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BumRushDaShow

(145,066 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:07 PM Monday

'Another Bloodbath' Would Have Happened If Harris Had Won, Democratic Senator Says

Source: Huff Post

Jan 6, 2025, 02:53 PM EST | Updated an hour ago


The attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, may be receding into history, but on its fourth anniversary Monday, Democrats tried to make sure no one forgets it. On the same day a joint session of Congress formally certified President-elect Donald Trump’s 2024 election victory, many Democrats on social media and in person marked the day in somber and sometimes bitter terms.

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) said the expected quiet at the U.S. Capitol Monday, under heavy security measures as well as a blanket of overnight snow, should not be taken for granted.

“It’s because today in America, tragically, only one party respects elections. The other party uses and justifies violence to keep power,” he said in a post. “Had Harris won, today likely would have been another bloodbath.” Another Connecticut lawmaker, Democratic Rep. Jim Himes, echoed Murphy.

“I’m feeling angry about the fact that this is going to be strawberry ice cream and puppies because Trump won, and if Trump had lost we’d be in body armor and protected by the 82nd Airborne right now,” Himes told HuffPost. “And that tells you something about the difference between the two parties.”

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/another-jan-6-bloodbath-would-have-happened-if-harris-won-murphy-says_n_677c2136e4b0baeb8f9a3da3

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'Another Bloodbath' Would Have Happened If Harris Had Won, Democratic Senator Says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
IF we have a 2028 election and IF a Dem wins... CousinIT Monday #1
Sorry to say Marthe48 Monday #3
Agreed Evolve Dammit Monday #11
There will be a Night of the Long Knives Bobstandard Monday #20
My suspicion (and I hope I am wrong, but doubt I am)... regnaD kciN Monday #27
Horrifyingly possible Bobstandard Tuesday #40
Then it's into the streets. orangecrush Tuesday #41
Oh we'll have a 2028 election Nasruddin Monday #4
And Putins party keeps winning even without him running for president. LiberalArkie Monday #10
But there's the 2026 election coming right up. calimary Monday #22
That entire party is entirely compromised and corrupted. Initech Monday #30
I disagree. One of the reasons it was so horrible is spooky3 Monday #2
My first thoughts also rurallib Monday #13
The CIC on that day WANTED a bloody & violent uprising. It is what he had expected to see when he tried to get his Ford_Prefect Monday #17
i also agree. It's one thing to be tough when you face police officers who you dramatically outnumber but Wonder Why Monday #25
No worries about a Democrat taking office again, ever. bucolic_frolic Monday #5
BS. paleotn Monday #7
But their 2021 storm won in 2024. bucolic_frolic Monday #9
Damn close. Evolve Dammit Monday #12
Laws don't matter if noone's willing to enforce them DSandra Tuesday #33
Yup. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #38
Yeah, THEIR blood. Because our guy is in the White House this time. paleotn Monday #6
Well.... sagetea Monday #8
Maybe just maybe we are at that point? Evolve Dammit Monday #14
Think DU is ready to talk about this? ancianita Monday #23
We should be. This is uncharted territory Evolve Dammit Tuesday #37
I disagree. LilyBelle Monday #15
Whew! Dodged that bullet, eh? Oopsie Daisy Monday #16
What a load of crap. William769 Monday #18
+1 Auggie Tuesday #39
Should've shot all those traitors down in 2020 Ahpook Monday #19
Himes and Murphy are really great guys as is all our reps (mine is Rosa deLauro, a great gal). CTyankee Monday #21
guess we'll find out once dems win congress runnergirl Monday #24
Consider that a lot can happen in the next two years. ancianita Monday #26
Sen. Chris Murphy likens the US as a third world country subject to bloody coups like Iraq, Chile, or Syria. C0RI0LANUS Monday #28
Very typical and appropriate picture of TSF you chose there! Really illustrates his character. raccoon Tuesday #34
Thank you, raccoon. Look at America-- we can't even get a dignified-looking putschist like the Shah! C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #35
Nope. Bluethroughu Monday #29
No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Tuesday #31
i wonder mrchris Tuesday #32
Had Harris won, today likely would have been another bloodbath." Ray Bruns Tuesday #36

Marthe48

(19,582 posts)
3. Sorry to say
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:21 PM
Monday

We're going to have bloodbaths between now and 2028, even if they are somewhere beside the U.S. Capitol. I don't see any better days ahead for people on American soil.

Bobstandard

(1,736 posts)
20. There will be a Night of the Long Knives
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:20 PM
Monday

Despite the quiet surrender of most Democrats in the Congress, Trump will have his Night of the Long Knives. It might not be abductions and executions, as it was when Hitler consolidated power, but it will come. With luck it will just be in the form of using the “justice” system to meet out punishment. You know, charge everybody with everything. Use the courts to tie up and bankrupt Schiff, Pelosi, and every other outspoken Dem.

It’s said that a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich (Merrick Garland not withstanding). I look for spurious felony charges that will allow the Rethugs to arrest and arraign their enemies. I wonder how many House Dems and other prominent Democrats see jail time in their futures? You can be sure they won’t get the kid glove treatment Trump got when he was arrested and mug shorted.

Yes, the Night of the Long Knives is coming. We just don’t know exactly what it will look like yet.

regnaD kciN

(26,665 posts)
27. My suspicion (and I hope I am wrong, but doubt I am)...
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 09:12 PM
Monday

...is that the Trump DoJ will, as promised, "investigate" the 2020 election and, without evidence, declare that Trump clearly won that election. That will be the leadoff to the arrests and imprisonment on treason charges of everyone from Biden and Harris to every Democratic governor, secretary of state, county executive, mayor, and elections supervisor in states won by Democrats. Since there will be no evidence whatsoever to sustain those charges, they'll make sure to get the cases before MAGA judges who will deny bail on the grounds of them all being flight risks, and order them held until trials that will never take place. Eventually, they'll all die in prison.

Nasruddin

(887 posts)
4. Oh we'll have a 2028 election
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:23 PM
Monday

Rulers love free and fair elections. For instance, in Syria in 2021, Bashar al-Assad won with 95% of the vote.
There were very few improper votes (not enough to swing the result, anyway).

calimary

(84,798 posts)
22. But there's the 2026 election coming right up.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:42 PM
Monday

We’ll have a chance to make gains in the House and Senate, and change the calculus. Might even have some bright spots at the state and municipal level, too.

I’d rather look on the bright side. Remember: things CHANGE.

And we start building that change RIGHT NOW!!!

Initech

(102,775 posts)
30. That entire party is entirely compromised and corrupted.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 11:27 PM
Monday

That's what happens when one side is brainwashed by propaganda for 50+ years and thinks they are entitled to absolute power.

spooky3

(36,554 posts)
2. I disagree. One of the reasons it was so horrible is
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:19 PM
Monday

That Trump blocked the National Guard from coming in to help and Capitol security was told not to fire their guns, among other things. Biden would have ensured protection was in place.

Surely more boots on the ground would have put down the insurrection very swiftly.

rurallib

(63,321 posts)
13. My first thoughts also
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:16 PM
Monday

Maybe the biggest reason it got so bad is that the Commander-in-chief refused to act as a CIC

Ford_Prefect

(8,230 posts)
17. The CIC on that day WANTED a bloody & violent uprising. It is what he had expected to see when he tried to get his
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:54 PM
Monday

driver and security detail to take him to the Capitol that day.

He expected and knew there would be armed people in the crowds. He knew because he'd been told they were there by the coup facilitators in the "war room". He knew because that is what he'd told them to do at the rally and online, what his warm up speakers had told them to do and his mouthpieces on FOX and the other stations had said.. It was what the MAGA faithful been told to do every day since before the election he lost.

Wonder Why

(4,807 posts)
25. i also agree. It's one thing to be tough when you face police officers who you dramatically outnumber but
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:53 PM
Monday

another when you face lots of trained soldiers who face you with bayonets and know how to use them to inflict pain.

bucolic_frolic

(47,899 posts)
5. No worries about a Democrat taking office again, ever.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:27 PM
Monday

Republicans know how to win. They win, or they overturn the results if they don't and take office by storm. They're immune.

DSandra

(1,306 posts)
33. Laws don't matter if noone's willing to enforce them
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 03:26 AM
Tuesday

And rules don't matter if a bully can just threaten and carry out violence against everyone else and intimidate them into submission.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,793 posts)
38. Yup.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:17 AM
Tuesday

The current state of justice and equality in this country at the moment make it very difficult to keep these things in sight. Especially when the ones who are being unjust and inequitable are the ones who are in power and were put there by the voters.

It is as if there are two justice systems. And, that it is by design. And that it will never change because the powers that be won't ever let it.

paleotn

(19,693 posts)
6. Yeah, THEIR blood. Because our guy is in the White House this time.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:28 PM
Monday

Honestly, doing a Kent State on their ignorant, toothless asses wouldn't disturb my sleep one bit.

sagetea

(1,453 posts)
8. Well....
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:33 PM
Monday

Duh! Democrats are a lot of things but stupid ain't one of them. I would rather had lost 'blood' than have him in the Whitehouse.

sage

LilyBelle

(23 posts)
15. I disagree.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:52 PM
Monday

It would have been handled correctly and the goons would not have been coddled. I also imagine some pro-democracy folks would have shown up to counter them.

William769

(56,098 posts)
18. What a load of crap.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:01 PM
Monday

The Biden Administration would have had it under control. And if you do't believe that, then why are you here?

Ahpook

(2,765 posts)
19. Should've shot all those traitors down in 2020
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:03 PM
Monday

We keep playing footsie with them and here we are.

Another case of shoulda, woulda, coulda in America which has obviously turned us in a bad way.

CTyankee

(65,429 posts)
21. Himes and Murphy are really great guys as is all our reps (mine is Rosa deLauro, a great gal).
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:23 PM
Monday

They are not alarmists so this is disturbing to hear from them. I guess I'm living in my nice New Haven bubble and they are getting a bad vibe down in D.C.

runnergirl

(26 posts)
24. guess we'll find out once dems win congress
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 08:50 PM
Monday

and they have to win it just to end this nightmare's nightmare, and take us back to the regular nightmare

C0RI0LANUS

(2,256 posts)
28. Sen. Chris Murphy likens the US as a third world country subject to bloody coups like Iraq, Chile, or Syria.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:02 PM
Monday














Thanks to Republicans, Sen. Murphy's correct.


raccoon

(31,525 posts)
34. Very typical and appropriate picture of TSF you chose there! Really illustrates his character.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 05:22 AM
Tuesday

C0RI0LANUS

(2,256 posts)
35. Thank you, raccoon. Look at America-- we can't even get a dignified-looking putschist like the Shah!
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 05:28 AM
Tuesday

Ray Bruns

(4,781 posts)
36. Had Harris won, today likely would have been another bloodbath."
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 05:55 AM
Tuesday

So be it. It would have been a maga bloodbath though

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