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BumRushDaShow

(144,168 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:10 PM Saturday

Trump and allies are waging campaign against media to stifle dissent - experts

Source: The Guardian

Sat 21 Dec 2024 08.00 EST


Donald Trump and his allies have started to wage a campaign against media organisations in the US that are critical of the president-elect by launching lawsuits that media experts warn are designed to stifle dissent and potentially put them out of business.

The tactic appears to be to aggressively pursue legal action against news organisations – which Trump has long dubbed “enemies of the people” – by asking for often hefty sums in damages. The cases are launched even if the odds of success sometimes appear long, because even an unsuccessful court action can be expensive for a cash-strapped media company and act as a deterrent.

“The recent spate of lawsuits that he has filed, and his public threat to ‘straighten out the press’, do seem to signal an increased effort by Trump and his allies to go after the press through lawsuits,” said Anna Diakun, staff attorney and managing attorney, fellowship program, for the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.

Last week alone saw several developments that deeply worry defenders of press freedom in the US. Trump sued Iowa pollster J Ann Selzer and the Des Moines Register newspaper for alleged “brazen election interference” in a civil suit that shocked free speech defenders. One advocate said the suit was potentially “the most appalling example” of Trump’s efforts to weaponize courts against opponents.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/21/trump-media-assault-silence-criticism

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Trump and allies are waging campaign against media to stifle dissent - experts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Saturday OP
Don't tell the truth about me BOSSHOG Saturday #1
We'll find out pretty quickly with media has balls and those that do not. NotHardly Sunday #39
"...designed to stifle dissent and potentially put them out of business." J_William_Ryan Saturday #2
I was gonna say DENVERPOPS Sunday #13
"From day one...." NotHardly Sunday #18
The USA media is all in with the it.... Lovie777 Saturday #3
The MSM self-desisted 20 fucking years ago. Magoo48 Sunday #23
Self- what?? ificandream Sunday #25
What's wrong with self-desisted? Magoo48 Sunday #30
Self-desisted isn't a word, that's what. ificandream Sunday #31
I like self-desisted. This is American English we speak. I can make up words if I want. Magoo48 Sunday #34
No. ificandream Sunday #35
A bit of a rude grammarsnob too are we? Magoo48 Sunday #36
From my career in the media. So, yes. ificandream Sunday #38
Good effing grief .... they definitely are not. ificandream Sunday #24
They can't stifle, control, or intimidate non-American corporate media no_hypocrisy Saturday #4
they'll try. there can be selective economic and access actions against any outlets. erronis Saturday #6
So counter sue the c...p out of them. mwmisses4289 Saturday #5
We'll just do the Gish Gallup of dissent like no one has ever seen before, frankly.* RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Saturday #7
"Freedom of the Press? Who needs that?" - Trump's cult, probably sakabatou Saturday #8
That's Trump's biggest enemy. ificandream Sunday #26
Aren't SLAPP suits illegal? JoseBalow Saturday #9
Commercial Media Roy Rolling Saturday #10
No, they're not slaves. Not even close. ificandream Sunday #27
If Trump is filing frivolous lawsuits, he should be responsible for legal fees. JohnnyRingo Saturday #11
Trump is the quintesssential vexatious litigant. Bo Zarts Sunday #20
We cannot let trump be successful at controlling the media. oldmanlynn Sunday #12
For the most part DENVERPOPS Sunday #14
Who told you that? The answer is they don't. ificandream Sunday #28
The billionaire owners already control it. Manipulated, censored, and invented on command. Magoo48 Sunday #32
And after they put all that effort into sane washing him too! perdita9 Sunday #15
The greatest threat to the world, hate. twodogsbarking Sunday #16
Which makes us 'Public Enemy Number One' I am afraid. OldBaldy1701E Monday #40
It is often disguised to be somehing else. Peace to you. twodogsbarking Monday #42
Counter sue with damages.... Dem4life1970 Sunday #17
Here are two wonderful books to understand what the maga are doing and have been doing since Nixon........... turbinetree Sunday #19
The WaPo has hobbled it's comments tonekat Sunday #21
HE, and the republican enablers, ARE THE MEDIA'S FAULT! BComplex Sunday #22
Dictator 101. Buckle up. Evolve Dammit Sunday #29
No Free Press? Kid Berwyn Sunday #33
"...and potentially put them out of business." Unladen Swallow Sunday #37
If/when he loses these suits for failure to prove loss, harm, or damage, can't he be made to pay the defense's costs? ancianita Monday #41

J_William_Ryan

(2,259 posts)
2. "...designed to stifle dissent and potentially put them out of business."
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:30 PM
Saturday

Classic tactic of the fascist right.

DENVERPOPS

(10,143 posts)
13. I was gonna say
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:35 AM
Sunday

Thinks he is already president, Thinks he is already a Tyrant.......

Truly a Frankenstein's Monster, Created by the Republican Politicians, and now un-controlable and answering to no one.....

NotHardly

(1,363 posts)
18. "From day one...."
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:59 AM
Sunday

...this is the result of a corrupted Supreme Court and billionaire boys club.

Magoo48

(5,534 posts)
30. What's wrong with self-desisted?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:38 PM
Sunday

Self censored? They shitcanned their fucking journalists, hired windup, talking heads who think in depth is splashing in the kiddy pool?

Magoo48

(5,534 posts)
34. I like self-desisted. This is American English we speak. I can make up words if I want.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:46 PM
Sunday

Did you understand what I meant?

ificandream

(10,730 posts)
35. No.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:56 PM
Sunday

And I would say a lot of Americans don't either. But hey ... make arguments no one can understand.

ificandream

(10,730 posts)
24. Good effing grief .... they definitely are not.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:18 PM
Sunday

Despite the ludicrous ABC settlement, the media is on pins and needles over what might happen when he gets sworn in. Trump is trying to prevent any kind of Woodward-Bernstein stories while he's in office. I only hope they tell him to go f*** himself.

no_hypocrisy

(49,182 posts)
4. They can't stifle, control, or intimidate non-American corporate media
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:36 PM
Saturday

and independent podcasts.

You'll have defections to BBC, The Guardian, The Independent, Le Monde, Der Spiegel, and various Youtube podcasts.

To paraphrase Theodore Roosevelt, "I can either control the media or I can run the country. I can't possibly do both."

erronis

(17,156 posts)
6. they'll try. there can be selective economic and access actions against any outlets.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:25 PM
Saturday

Frivolous lawsuits anywhere across the globe. Deny access to outlets that have ever voiced any criticisms.

If putin/musk are in charge, bodily damage to reporters and organizations.

7. We'll just do the Gish Gallup of dissent like no one has ever seen before, frankly.*
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:04 PM
Saturday

So much dissent, his fucking head will spin.

*to borrow one of his favorite words!

ificandream

(10,730 posts)
26. That's Trump's biggest enemy.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:20 PM
Sunday

Gotta have their guns, but can't let the country have its press.

Roy Rolling

(7,206 posts)
10. Commercial Media
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:30 PM
Saturday

Commercial media are slaves to big money and advertisers. It’s always been that way, nothing new.

What’s new is commercial media companies siding with big money to stifle first amendment rights that will eventually kill themselves.

Trump U. Graduates, no doubt.

ificandream

(10,730 posts)
27. No, they're not slaves. Not even close.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:23 PM
Sunday

Yeah, the media has economic issues. And Trump is trying to take advantage of that. But there's enough of a resistance out there that it can't and won't be entirely successful. There will be Freedom Fighters who will battle him. And we the people need to be behind them. Unless people want to see their rights completely taken away.

JohnnyRingo

(19,416 posts)
11. If Trump is filing frivolous lawsuits, he should be responsible for legal fees.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:50 PM
Saturday

He should have to reimburse the lawyers the media companies had to hire. I actually thought that's how it works.

Bo Zarts

(25,705 posts)
20. Trump is the quintesssential vexatious litigant.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:10 PM
Sunday

"Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender.

A single action, even a frivolous one, is usually not enough to raise a litigant to the level of being declared vexatious. Rather, a pattern of frivolous legal actions is typically required to rise to the level of vexatious.. " Wikipedia

Repeated and severe instances by a single lawyer or firm can result in eventual disbarment.

oldmanlynn

(505 posts)
12. We cannot let trump be successful at controlling the media.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:09 AM
Sunday

When that happens our country is done. Full on Russian style dictatorship.

I hope media knows their role in democracy and i hope we have billionaires looking to help democracy.

DENVERPOPS

(10,143 posts)
14. For the most part
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:38 AM
Sunday

The Pro-Republican Corporations and Republican Oligarchs ALREADY OWN/OPERATE the majority of the U.S. Media........

ificandream

(10,730 posts)
28. Who told you that? The answer is they don't.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:26 PM
Sunday

The papers that social media disparages .... like the NY Times and WashPost ... are our keys to freedom. Saying the media is completely non-functional is saying freedom is dead. And it's not ... not yet unless we let it die.

Magoo48

(5,534 posts)
32. The billionaire owners already control it. Manipulated, censored, and invented on command.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 04:42 PM
Sunday

perdita9

(1,185 posts)
15. And after they put all that effort into sane washing him too!
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:59 AM
Sunday

Legacy media sowed the seeds of its own destruction.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,601 posts)
40. Which makes us 'Public Enemy Number One' I am afraid.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 06:34 AM
Monday

No one employs hate more that the US. We hate anything that is not like us and that is not based in greedy capitalism. Hell, there are successful industries that are solely based on hate. They thrive here.

Being magnanimous is seen as a fault here (unless it gains one something). Being compassionate and understanding is also something seen as 'weak'. Hate seems to be the one thing we can all agree on (either as a useful tool or a destructive force, we still agree that it is something to keep in our society).

Freaking sad, isn't it?

Dem4life1970

(541 posts)
17. Counter sue with damages....
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:56 AM
Sunday

Also, civil suits brought by the people. Individual states attorney generals should get involved if need be.

They are willing to let elementary school children fill up cemeteries all over the US to defend their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment and we are not willing to go to the mat to defend the first amendment? It is FIRST for a reason!

turbinetree

(25,436 posts)
19. Here are two wonderful books to understand what the maga are doing and have been doing since Nixon...........
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:58 AM
Sunday

Ministry of Truth
Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past
By Steve Benen


and

The Unraveling
Reflections on Politics without Ethics and Democracy in Crisis
Bob Bauer - Foreword by Jon Meacham

tonekat

(2,051 posts)
21. The WaPo has hobbled it's comments
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:19 PM
Sunday

With a silly AI program that doesn't allow likes.

And the NYT often doesn't allow comments on the most political stories, so it's creeping in, U.S. media is only too happy to fold.

BComplex

(9,153 posts)
22. HE, and the republican enablers, ARE THE MEDIA'S FAULT!
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:14 PM
Sunday

They could seriously gang up on him LIKE THEY DO THE DEMOCRATS, and stop this nonsense. The problem is, the media IS trump...the owners/management are his supporters. They're trying to push another one off on the public as if they're the VICTIMS. They aren't. The media are the perps.

Unladen Swallow

(23 posts)
37. "...and potentially put them out of business."
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 05:35 PM
Sunday

I fully support the complete and total annihilation of the corporate media machine in this country, regardless of who may ultimately be responsible for the miracle.

Then again, I abhor the litigious nature of our "sue everyone for everything" culture.

ancianita

(38,871 posts)
41. If/when he loses these suits for failure to prove loss, harm, or damage, can't he be made to pay the defense's costs?
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 08:12 AM
Monday
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