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HereForTheParty

(286 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 10:31 PM Dec 17

GOP report recommends Liz Cheney be criminally investigated over Jan. 6 work

Source: The Hill

Republicans released a report Tuesday reviewing the “failures and politicization” of the now-disbanded House Jan. 6 committee, capping their investigation by recommending a criminal investigation into former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.).

The 128-page interim report forwards many of the claims circulated by the GOP since the committee was organized, complaining the Jan. 6 select committee was improperly constituted and unfairly pinned blame on President-elect Trump.

“Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi’s multimillion-dollar Select Committee was a political weapon with a singular focus to deceive the public into blaming President Trump for the violence on January 6 and to tarnish the legacy of his first Presidency,” the report states.

The report’s conclusion also calls for an FBI investigation into Cheney, accusing her of witness tampering by being in touch with star witness Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5045125-republicans-report-jan-6-committee/

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GOP report recommends Liz Cheney be criminally investigated over Jan. 6 work (Original Post) HereForTheParty Dec 17 OP
Fuck that shit! Lunabell Dec 17 #1
BUT Graham disagrees!!! elleng Dec 17 #2
Until they remind him of his rent boy photos. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 17 #5
That statement null and void Miguelito Loveless Wednesday #15
YUP!! elleng Wednesday #44
By the BUH-DEEBLE-DEE way, here's a sepa-BUH-DEEBLE-DEE-rated at birth for LG Montauk6 Wednesday #48
If they try J-9 Dec 17 #3
Fuck it. Think. Again. Wednesday #33
Oh, my god!!! I really have no words for this stupidity!! riversedge Dec 17 #4
Some days I feel like I'm being swept away by a tsunami of stupidity. sop Wednesday #29
Every day since 2016 for me. Karasu Wednesday #46
Fuck that. I'm far from a Liz lionizer, but this can't stand. If they come for her, that will be just the beginning. Karasu Dec 17 #6
After the Burger King is crowned, he can just have her thrown out of a window. William Seger Dec 17 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 17 #8
Roll out 100 or more blanket pardons today Biden........ Bengus81 Wednesday #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Wednesday #20
⬆⬆⬆THIS ! ⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. Wednesday #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Wednesday #37
Happy Holidays! Think. Again. Wednesday #42
Good thing her dad has all that oil/blood money to defend her against her former friends. LudwigPastorius Dec 17 #9
Who cares? angrychair Wednesday #10
She cared about the rule of law. OAITW r.2.0 Wednesday #11
Nope angrychair Wednesday #24
You are right Hekate Wednesday #25
If she really did care about the rule of law... Think. Again. Wednesday #36
The real problem is that--if they succeed in this--they aren't going to stop with this tiny-ass handful of Republicans. Karasu Wednesday #12
Yep, and they have every intention of following through with that also. Think. Again. Wednesday #38
She was only one of two Republicans on the J6 Committee, all the rest were House Democrats Rhiannon12866 Wednesday #13
She stood up to tyranny, and still is. We should applaud her for her policy of country over party PortTack Wednesday #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Wednesday #21
Nope angrychair Wednesday #23
They also recommend similar criminal investigations of Nancy Pelosi, Jack Smith and January 6 committee members. Eugene Wednesday #22
Yup, I sure dont! InAbLuEsTaTe Wednesday #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Wednesday #41
She did the right thing and stood up for justice. NH Ethylene Wednesday #49
Anyone who cares about standing up to tyrants should CARE. Callie1979 Thursday #51
So we just ignore angrychair Thursday #57
It's on. orangecrush Wednesday #16
Punks in the back row say what? Marthe48 Wednesday #17
Could be wrong, but I think even the magots are going to tire very quickly of the revenge agenda PortTack Wednesday #18
Unlikely. The Trump Mob will keep throwing meat to their rage Attilatheblond Wednesday #35
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Liz is salivating for this to happen. She's Scrivener7 Wednesday #26
I say have Ms Cheney testify in public. Discovery should be fun. Freethinker65 Wednesday #28
Good point! Hopefully she'll come to the public hearings prepared.... Think. Again. Wednesday #40
And maybe info on the members of THIS committee. Callie1979 Thursday #52
Hopefully she won't hold back this time. Think. Again. Thursday #53
If there is a "deep state" Macrophylla Wednesday #30
Oh please. CousinIT Wednesday #31
Who do these jackweasels think they are? dchill Wednesday #32
Anti-Trump Defense Fund Under The Radar Wednesday #39
She'll be their standard bearer The Wizard Wednesday #43
No fan of Liz Cheney, but choie Wednesday #45
I'm taking back my statement. choie Wednesday #47
The "tampering" here is Cheney saying "get your own lawyer who represents just you, not Trump and his minions" muriel_volestrangler Thursday #50
Congressional immunity, extended by the Constitution's "Speech and Debate Clause" is infinitely more established than 24601 Thursday #54
This is exactly what Hitler did after he took power. Botany Thursday #55
Liz Cheney has nothing to worry about Wiz Imp Thursday #56
Constitution requires that they act to prohibit Donald Trump from taking office Linda Ed Thursday #58
Why the weak Republican allegations against Liz Cheney matter LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #59
"'... and to tarnish the legacy of his first Presidency,' the report states." area51 Thursday #60

sop

(11,573 posts)
29. Some days I feel like I'm being swept away by a tsunami of stupidity.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:43 PM
Wednesday

Seriously, as a country we cannot survive this sort of stupidity much longer.

Karasu

(368 posts)
6. Fuck that. I'm far from a Liz lionizer, but this can't stand. If they come for her, that will be just the beginning.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 11:22 PM
Dec 17

William Seger

(11,113 posts)
7. After the Burger King is crowned, he can just have her thrown out of a window.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 11:33 PM
Dec 17

The Supreme Court says that's fine.

Response to William Seger (Reply #7)

Response to Bengus81 (Reply #19)

Response to Think. Again. (Reply #34)

angrychair

(9,887 posts)
10. Who cares?
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 12:26 AM
Wednesday

Why should I care that Republicans are trying to arrest other Republicans? Who cares. Arrest away. Put her in Gitmo for all I care. Maybe it would make things better to just have them taking turns arresting each other to feel important.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,656 posts)
11. She cared about the rule of law.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 12:55 AM
Wednesday

1st step for the MAGA Trump Republicans.....criminalize the Republicans that disagree. Kissinger is next.

angrychair

(9,887 posts)
24. Nope
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 12:47 PM
Wednesday

She is a Republican. A Republican that voted with Trump over 90% of the time. A Republican that has accused Democrats of killing babies after they are born. A Republican that threw her own sister under the bus to win an election. Plus her father is a war criminal.
Never going to have sympathy for a Republican. Never

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)
36. If she really did care about the rule of law...
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:55 PM
Wednesday

...she would never have been a republican in the first place.

Karasu

(368 posts)
12. The real problem is that--if they succeed in this--they aren't going to stop with this tiny-ass handful of Republicans.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:33 AM
Wednesday

They're an insignificant minority within the party, yes. But We all know the people who they REALLY have it in for.

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)
38. Yep, and they have every intention of following through with that also.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:56 PM
Wednesday

Have no doubt about that.

Rhiannon12866

(224,280 posts)
13. She was only one of two Republicans on the J6 Committee, all the rest were House Democrats
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:38 AM
Wednesday

Including Bennie Thompson, Jamie Raskin, Adam Schiff, Zoe Lofgren, Pete Aguilar.

PortTack

(34,830 posts)
14. She stood up to tyranny, and still is. We should applaud her for her policy of country over party
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 02:13 AM
Wednesday

Response to PortTack (Reply #14)

angrychair

(9,887 posts)
23. Nope
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 12:45 PM
Wednesday

She is a Republican. A Republican that voted with Trump over 90% of the time. A Republican that has accused Democrats of killing babies after they are born. A Republican that threw her own sister under the bus to win an election. Plus her father is a war criminal.
Never going to have sympathy for a Republican. Never

Eugene

(62,767 posts)
22. They also recommend similar criminal investigations of Nancy Pelosi, Jack Smith and January 6 committee members.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 12:13 PM
Wednesday

This prosecution is based on Trump's stolen election narrative, which casts MAGA as the victim.
Opposition to Trump is now "election interference," an offense for which Trump's allies
are calling for legal retribution, both civil and criminal.

Response to angrychair (Reply #10)

NH Ethylene

(31,010 posts)
49. She did the right thing and stood up for justice.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 07:53 PM
Wednesday

I have great respect for her, in spite of political differences, and she needs to be pardoned.

Callie1979

(272 posts)
51. Anyone who cares about standing up to tyrants should CARE.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 06:52 AM
Thursday

She & Kinzinger stood in the gap while amost EVERY other republican cowered. They deserve respect for not backing down.

angrychair

(9,887 posts)
57. So we just ignore
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 11:03 AM
Thursday

That while in Congress she voted with Trump over 90% of the time and accused Democrats of killing babies after they are born as a form of (very) late term abortion?
If there was one clear and unequivocal takeaway from the election its that the placating of Republicans should have ended on November 5th.

These people are not our friends or allies. Before it's all done they will fuck Democrats over and just be another trump sycophant because they are Republicans and can't help themselves.

Marthe48

(19,321 posts)
17. Punks in the back row say what?
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 09:12 AM
Wednesday

rwnj continually remind me of the obvious failures in high school who sat in the back of every classroom, if they weren't assigned seats. The ones who sprawled their legs, with arms crossed, maybe eyes shut or making snotty comments when the teacher talked. Or trying to imtimidate or belittle other kids in the class. I never thought any othe them would make it to leadership positions. Yet, there they are, with the same attitude as when they sat in school, with no class.

PortTack

(34,830 posts)
18. Could be wrong, but I think even the magots are going to tire very quickly of the revenge agenda
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 10:43 AM
Wednesday

Attilatheblond

(4,545 posts)
35. Unlikely. The Trump Mob will keep throwing meat to their rage
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:53 PM
Wednesday

It's one thing the T Mob does well, and it keeps their panting animals so agitated there will be no actual thinking done, not that there has ever been much with that rabble.

Scrivener7

(53,186 posts)
26. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Liz is salivating for this to happen. She's
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:39 PM
Wednesday

got ALL the receipts color coded in binders with a powerpoint presentation justifying every move she made.

Plus a pop-up book to keep trump occupied while the adults are talking.

Freethinker65

(11,162 posts)
28. I say have Ms Cheney testify in public. Discovery should be fun.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:42 PM
Wednesday

Trump was still the President. Trump helped plan, and encouraged funding for, the stop the steal rally where Trump was the main speaker. At the rally Trump riled up an angry mob to march to the Capitol to find Mike Pence to delay/stop certification of the election. Trump did not march with the mob as he said he would. Instead he watched events unfold on TV. He fielded calls to put a stop to his angry mob now turning violent and breaking into the Capitol while Congress ran for their lives (Hawley, Romney, etc.) while others hid and barricaded themselves. Trump delayed any action against the mob until he could see the insurrection attempt would fail. After, Trump was admonished for the stunt by both Democrats and Republicans. Most Republicans, not wanting to lose political power, eventually decided to stick with the failed insurrectionist.

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)
40. Good point! Hopefully she'll come to the public hearings prepared....
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:59 PM
Wednesday

....with all sorts of other information the J6 Commitee excluded from their final reports.

CousinIT

(10,484 posts)
31. Oh please.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:45 PM
Wednesday

This is just meant to harass her. It won't result in any charges.
They DO love going after women though, don't they?
Maybe they just haven't gotten around to Kinzinger et al yet.

Under The Radar

(3,420 posts)
39. Anti-Trump Defense Fund
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 01:56 PM
Wednesday

Give me the information of the group/organization that will provide legal defense for everyone on Trump's hit list, and i will donate a portion of my paycheck to them each month.

choie

(4,703 posts)
47. I'm taking back my statement.
Wed Dec 18, 2024, 06:54 PM
Wednesday

I don't believe Joe should pardon her or any of the Jan 6th committee members. That would imply that they're guilty of something. Let trump go after her (and the other members)! That will just expose the January 6th insurrectionists to the microscope again, and that won't be a good look (for trump).

muriel_volestrangler

(102,693 posts)
50. The "tampering" here is Cheney saying "get your own lawyer who represents just you, not Trump and his minions"
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 06:14 AM
Thursday

Which is neutral advice that Hutchinson really did need.

Hutchinson’s initial lawyer, Stefan Passantino, was accused of encouraging her to say she remembered little about the day and said she would be able to get a good job in Trump World.

The interim report shows texts between Hutchinson and Alyssa Farah Griffin, another former White House aide, and accuses Farah Griffin of acting as a backchannel between the two women.

It later notes that Hutchinson reached out to Cheney, with the lawmaker in her own book noting she advised the aide to seek an attorney as “every witness deserves an attorney who will represent their interests exclusively.”

You may recall that, as early as September 2022, Hutchinson, in a closed-door interview conducted by the January 6 select committee, said that a former member of Trump’s White House counsel assigned to her was advising her to answer “I don’t recall” and “to use that response as much as you deem necessary” during her upcoming testimony. From CBS News:

Hutchinson walked the panel through her early efforts to secure low-cost legal representation beginning November 2021, when she became aware she would be subpoenaed to appear before the select committee. She eventually received a call from Stefan Passantino, a former White House ethics lawyer, in early February, who said he would be representing her but declined to reveal who was paying him. Hutchinson expressed to the committee her concern of being represented by an attorney with ties to Trump and recalled telling her mother after Passantino was brought on as her lawyer that “I’m f**ked.”

Good call.

Hutchinson first met with Passantino on Feb. 16 at the Washington, D.C., office of the law firm Michael Best, she told investigators, and said he urged her to “downplay your role. ‘You were a secretary,’ ” Hutchinson said Passantino told her, according to the transcript. “ ‘You had an administrative role. Everyone’s on the same page about this.’ ” Passantino also told Hutchinson, “We’re going to take care of you,” she revealed to the committee.

Being taken care of by a Trump-connected lawyer does not sound very similar to being taken care of by the Sisters of Mercy. Hutchinson was sharp enough to realize this and went shopping for her own lawyer. She found him and they negotiated her public testimony to the January 6 select committee, which was one of the highlights of the hearings. Now it seems as though Loudermilk is accusing Hutchinson and Cheney of conspiring to find an attorney who would actually act in Hutchinson’s interest. Horrors. Also, Loudermilk’s report implies that Hutchinson’s testimony at the hearings was perjurious as a result of this effort. Good luck proving that, rube.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a63229294/representative-loudermilk-investigation-liz-cheney-matt-gaetz-report/

24601

(4,030 posts)
54. Congressional immunity, extended by the Constitution's "Speech and Debate Clause" is infinitely more established than
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 07:08 AM
Thursday

any level of Presidential immunity.

Botany

(72,659 posts)
55. This is exactly what Hitler did after he took power.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 07:43 AM
Thursday

And that was going after the press (Trump sues Iowa Newspaper) and opposition
political parties (having his minions going after Liz Cheney for her Constitutional right
of free speech).

We are in for some really dark times.

Wiz Imp

(2,430 posts)
56. Liz Cheney has nothing to worry about
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:27 AM
Thursday

She has broken no laws, and they won't be able to "prove" anything. Accusations and innuendo mean nothing. Just like they tried for years to do something to Biden but failed because he did nothing wrong. All they had were false accusations and innuendo. Don't get me wrong, just floating this out there is a tremendous abuse of power, but they will not be successful in actually bringing Liz Cheney(or anyone else) down.

Linda Ed

(509 posts)
58. Constitution requires that they act to prohibit Donald Trump from taking office
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 02:19 PM
Thursday

Constitutional law professor Evan Bernick joins Jessica Denson to explain why lawmakers' oath to the Constitution requires that they act to prohibit Donald Trump from taking office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.



Constitutional law professor Evan Bernick joins Jessica Denson to explain why lawmakers' oath to the Constitution requires that they act to prohibit Donald Trump from taking office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,514 posts)
59. Why the weak Republican allegations against Liz Cheney matter
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 08:41 PM
Thursday

It's less about baseless allegations of crimes and more about what Donald Trump and his team intend to do with the baseless allegations of crimes.
https://bsky.app/profile/mynewsfeed.link/post/3ldor5uw5q42s

Why the weak Republican allegations against Liz Cheney matter: Two weeks ago, as speculation intensified about President Joe Biden protecting potential GOP targets with pre-emptive pardons, Republican Rep



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/weak-republican-allegations-liz-cheney-matter-rcna184904

Two weeks later, as NBC News reported, one of Meuser’s colleagues declared that the FBI should investigate Cheney as a result of her work on the Jan. 6 panel:

“Based on the evidence obtained by this Subcommittee, numerous federal laws were likely broken by Liz Cheney, the former Vice Chair of the January 6 Select Committee, and these violations should be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation,” said an interim report released by Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., who chairs the House Administration’s oversight subcommittee, which investigated the Jan. 6 select committee.


The report specifically alleged that House Republicans, as part of their investigation into the Jan. 6 investigation, found evidence showing Cheney “tampered with at least one witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, by secretly communicating with Hutchinson without her attorney’s knowledge.”.....

And that’s ultimately what makes this story so notable. It’s easy to brush off baseless claims from a subcommittee, but the broader political context matters: We’ll soon have a new president hellbent on retaliating against his perceived enemies, and the former Wyoming congresswoman is a foe Trump seems to enjoy hating. This is the same president-elect, of course, who not only spent his first term trying to weaponize federal law enforcement, but who also intends to put sycophantic partisans in charge of the Justice Department and the FBI.

The New York Times published a related analysis following Loudermilk’s claims, adding, “For years, President-elect Donald J. Trump has made it known that people he believes to be his enemies should be prosecuted. This week, his allies in Congress laid out a template for how to go after one of them in particular: Liz Cheney, the former Wyoming representative who has been a focus of Mr. Trump’s anger.”

So much for “nobody’s going to be going after Liz Cheney.”

For her part, the former House GOP Conference chair responded to the allegations in a statement that said Loudermilk’s report “intentionally disregards the truth and the Select Committee’s tremendous weight of evidence, and instead fabricates lies and defamatory allegations in an attempt to cover up what Donald Trump did.” Cheney added, “Their allegations do not reflect a review of the actual evidence, and are a malicious and cowardly assault on the truth.

area51

(12,187 posts)
60. "'... and to tarnish the legacy of his first Presidency,' the report states."
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 11:23 PM
Thursday

#DementiaDonnie already did that to himself.

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