Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BumRushDaShow

(144,186 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 05:15 AM Dec 16

Biden and Harris urge Democrats to 'keep the faith' at DNC holiday reception

Source: ABC News

December 15, 2024, 8:09 PM


President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris delivered remarks at the Democratic National Committee's holiday reception in Washington, D.C., on Sunday. Both Biden and Harris thanked party members for all that they did for Harris' presidential campaign effort and Biden's presidency over the past four years.

Biden, who has just over a month left in office, talked about his legacy and the lasting effect he wanted to leave on America. "The one thing I've always believed about public service, and especially about the presidency, is the importance of asking yourself: 'Have we left the country in better shape than we found it?'" Biden said during his remarks.

"Today, I can say, with [every] fiber of my being, of all my heart, the answer to that question is a resounding 'yes.' Because of all of you assembled here, we can be proud we're leaving America in a better place today than we came here four years ago," Biden continued.

Biden did try to make the pitch that many of the benefits of his actions in office won't be fully felt by Americans for some time. He touted the success of the CHIPS and Science Act, but also argued that the money invested into American chip manufacturing plants wouldn't generate economic benefits for many years.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-harris-urge-democrats-faith-dnc-holiday-reception/story?id=116813507

20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Biden and Harris urge Democrats to 'keep the faith' at DNC holiday reception (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 16 OP
Biden made investments in America. Trump will make plunder. /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 16 #1
With eyes set on winning the war... HariSeldon Dec 16 #2
they were royally screwed by a media that gave every break to the criminal running on the GOP side LymphocyteLover Dec 16 #3
The media didn't pull the levers in the voting booth. ificandream Dec 16 #5
what is the solution for a Democracy when the "demo" doesn't deserve it? cadoman Dec 16 #7
It's still shocking... ificandream Dec 16 #4
I don't think that is the case... malthaussen Dec 16 #13
Still hard to believe. ificandream Dec 16 #16
Yes. Obviously so. maxsolomon Dec 16 #17
Well, yeah. But I think there's more to it. malthaussen Dec 16 #18
Faith without works is dead. There is a hell of a lot of work to do from top to bottom. Magoo48 Dec 16 #6
The messaging was not strong enough. oldmanlynn Dec 16 #8
"Every bull horn TV and Radio station needed to be used to get the message across." BumRushDaShow Dec 16 #10
There was a clear difference in messaging during the debates JI7 Dec 16 #15
Debates are just a simple small blip in time 1or 2 days media coverage oldmanlynn Dec 17 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 16 #9
I posted a reply as an OP. Leadership comes and goes. usonian Dec 16 #11
"Faith" is a good word for it. Reason need not apply. malthaussen Dec 16 #12
Easy for them to say Miguelito Loveless Dec 16 #14
What faith? mine is gone Clouds Passing Dec 16 #19

HariSeldon

(509 posts)
2. With eyes set on winning the war...
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 08:02 AM
Dec 16

...they lost the battle that may cost them (and us) the war. I will vote for Democrats because their policies make America a better country, but their electoral acumen is highly disappointing.

LymphocyteLover

(6,968 posts)
3. they were royally screwed by a media that gave every break to the criminal running on the GOP side
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 08:09 AM
Dec 16

cadoman

(968 posts)
7. what is the solution for a Democracy when the "demo" doesn't deserve it?
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 09:11 AM
Dec 16

...and the fourth estate has embraced not just both-siderism, but fascism?

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
4. It's still shocking...
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 09:00 AM
Dec 16

… voters preferred an agenda, like Trump‘s over such a positive agenda like Harris‘s.

malthaussen

(17,786 posts)
13. I don't think that is the case...
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:25 PM
Dec 16

... DJT drew just about as many votes as he did last time. His faithful are his faithful, and they hear what they want to hear.

He won because sufficient Democratic voters didn't show up. Millions chose apathy, not caring if it was really a vote in favor of DJT. IOW, the issue is not how many are for DJT, because those numbers are pretty stable. The issue is how many aren't sufficiently against him to vote accordingly.

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,786 posts)
18. Well, yeah. But I think there's more to it.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 03:30 PM
Dec 16

My theory is that a certain number of voters are so used to the constant warnings, so used to the cries that "The Sky is Falling," that they've come to consider them nothing more than business as usual. "Yeah, yeah, yeah, heard that all before" would sum up this attitude. One of the consequences of the Post-Truth reality is that superlatives can no longer be believed -- everyone uses them, all the time. When everything is superlative, nothing is; even though the Sky was, in fact, falling this time, they could not be convinced it was any more than partisan rhetoric. Or not, but it's a theory consistent with the results.

-- Mal

oldmanlynn

(509 posts)
8. The messaging was not strong enough.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 09:13 AM
Dec 16

Every bull horn Tv and Radio station needed to be used to get the message across. Republicans do that on nasty things they intended to do and their nasty rhetoric wad what Americans heard and believed.

We can solve all the worlds problems but if the world doesnt know it doesn’t make a difference

BumRushDaShow

(144,186 posts)
10. "Every bull horn TV and Radio station needed to be used to get the message across."
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 09:41 AM
Dec 16

That is where close to half a billion dollars were spent - ads on TV (OTA, cable, satellite, streaming), radio (OTA, satellite, streaming), independent internet steaming (on a multitude of internet streaming platforms like YouTube and their various topic programming), fixed highway and mobile billboards, banner planes, projectors that display messages on the sides of buildings, AND use of the new LED-enabled "messaging" facilities like this in Las Vegas that ran on their "Sphere" -



No there was NOT any "lack" (quantity) of "messaging" but perhaps a need for different "message content"... However more importantly, there is a need for our OWN microphone, owned by "LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES", that runs 24/7/365 - whether on radio (that DU laughs at yet it works for the GOP) using a complete line-up of syndicated talkers AND using the latest talk format phenomena that has started to obsolete the traditional "broadcast" outlets - the "podcast" (and in this case, needing to go beyond the fly-by-night "influencer" thing). There needs to be a whole suite of "podcasters" talking "liberal/progressive" ideas and ideals.

JI7

(90,877 posts)
15. There was a clear difference in messaging during the debates
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:45 PM
Dec 16

it's not about messaging.

oldmanlynn

(509 posts)
20. Debates are just a simple small blip in time 1or 2 days media coverage
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:07 AM
Dec 17

Im talking about messaging being delivered every day so it sticks in the minds of people.

Americans hear 2 hours of debate and then everyday they get republican propaganda on tv and radio stations. What msnbc talks about is generated from Republicans talking or doing something

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

malthaussen

(17,786 posts)
12. "Faith" is a good word for it. Reason need not apply.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:21 PM
Dec 16

I won't go further, as it would verge on Democrat bashing.

-- Mal

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Biden and Harris urge Dem...