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BumRushDaShow

(145,062 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:14 AM Yesterday

"I didn't do anything wrong": Biden says he has "no contemplation" of pardoning himself

Source: Salon

Published January 10, 2025 8:26PM (EST)


President Joe Biden isn't sweating persistent MAGAworld threats of persecution. When asked on Friday if he would use his presidential pardon power to preemptively pardon himself, Biden seemed baffled. "Well, what would I pardon myself for?" Biden asked. "No, I have no contemplation of pardoning myself for anything. I didn’t do anything wrong."

The question came amid a blitz of pardons and commutations from Biden. The president pardoned his son, Hunter Biden, feeling that ongoing prosecutions on tax and gun charges were political (and would be ramped up under the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump).

"From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department’s decision-making, and I kept my word even as I have watched my son being selectively, and unfairly, prosecuted," President Biden wrote in a statement about his pardon of Hunter.

"Without aggravating factors like use in a crime, multiple purchases, or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser, people are almost never brought to trial on felony charges solely for how they filled out a gun form... It is clear that Hunter was treated differently." President Biden said the continued cases against his son were an attempt to punish him led by his political opposition.

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2025/01/10/i-didnt-do-anything-wrong-biden-says-he-has-no-contemplation-of-pardoning-himself/



Remember that President Joe Biden is a lawyer (and was a practicing lawyer before he ran for elected office).

But worse, the media have welcomed and coddled a CONVICTED FELON to the White House.
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"I didn't do anything wrong": Biden says he has "no contemplation" of pardoning himself (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
The media have fallen down on the job so much, that half the country believes that Joe Biden takes bribes Walleye Yesterday #1
We-the people are really in trouble when riversedge Yesterday #4
He should pardon himself anyway. Orange Anus will pardon himself for "any and all acts" before he leaves office. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #2
If something does come up, President Biden can always say he mentally pardoned himself. n/t Hugin Yesterday #3
ypu know that would only work for one person rampartd Yesterday #7
The legalities are untested marshall Yesterday #5
Well for your latter example BumRushDaShow Yesterday #6
Nixon's pardon acknowledged guilt marshall 20 hrs ago #10
Nixon never released any statements of contrition BumRushDaShow 20 hrs ago #11
The rabid GQP in the House is going to moniss Yesterday #8
stalin's great purge Marthe48 Yesterday #9

Walleye

(36,714 posts)
1. The media have fallen down on the job so much, that half the country believes that Joe Biden takes bribes
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 09:19 AM
Yesterday

riversedge

(73,680 posts)
4. We-the people are really in trouble when
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:01 AM
Yesterday

it appears--per the poll at least that Biden is leaving office LESS popular than Trump.




Jan. 10, 2025
Biden Leaves Office Less Popular Than Trump After January 6

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/biden-approval-rating-trump.html


For a good portion of the 2024 general-election contest, the big choice for voters was between a very old but very normal Democrat with a questionable record on inflation and immigration, and a somewhat younger but erratic Republican who never accepted his 2020 defeat and tried to overturn it with the help of a mob that assaulted the U.S. Capitol. Partisans on both sides thought the choice was pretty easy to make, but in the end, the voters who decided this thing broke toward Donald Trump in an implicit acceptance of his conduct on January 6, 2021.

There were some other things going on in the crucial days of the campaign, ranging from varying reactions to Kamala Harris’s style and substance to rosy if ahistorical memories of what life was like during the pre-insurrectionary moments of the Trump administration. But in the end, a return to Trump seemed better to a small but crucial slice of the population than a continuation of Democratic rule.

That’s certainly what the election results, close as they were, appear to suggest, and it looks like we’ll have a secondary verification of that interpretation of events in the final job-approval ratings of the 46th president, as opposed to the 45th. At the absolute nadir of his tenure, in the days between January 6 and Joe Biden’s inauguration on January 20, 2021, Donald Trump’s job approval ratings dropped from 42.4 percent to 38.4 percent, according to the FiveThirtyEight averages. At present, Biden’s job-approval rating according to the same averages is 37.1 percent; it has been below 38 percent since November 26. The odds of a preinaugural rebound don’t look good.

Sometimes, personal favorability numbers look significantly different than job approval, particularly in a president with poor luck. But that doesn’t seem to be the case with these two men. At the end of January 2021, Trump’s favorability average was 38.8 percent, almost identical to his final job-approval ratings. Now it’s at 47.3 percent, higher than at any point since he left office the first time; by Inauguration Day, his favorability ratio may reach net positive numbers for the first time since regular polling of him began in 2015. Biden’s favorability ratios were at net positive levels throughout 2021, but have regularly deteriorated ever since. His favorability average is now at 38.5 percent, barely above his job-approval ratings..................................................

3Hotdogs

(13,691 posts)
2. He should pardon himself anyway. Orange Anus will pardon himself for "any and all acts" before he leaves office.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:00 AM
Yesterday

A Biden self-pardon may resolve the question before a less favorable Republican court.

Hugin

(34,929 posts)
3. If something does come up, President Biden can always say he mentally pardoned himself. n/t
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:10 AM
Yesterday

rampartd

(1,119 posts)
7. ypu know that would only work for one person
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:53 AM
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and biden ain't it

trump does not care of biden committed a crime or not. something will be ginned up

marshall

(6,681 posts)
5. The legalities are untested
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:04 AM
Yesterday

Whether one can pardon one’s own self is one issue. Another is whether a blanket pardon can be given for uncharged, unidentified, and unknown infractions.

BumRushDaShow

(145,062 posts)
6. Well for your latter example
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:13 AM
Yesterday

The Ford pardon of Nixon apparently fit the description of pardoning for "uncharged, unidentified, and unknown infractions".

(snip)

Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

(snip)

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-4311-granting-pardon-richard-nixon

marshall

(6,681 posts)
10. Nixon's pardon acknowledged guilt
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:55 PM
20 hrs ago

It also require Nixon to release a statement of contrition, and was specifically focused on Watergate. I’m not sure what the imagined transgressions Biden would be acknowledging.

BumRushDaShow

(145,062 posts)
11. Nixon never released any statements of contrition
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 09:17 PM
20 hrs ago
https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2024/08/06/nixon-resigns/

but apparently Ford supposedly justified the pardon based on a then-almost-60 year old SCOTUS ruling related to pardons and their "implication" - https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-nixon-pardon-in-retrospect

I remember watching Nixon's resignation address on TV. It happened about a month after my dad died.

moniss

(6,243 posts)
8. The rabid GQP in the House is going to
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:04 PM
Yesterday

be throwing subpoenas at him like a paper storm blew in. They will do anything to get a "contempt of Congress" or "lying to Congress" meme going and pass it along to the incoming fascist DOJ.

Marthe48

(19,581 posts)
9. stalin's great purge
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:47 PM
Yesterday

When a new chimp siezes power of a chimp colony, he ousts all the young males, kills all the offspring of the last leader and mates with every female to ensure the survival of his genes. So every despot from time out of mind uses the same game plan. Avoiding that outcome was what made the U.S.A. unique. Until a pos traitor destroyed it.

Better pardon every registered Democrat in the U.S. Issue an executive order that every registered Democrat working in public service has a lifetime position and can't be fired.Hell, make it cover every currently employed public servant.

Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.





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