At least 21 countries performed executions in 2022:[8][41][42]

Americas (1 country): United States (18)
Asia (13 countries): Afghanistan (unknown), Bangladesh (4), China (unknown), Iran (596+), Iraq (unknown), Japan (1), Kuwait (7), North Korea (unknown), Saudi Arabia (146), Singapore (11), Syria (unknown), Vietnam (unknown), Yemen (1)
Africa (3 countries): Egypt (unknown), Somalia (19), South Sudan (2)

I would not want to be known by the company the US keeps that are in the execution club.

Precise numbers are unavailable for some countries, so the total number of executions is unknown. Other countries, like Myanmar and Libya, have conducted extrajudicial executions.

To the rest of the common masses of America’s washed and unwashed that violence against the oligarchs is not acceptable.

The message that no new class warfare will not be tolerated. That the only acceptable class warfare that is tolerated is the Rich using policies that eliminate the poor/middle-class.

But then again - go ahead, make him a martyr - and give a name to the policies of the Rich over the rest of us.

I don’t see that happening, particularly if the trial is held in NY.

I read Dan's post as a rhetorical comment aimed at the oligarchs. "Go ahead, make him a martyr..."

It was my first interaction with DU for the day so I might not have been awake enough to grasp that.

I'll self-delete my post.

John Gotti was charged with numerous death penalty eligible charges and the feds didn't pursue it.

Federal statutes:
(b)Within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
Whoever is guilty of murder in the first degree shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for life;

Whoever is guilty of murder in the second degree, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.

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Not many first degree murderers are on death row in the federal system.

I can understand adding federal charges, but it doesn't seem that the federal charges should rise to a capital punishment case and over-ride the state's prohibition against the death penalty.

The feds will take over.

under Federal charges even though Massachusetts is also not a death penalty state.

That does not mean they will pursue it. It rarely is pursued in the federal system. The most recent high profile were Dylann Roof, the Tree of Life mass shooter, McVeigh and Tsarnaev. But they were mass murderers.

They didn't pursue the death penalty for John Gotti. And look at him.

That is the one thing you don't get away with in this country.

Unless you are Elon Musk of course.

That is all.

Plus he would still face state charges in NY.

There are plenty of people murdered because of their jobs. Why is this guy any different? Feds going after him as a terrorist on weapons charges? Then they better start treating murder of everyday people that are murdered just because of their jobs the same as this rich guy.

The feds are charging him with cyberstalking, illegal (homemade and silencer) firearm and murder as a result of stalking.

I doubt if he will get the death penalty. All first degree murder cases are eligible, but it is rarely pursued.

New York State apparently has the case first anyway.
If the state's case doesn't pan out, then the feds will have a shot. They will not even consider whether they will pursue the death penalty until after the state has finished their case. There is a chance that he may be acquitted in the New York case, because the state charges are complicated.

New York is charging him with terrorism because that is the only way they can charge him with first degree murder. Premediated murder in New York is second degree.

Sometimes I wonder if posters aren't trying to make other posters make ridiculous statements. And when I wonder that, I wonder why they'd do such a thing. But I don't wonder for long.

Murder is wrong

almost as if, like most people who commit murders, like they could get away with it. In broad daylight.

John was a man who uplifted people with his music and was beloved by the masses.
That piece of shit CEO Thompson worked at doing the exact opposite!

This is federal first degree murder. All federal first degree murder cases are death penalty eligible. Just because a crime is eligible for the DP doesn't mean that the DP will be pursued.

Death penalty is the maximum punishment.

The case is going to the state of NY first. If he is found guilty of murder by NY, he won't be charged for murder by the feds.

Since the crime occurred in NYC, NYPD detectives began the nationwide manhunt for the alleged killer of the UHC CEO. Therefore, the murder case should be tried by Manhattan County District Attorney Alvin Bragg. But the Empire State does not have capital punishment, so the federal government (through the SDNY AUSA) charged the alleged culprit with a litany of charges that includes death by lethal injection.

From the official AUSA statement:

The US Attorney admits the USG wants to quash the "misguided" message, as well as the messenger.

But other federally convicted murderers have not been executed. According to the US BOP, there are 4,982 prisoners incarcerated for Homicide, Aggravated Assault, and Kidnapping Offenses.



One of the most infamous federal executions was Timothy McVeigh over 20 years ago. Instead of being imprisoned in a Supermax BOP facility for life, American society demanded vengeance for the 168 people killed, including 19 children, and 684 injured in his terrorist attack in Oklahoma City, and so McVeigh was executed.

Today, the elites seem to be demanding vengeance-- not justice-- for killing one of their own, else the Manhattan DA would be trying this open and shut murder case. But since Mangione won't face the death penalty in a NYS court, Uncle Sam intervened.



The charges contained in the Complaint are merely accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

Sources:

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/luigi-mangione-charged-stalking-and-murder-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-and-use

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2024-12/signed_complaint_mangione.pdf

https://manhattanda.org/

All federal first degree murder cases are punishable by death or life in person.

I doubt if they will pursue the death penalty in this case. He's not been indicated for terrorism by the feds. His supporting crimes are: home made weapon, stalking and cyberstalking.

Thousands of federal inmates have been found guilty of first degree murder and are not on death row, even though their charges were eligible.
There are only 40 inmates on federal death row.

They didn't even pursue it for John Gotti. They didn't pursue it for El Chapo.

The headline is over the top.

Under New York's law he only qualifies for second degree murder, which means only 15-25 years. So, New York added terrorism to increase the charge to 1st degree, so that he could get life sentence. But he isn't guilty of terrorism in the strict sense. So there is a chance the New York case could fall apart.

New York's law is kinda weird, but they removed the term pre-mediated from their first degree murder laws and replaced it with a bunch of conditions. Killing of LE, first responder, judge or via rape, mutilation, torture or terrorism are what qualify for first degree in New York.

And I wonder what Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is thinking right now. According to his 17 Dec press release and the Manhattan County indictment which was voted a True Bill before the Feds took over:

I am going to have a nice glass of wine over dinner with my wife and put this sordid affair out of mind for now.

Sources:

https://manhattanda.org/d-a-bragg-announces-murder-indictment-of-luigi-mangione/

https://manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Mangione-Indictment-FINAL-as-filed.pdf