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riversedge

(74,764 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 11:01 PM Jan 10

Hundreds of California prison firefighters join battle against Los Angeles wildfires

Source: calmatters.org



Avatar photo by Cayla Mihalovich January 10, 2025


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About 800 incarcerated firefighters are battling the unprecedented fires raging across Southern California, according to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. They join thousands of firefighting and emergency personnel who have been dispatched to respond to multiple fires throughout the Los Angeles area.
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Over 1,800 incarcerated firefighters live year-round in minimum-security conservation camps, also known as “fire camps,” located across 25 counties in California, according to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. Those numbers have dwindled in recent years due to a declining prison population.

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Over the course of three fire seasons, Princess Griffen fought more than 30 fires. The 32-year-old, formerly incarcerated firefighter was based at the Rainbow Conservation Camp, which has since closed, when the Woolsey Fire in Malibu broke out in November 2018.

“At camp, when it got windy, we would sleep with our boots on,” she said. She and her crew of 14 were deployed for two weeks. “It felt like you were doing something that mattered instead of rotting away in a cell,” she said................................

Read more: https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/01/prison-firefighters-la-fires/

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Hundreds of California prison firefighters join battle against Los Angeles wildfires (Original Post) riversedge Jan 10 OP
I think it is a good thing and kudos to these prisoners. Irish_Dem Jan 10 #1
I agree with you. riversedge Jan 11 #5
All hands on deck situation Deuxcents Jan 11 #2
Good for them! 👍 nt Raine Jan 11 #3
Slave Labor JustAnotherGen Jan 11 #4
No, it is not, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 11 #6
No it's not disrespectful JustAnotherGen Jan 11 #7
What part of it being voluntary don't you understand? MarineCombatEngineer Jan 11 #8
My BIL Rebl2 Jan 11 #9
A good friend of mine is a retired BLM wildland firefighter MarineCombatEngineer Jan 11 #10
Here you go JustAnotherGen Jan 11 #11
I don't see where race is mentioned Skittles Jan 12 #12
Let's see here, I read the whole article 3 times just to make sure MarineCombatEngineer Jan 12 #13
NOTHING about race in this. 👎 nt Raine Jan 13 #14

Irish_Dem

(67,108 posts)
1. I think it is a good thing and kudos to these prisoners.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 11:40 PM
Jan 10

One of the prisoners said: “It felt like you were doing something that mattered instead of rotting away in a cell."

It helps with their self esteem, confidence and gives them job experience and good references in the future.
The experience will impress others, including employers.

They are doing really important work, risking their lives for the citizens of California.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,017 posts)
6. No, it is not,
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:15 AM
Jan 11

it's all voluntary and gives those inmates a valuable job skill when they're released.
These inmate firefighters can quit at any time they want so don't call it slave labor, that's disrespectful towards those putting their lives on the line to help their fellow humans.

JustAnotherGen

(34,629 posts)
7. No it's not disrespectful
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jan 11

How much are they getting paid?

And - of course I'm sure you would be okay with them working in a daycare, bank, or Fed Gov when they are released. Right?

I would. I work for a company that supplies valves for patriot missiles. These folks should no longer be barred from working in Accounting. They should also be eligible for a Customs Broker's License.

Watch - in a few years we'll hear how none of these folks have been able to obtain gainful employment with a twist of "health issues" from fighting these fires.

America will never stop America'ing.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,017 posts)
8. What part of it being voluntary don't you understand?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:56 AM
Jan 11

They're at the fire camps because they want to be there, not because they're forced to be there and many released inmate firefighters go on to be wildland firefighters with either state or federal firefighting organizations.

Slave labor would be if they were forced to fight these fires against their will, so it is demeaning and disrespectful to call it slave labor.

Rebl2

(15,994 posts)
9. My BIL
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jan 11

worked as a firefighter for CalFire for many years in northern CA. At some point he became a captain and the last three years he worked he was in charge of some of the firefighters that were prisoners. No prisoners were forced to become a firefighter.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,017 posts)
10. A good friend of mine is a retired BLM wildland firefighter
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 12:24 PM
Jan 11

and he's told me that the inmate firefighters he worked alongside of were some of the best he'd ever seen.

JustAnotherGen

(34,629 posts)
11. Here you go
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 09:00 PM
Jan 11

Slavery By Any Other Name - Douglas Blackmon.

The 13th - Ava Duvernay on Netflix if you aren't a reader.


Are you aware of the injustice system for Black Americans in AmeriKKKa?


I'm not in the sunken place, I know how this works, and I know that they are getting free labor from Black Women & Men.

Dollars to donuts they shouldn't be imprisoned in the first place. But - AmeriKKKa will always AmeriKKKa.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,017 posts)
13. Let's see here, I read the whole article 3 times just to make sure
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:46 AM
Jan 12

I didn't miss anything and Lo and Behold, there is no mention of race anywhere in there, so are you talking about?

Your post makes zero sense in relation to the thread, but I guess some just have to toss the race card.

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