TikTok warns of broad consequences if Supreme Court allows ban
Source: Reuters
January 11, 2025 7:53 AM EST Updated 11 hours ago
WASHINGTON, Jan 11 (Reuters) - The lawyer for TikTok and its Chinese parent company ByteDance offered a warning during Supreme Court arguments over a law that would compel the sale of the short-video app or ban it in the United States: If Congress could do this to TikTok, it could come after other companies, too.
The law, which was the subject of arguments before the nine justices on Friday, sets a Jan. 19 deadline for ByteDance to sell the popular social media platform or face a ban on national security grounds. The companies have sought, at the very least, a delay in implementation of the law, which they say violates the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protection against government abridgment of free speech.
Noel Francisco, representing TikTok and ByteDance, argued that Supreme Court endorsement of this law could enable statutes targeting other companies on similar grounds.
"AMC movie theaters used to be owned by a Chinese company. Under this theory, Congress could order AMC movie theaters to censor any movies that Congress doesn't like or promote any movies that Congress wanted," Francisco told the justices. The justices signaled through their questions during the arguments that they were inclined to uphold the law, although some expressed serious concerns about its First Amendment implications.
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emulatorloo
(45,644 posts)As despicable and disingenuous as the Trump lawyers.
endgenocide
(87 posts)AMC movie theaters does not collect the ticket holders data. This argument like everything else diaper Don does is made for the rubes what watch FOX News. Tik-tok needs to either divest to an American owned companies that shields its users data from China or shut down. I think th3 country can survive with one less needless social media toy.
FakeNoose
(36,164 posts)... or to sell out to an American company. Time's up Tiktok. Good-bye!
Igel
(36,352 posts)It's already (recently) been shown that what the recommends in TikTok do tend to skew pro-PRC and pro-PRC party line on issues that the PRC cares about. The PRC proper and international issues like their ME relations, such as Gaza (where even a recent PRC presentation managed to erase the Israeli borders and label the area "Palestine" ... Tres a la Hamas). If you're pro-PRC they through you more pro-PRC recs, if you're anti-PRC they still more often than not give you pro-PRC recs. It's not all reinforcing what you prefer, the usual complaint. So, yeah, there's a "let's manipulate the impressionable youth" component to it.
Their recommend algorithm isn't just there to bump up the number of views. There's also a push for some preferred topics to be viewed--I imagine this means some people will be turned off and *reduce* the number of views. So it's not a pure "capitalist", view-driven algorithm. Hate it on Facebook, hate it on TikTok.
However, this issue is mostly a canard, a misdirect, and a fairly blatant one. One online source did justice to the issue when it pointed out the irony implicit in a Kavanaugh question that made it all but a "gotcha question". The gist of the question was whether they thought it possible that years after you did something as a teenager, say when you're in government or up for some important governmental post, something embarrassing from your teen years could suddenly show up to skewer you and slam your possible appointment or position or compromise you after the fact? The TikTok lawyer was simply stuck. He couldn't answer "no" given the circumstance; to answer "yes" would be to concede the national security point or be forced to argue that the PRC was not a security concern. So he avoided the question and the justices came back to it. As they should have.
The same "youthful indiscretion" bit could be said for a previous (D) governor. Or any number of other people. Heck, I know adults who do stupid things and immediately regret it--once and done, the act reflects some stupid whim or poor decision or lack of thinking because of those LI iced teas and while it may reflect a weakness it doesn't reflect a deeply held character trait or habit.
Shipwack
(2,364 posts)While I'm not a fan of the PRC's government, the truth is that Tik-Tok is doing nothing that American companies aren't already doing.
They collect and store user data, Facebook et al collects and stores user data.
Tik-Tok pushes certain beliefs upon users, YouTube pushes beliefs on users.
Etc...
None of these tech giants should be collecting, storing, and selling user data. Police departments often don't even bother trying to get a warrant. It's easier and faster just to buy the information (such as location data) from a data broker.