punished for it.

Maybe if Americans weren't stressed out all the time they could relax and be healthier.

The Madcap

(729 posts)
51. The next step will be
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:08 PM
5 hrs ago

Disposal of the sick...the hard way...just like in Nazi Germany... if we let it get that far.

GB_RN

(3,250 posts)
38. Let Me Get This Straight...
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:26 PM
8 hrs ago

We make large strides to shrink the amount of uncompensated care that hospitals have to absorb, by expanding Medicaid and giving insurance subsidies. But now, we’re going to undo all that, by cutting Medicaid and/or turning into block grants - which can be used for what-the-fuck-ever a state wishes to? More hospitals’ bottom lines are going to drop right back into the red, resulting in more closures, especially in rural areas - areas like every damned red state. This will echo back up the ladder to Pharma and medical device companies, as spending on their products will necessarily be cut back at all levels of healthcare.

This is goddamned stupid.

FakeNoose

(36,169 posts)
48. It's one of the "promises" that Chump ran on this time
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:00 PM
6 hrs ago

It's the reason why Elon Musk is put in charge of cutting all the "benefits" to the American citizens.
The fact that WE PAY for all of it with our taxes is totally beside the point.

IronLionZion

(47,292 posts)
39. Same with infectious diseases and accidents?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:36 PM
8 hrs ago

I suppose people cause their own pregnancies since he's an OBGYN. But how about conditions people are born with?

Good that we have Oz and RFK Jr. on the case. America is going to get super healthy with snake oil quackery and forgoing vaccination. Idiots.

Lithos

(26,474 posts)
40. He's absolutely right
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:39 PM
8 hrs ago

It is a life choice to keep voting morons like him into office.

L-

bmichaelh

(655 posts)
42. Sheer nonsense
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:51 PM
7 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:31 PM - Edit history (1)

This is sheer nonsense.

There was cancer before there were GMO foods or pesticides.

In fact, it goes back some 5000 years.

Also, there are some diseases that have a genetic basis.

I was diagnosed with Crohns; four years later I was diagnosed with lymphoma.

I have since learned that some patients with Crohns are at higher risk for lymphoma.

This senator should visit a couple of children hospitals.

Rebl2

(15,107 posts)
44. Tell that
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:16 PM
7 hrs ago

to parents whose six month old child develops cancer. Tell that to nine year old me that developed rheumatoid arthritis. Fuck these asshole republicans.

Aviation Pro

(13,615 posts)
53. I note he didn't say a fucking word about physical fitness
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:18 PM
5 hrs ago

And not one goddamn word about pushing pharmaceuticals down our throats.

soldierant

(8,075 posts)
54. Because of course he does.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 12:44 AM
3 hrs ago

Despite the fact that it's so obvious that if we have better curricula in public schools - teach things like nutrition (I did in junior high, and I'm maybe not the best example, seeing as that was in the 50's and knowledge of what is good nutrition has come along way since them, in addition to the fact that allergies to some foods make it vastly more difficult.) It would also not hurt to teach actual civics

Of course he wants to squeeze every possible penny out of public education too..

55. Sen. Roger was an OBGYN.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 01:16 AM
3 hrs ago

That does not make him an expert on all things medical. In fact, his expertise is limited to one half of the population. He is not a nutritionist, nor a psychiatrist nor an epidemiologist. If he doesn't cite the source for his "facts" then he's pulling the numbers out of his ass.

I feel sorry for his patients -- and his family.

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

no_hypocrisy

(49,444 posts)
59. So therefore . . . .
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 03:46 AM
56 min ago

It's my fault if I get sick (and perhaps die) because corporations polluted the air and water which I ingested. Or industrial farmers used hormones and antibiotics on the meat, pork, and poultry that I consumed. Or commercial farmers who sprayed poisonous weed-killers on the produce that either I ate or the meat, pork, and poultry that I ate. Or the state and/or federal government agencies that downplayed COVID, telling the population not to mask up, or get vaccines, or go out in the general public when having an active virus.

And it's my fault for not having enough money to buy organic meat, poultry, pork, fish, produce.

And it's my fault for having cancer based on my family's DNA.

Yup, I don't deserve healthcare funding.

C0RI0LANUS

(2,271 posts)
60. "How dare you be born with a genetic defect?" "How dare you get sick and expect payback on your premiums?"
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 04:09 AM
33 min ago
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