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BumRushDaShow

(148,663 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:07 PM Dec 20

MSNBC Reportedly Tells Two More Anchors To Take Pay Cuts Amid Ratings Tank

Source: Huff Post

Dec 20, 2024, 11:33 AM EST | Updated 4 hours ago


MSNBC is negotiating pay cuts with night anchors Joy Reid and Stephanie Ruhle as the cable channel nosedives in the ratings after the election, according to a report.

Rachel Maddow, arguably the star of the network, previously agreed to pare down her $30 million salary, it was reported. The Ankler’s report this week about Reid and Ruhle negotiating pay cuts should come as no surprise.

Parent company Comcast generated concern over MSNBC’s future by announcing a plan to spin off MSNBC and some other NBCUniversal properties into a new company.

But perhaps more urgent is the station’s plummeting viewership. Its prime-time audience tanked 55% from Nov. 4 through Dec. 15, according to Nielsen ratings cited by The Wrap. (CNN, a mainstream counterpart, experienced a 46.7% drop.)

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joy-reid-stephanie-ruhle-pay-cut-msnbc_n_67655820e4b09e10a435e039

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MSNBC Reportedly Tells Two More Anchors To Take Pay Cuts Amid Ratings Tank (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 20 OP
maybe their audience doesnt like see trump 24/7 we could do that on fox I stopped watching after the msongs Dec 20 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 20 #3
I fully expect to see Biden 24/7 after 1/20 LivingInASociety Dec 20 #13
seeing his giant orange head in my living room just isn't an option any more...for mental health reasons prodigitalson Dec 21 #20
Nail head meets hammer! Chipper Chat Dec 22 #52
Is there some reason that they are all women anchors? No male anchors treated this way? CTyankee Dec 20 #2
Well, the bosses and execs are all male FakeNoose Dec 20 #14
Andrea Mitchell is retiring anyway. milestogo Dec 21 #43
Way past Rebl2 Dec 22 #55
Are you asking, "Why are only women anchors mentioned, not any males?" or Igel Dec 21 #19
I wish I had the time back I spent reading this teenager journal entry. jvill Dec 21 #36
I'm a little perplexed BOSSHOG Dec 20 #4
Well, if they fired Joe & Mika, that would free up a hunk of cash Joinfortmill Dec 20 #5
That was my first thought. Why cut prime time anchors pay when you can just get rid of Morning Joe? Galraedia Dec 21 #18
But none... 2naSalit Dec 20 #6
Now, now. The men have to do all the heavy news. All the women have are the cooking, and fashion shows... LiberalArkie Dec 20 #7
Maybe their focusing on the timeslots with the fewest number of overall viewers? cstanleytech Dec 21 #23
Rachel's is their most viewed show. Nt spooky3 Dec 21 #27
Is or was? cstanleytech Dec 21 #29
I haven't seen any data showing hers is no longer the highest rated msnbc show. Nt spooky3 Dec 21 #37
The network might have though so it could be the reason. cstanleytech Dec 21 #38
All of msnbc's ratings tanked after the election, per spooky3 Dec 21 #39
I have a BETTER idea! Mike Nelson Dec 20 #8
Good idea. yellow dahlia Dec 20 #10
Love Joy but I like Ali and Joy having their yorkster Dec 21 #35
Democrats are despondent. mzmolly Dec 20 #9
But ONLY and I do mean ONLY Chipper Chat Dec 20 #11
Yes. mzmolly Dec 20 #16
And that whiney voice! tonekat Dec 22 #53
No "we" will not go back LizfromRI Dec 21 #26
Well, you do what's best for you. mzmolly Dec 21 #44
Get rid of Katy Tur. Get rid of Steve Kornacki. LiberalFighter Dec 20 #12
She won't be an anchor but will do other projects - a special spooky3 Dec 21 #28
Amen! Fuck Kornacki LSparkle Dec 21 #33
Him and his khakis are turning up on sports shows, now. Paladin Dec 21 #34
Yes, Tur and Mitchell have to go. mzmolly Dec 21 #45
Get rid of Joe and Mika. Emile Dec 20 #15
no talk of cutting joe and mika's salary, huh? choie Dec 20 #17
Pare the salaries of ALL the so-called anchors and talk show hosts, hire more investigators . . . Journeyman Dec 21 #21
There you go! Sounds good to me. doc03 Dec 21 #40
They could save even more . . . AverageOldGuy Dec 21 #22
Keep Nicole! rainy Dec 21 #24
Keep Nicole. Get rid of Ari Melber. Paladin Dec 21 #25
I was looking up their salaries. ARI melber gets paid chump change. CentralMass Dec 21 #47
Good. (nt) Paladin Dec 21 #48
And adding a missing one BumRushDaShow Dec 22 #50
Ari could add to his paltry income by becoming oasis Dec 22 #54
He's worth about $17 million. CentralMass Dec 22 #57
Here's my idea: Karma13612 Dec 21 #30
Is Derrick Johnson, the CEO, taking a pay cut? GiqueCee Dec 21 #31
I watched only because I had a small amount of hope we would see justice served. Now that it has been Hotler Dec 21 #32
My feelings precisely NJCher Dec 21 #46
Went to the gym yesterday after not being there for weeks. There are twenty TVs mounted on doc03 Dec 21 #41
Just the women? milestogo Dec 21 #42
That's the first thing I noticed too Mike 03 Dec 22 #51
Don't Willie Geist and Stephanie Ruhle also do the Today Show? lapucelle Dec 22 #49
Their Coverage Is Unbelievably Lame - They Make Me Hate My Own Positions DrFunkenstein Dec 22 #56
I'm going to go back to watching MSNBC. They are the closest thing we have to newscasters. Not going to let them go Fox okaawhatever Dec 22 #58

msongs

(70,768 posts)
1. maybe their audience doesnt like see trump 24/7 we could do that on fox I stopped watching after the
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:10 PM
Dec 20

election because all they talked about was trump trump trump.

Response to msongs (Reply #1)

LivingInASociety

(30 posts)
13. I fully expect to see Biden 24/7 after 1/20
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:55 PM
Dec 20

All Biden, all the time. How can I miss you if you won’t go away? Am I right? Is this a thing?

prodigitalson

(3,044 posts)
20. seeing his giant orange head in my living room just isn't an option any more...for mental health reasons
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:55 AM
Dec 21

FakeNoose

(36,837 posts)
14. Well, the bosses and execs are all male
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:06 PM
Dec 20

... so presumably they're the ones making the decisions about who gets docked.

Why isn't Andrea Mitchell being shown the door? Also Morning Joe's ratings tanked, does that mean he's getting fired?

Igel

(36,615 posts)
19. Are you asking, "Why are only women anchors mentioned, not any males?" or
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:33 AM
Dec 21

is it really the case that there are no male anchors affected?

Is there a disproportionate representation or skew between M and F anchors?

Might the F anchors earn disproportionately much?

I don't (know that I) have access to MSNBC so I can honestly say that apart from small excerpts posted here for the various hosts, I've never seen them and honestly don't know what the MSNBC lineup is for talk shows.

(Still, $30 million/year for being a talk-show host? I wouldn't know what to do with $1M/year. Sure, I could find a use for it for the first year--nicer house or at least a nicer neighborhood, hybrid car, upgrade instruments, but otherwise ...? I assume that host has never said, "Wait, how much money is that guy raking in each year? Nobody needs that kind of money!" that wasn't a punch line.)

BOSSHOG

(41,406 posts)
4. I'm a little perplexed
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:38 PM
Dec 20

Wouldn’t viewership go down after a years worth of trump and election intrigue? Which very quickly came to an end. Election fatigue? Stepping back, taking a break?

I didn’t see listed the boss of MSNBC taking a pay cut.

Galraedia

(5,264 posts)
18. That was my first thought. Why cut prime time anchors pay when you can just get rid of Morning Joe?
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:25 AM
Dec 21

LiberalArkie

(17,569 posts)
7. Now, now. The men have to do all the heavy news. All the women have are the cooking, and fashion shows...
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:51 PM
Dec 20

in the 1950's TV

cstanleytech

(27,471 posts)
38. The network might have though so it could be the reason.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:45 AM
Dec 21

I would hope though that she would have also made arrangements so that if the ratings increased again her pay would go right back up immediately.

spooky3

(37,137 posts)
39. All of msnbc's ratings tanked after the election, per
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:52 AM
Dec 21

Multiple reports. What some people are asking here is whether women are being treated equitably—if all ratings dropped by similar amounts, then it shouldn’t be only the female anchors who are pressured to give up salary. Without the ratings data, it’s wrong to single out Rachel.

Mike Nelson

(10,501 posts)
8. I have a BETTER idea!
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:55 PM
Dec 20

... excuse Joe and Mika (and Willie)... then move Joy Reid earlier as the host of Morning Joy! Add Velshi as her co-host!


mzmolly

(52,002 posts)
9. Democrats are despondent.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 09:55 PM
Dec 20

We will tune back in once we come to terms with this disaster of an election and have a fight in us, again.

Chipper Chat

(10,230 posts)
11. But ONLY and I do mean ONLY
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:43 PM
Dec 20

If they quit their obsession with Orange Motherfucker. Especially showing his ugly mug with that shit-eating grin.

LizfromRI

(4 posts)
26. No "we" will not go back
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:51 AM
Dec 21

I turned off msnbc well before the election and I won't go back. I also stopped watching all the late night comedians. My tv is off most of the time and my electric bill has gone down along with my blood pressure.

mzmolly

(52,002 posts)
44. Well, you do what's best for you.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:05 AM
Dec 21

I plan to support media that is out there telling the truth. That’s one way I intend to contribute to democracy while we still have a shred of it.

LSparkle

(11,963 posts)
33. Amen! Fuck Kornacki
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:48 AM
Dec 21

His segments on election night ... just remembering him at that board raises my BP now. His past in Jersey politics during the Christie regime made me suspicious he’s a R troll.

Paladin

(29,692 posts)
34. Him and his khakis are turning up on sports shows, now.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:05 AM
Dec 21

He's fucking up football as well as politics. Lucky us.

mzmolly

(52,002 posts)
45. Yes, Tur and Mitchell have to go.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:07 AM
Dec 21

I don’t have anything against Kornacki, personally. I didn’t like the outcome of the election. He pretty much nailed that.

Journeyman

(15,275 posts)
21. Pare the salaries of ALL the so-called anchors and talk show hosts, hire more investigators . . .
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:03 AM
Dec 21

writers, and analysts. Create more and better content, expand beyond the asinine rehashing of what Mango Mussolini does on any given day, and maybe, just maybe, more people will tune in to be informed.

Amazing how that might work.

AverageOldGuy

(2,493 posts)
22. They could save even more . . .
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:17 AM
Dec 21

. . . by replacing Stephanie Ruhle and Nicole Wallace with old Three Stooges' or Lassy movies or episodes of Gunsmoke. Would be a definite improvement and probably pull more viewers. And ditch Katy Tur and Steve Konracki at the same time.

Paladin

(29,692 posts)
25. Keep Nicole. Get rid of Ari Melber.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:14 AM
Dec 21

Whatever they're paying him is damn sure too much.

CentralMass

(16,047 posts)
47. I was looking up their salaries. ARI melber gets paid chump change.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:29 PM
Dec 21

If the number are right.

Maddow- $30 million
Brezinki - $8 million
Scarborough - $8 million
Geist - 5 $ million
O'Donnell- $4 million
Reid -$3 million
Ruhle- $2 million
Hayes - $1.9 million + an additional $500k performance bonus.
Melber - $162,644

Karma13612

(4,733 posts)
30. Here's my idea:
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:01 AM
Dec 21

Cut Joe and Mika. Expecting fans of a liberal network ( the ONLY one on traditional broadcast media AFAIK) to start their day with REPUBLICAN Lite is DISGRACEFUL.

As far as the rest of the lineup:

I devour Nicole and Lawrence like a delicious rich Caramel-based dessert. I wish Lawrence’s slot was earlier. I don’t have recording ability. We don’t have cable.

I love Rachel. I wish she was on more than once per week.

I can take or leave Ari. I would like him more if he stuck to normal commentary and interviews instead of turning everything into a rap-lyric-pop culture riff. Drives me nuts. As an aside, the network obviously doesn’t allow one of Ari’s frequent guests, John Flannery, to speak freely. I started following John on his YouTube channel and he’s much more vocal and goes in-depth and doesn’t pull his punches. I was shocked at the difference between his guest appearances and his honesty on YouTube.

Joy talks too fast and always seems way OTT.

The others are only on my periphery so you can keep them or ditch them.

Sorted

GiqueCee

(1,906 posts)
31. Is Derrick Johnson, the CEO, taking a pay cut?
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:04 AM
Dec 21

MSNBC's problems are his fault, not the on-air talent's. I'm betting not. Until he has some skin in the game, he should keep his fucking mouth shut.

Hotler

(12,801 posts)
32. I watched only because I had a small amount of hope we would see justice served. Now that it has been
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:47 AM
Dec 21

I see no need to watch only to be reminded every hour, everyday that some people are above the law.

doc03

(37,552 posts)
41. Went to the gym yesterday after not being there for weeks. There are twenty TVs mounted on
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:01 AM
Dec 21

the wall they have eliminated MSNBC. They have two each of CNN and Fox.

Mike 03

(18,211 posts)
51. That's the first thing I noticed too
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 05:42 AM
Dec 22

Why not pay cuts for: Ari Melber, Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell?

Or, better yet, replace Morning Joe with Ali Velshi and Katie Phang?

Then dump Katy Tur altogether. (I've heard Andrea Mitchell is retiring).

lapucelle

(19,816 posts)
49. Don't Willie Geist and Stephanie Ruhle also do the Today Show?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:19 AM
Dec 22

I wonder why Alex Wagner wasn't mentioned.

I appreciate how much time Lawrence O'Donnell gave to Democratic candidates during the 2024 general election. He didn't barrage them with inside baseball questions; he let them get out their message.

Lawrence also stayed far away from the "dump Biden" media groundswell and would broadcast Kamala live at her rallies for 20-30 minutes at a time during his hour.

Unlike many others, Lawrence understood the assignment.



DrFunkenstein

(8,761 posts)
56. Their Coverage Is Unbelievably Lame - They Make Me Hate My Own Positions
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:17 PM
Dec 22

By articulating them in the lamest way imaginable.

okaawhatever

(9,560 posts)
58. I'm going to go back to watching MSNBC. They are the closest thing we have to newscasters. Not going to let them go Fox
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:39 PM
Dec 22

if I can help it.

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