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BumRushDaShow

(144,187 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:17 PM Dec 15

Romney stands by Trump criticism but says MAGA is now the Republican Party

Source: CNN Politics

Updated 10:09 AM EST, Sun December 15, 2024


CNN — Sen. Mitt Romney, a frequent Donald Trump critic who will soon retire from Congress, stood by his criticism of the president-elect’s character but said Trump and his MAGA movement now define the Republican Party.

“I’m, as you know, not a supporter of President Trump’s. I didn’t support him in this election. I didn’t the last time he ran either, largely for matters of character,” the Utah Republican, who was the 2012 GOP presidential nominee, told CNN’s Jake Tapper in a wide-ranging interview on “State of the Union” on Sunday.

But Romney acknowledged Trump’s grip on the party he once led. “MAGA is the Republican Party and Donald Trump is the Republican Party today,” he said.

Asked about his sustained criticism of Trump, which dates to the president-elect’s first White House run in 2016, Romney described himself as “kinda outspoken” and said he felt that Trump “was wrong for the country, wrong for our party, that he wouldn’t win,” but he noted, “I was wrong about that.” “I think most people disagree with me. I’m willing to live with that. I just put emphasis on different things than I think the public at large does right now,” he said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/15/politics/romney-trump-state-of-the-union/index.html

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Romney stands by Trump criticism but says MAGA is now the Republican Party (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 15 OP
Have to give him some props for speaking out. ificandream Dec 15 #1
Mittens was playing an angle here... Blue_Tires Dec 15 #11
No, the Republican Party is now the MAGA Cult. republianmushroom Dec 15 #2
Yes and no. Igel Dec 15 #3
MAGA fascist cult. Magoo48 Dec 15 #7
Which is the "news" part? JoseBalow Dec 15 #4
Romney says that GOP policies are not aligned with its working class voters andym Dec 15 #5
No shit, Mitt. I'd argue it's been that way for 8+ years. The "moderate" Republican was all but dead BEFORE Trump. Karasu Dec 15 #6
chickenshit Astraea Dec 15 #8
weak sauce mittens always behind the curve. Javaman Dec 15 #9
Rmoney is a weasel LilElf70 Dec 15 #10

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
1. Have to give him some props for speaking out.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:21 PM
Dec 15

There have been few in the GOP who have had the guts.

Blue_Tires

(56,725 posts)
11. Mittens was playing an angle here...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 11:51 PM
Dec 15

If Donnie had lost this election and both houses of Congress, he would have fallen out of favor and Mitt was waiting in the wings to assume full control of a "new" GOP

Igel

(36,229 posts)
3. Yes and no.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:47 PM
Dec 15

It's like saying the Democratic Party in the '90s was entirely neo-liberals, or in 2023 were all progressives.

MAGA is a controlling majority for the (R) party, to be sure, but there are others that despise Trump but despised Harris even more.

Every election result is a mix of "I really want to vote for this person," "I guess I'll vote for this person" and "Ewww ... I gotta vote against that person!"

I mean, look at straight ticket voters. Most vote down-ballot by party, but can they honestly say, "Yes, knowing nothing about this person and seeing that person's name for the first time while in the voting booth, I really wanted that person to win because I stand with him/her on all the issues and the candidate's life story and plans for the future strongly resonate with me"?

Some of it's "I guess I'll vote for this person," to the extent their eyesight allows them to resolve "R" from "D" and maybe with an appended "go team!" and sometimes it's "Yeah, not that dork, better the person you don't know than the person you know and can't stand."

Every party that's won an election in any state I've lived in (so that should include Greens, Libertarians, and all the podunk mini-parties) is guided by a minority that forms the core of the majority, with all the add-ons pushing them over the finish line. I knew people at work that hated Trump, but would rather drink their own piss in perpetuity than not vote against Biden/Harris (and the switch in June/July made little difference to their rhetoric).

andym

(5,723 posts)
5. Romney says that GOP policies are not aligned with its working class voters
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:55 PM
Dec 15

in another article on the interview here: https://www.yahoo.com/news/mitt-romney-makes-bold-prediction-154807486.html
and that they must change their policies accordingly. In other words, working class union members voted against their own economic interests.
He also suggests that there is a realignment of the parties going on with regards to who are their base.

Karasu

(368 posts)
6. No shit, Mitt. I'd argue it's been that way for 8+ years. The "moderate" Republican was all but dead BEFORE Trump.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:48 PM
Dec 15

I always say the last Republicans I had any respect for were those who left in the exodus after Trump got the nom in 2016 and became Dems or indies. The "anti-Trumpers" are such a stupidly small minority within the party they might as well not even fucking exist. They are completely powerless, utterly irrelevant, and the few who remain after 2020 are about to be ground into the finest of dust.

The very act of voting for a Republican after 2016--for any reason--is not moderate. Whatever excuses one might give themselves, you are enabling fascism. It's a completely anti-democratic party for people who don't believe in norms and do whatever the fuck they want once they're in office, with no accountability to anyone or anything.

Astraea

(498 posts)
8. chickenshit
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:29 PM
Dec 15

if you really wanted to make a statement, Mitt, you should have switched parties. You're out the door anyway, nobody on that side likes you, and it would have been the only notable thing remembered about you, even your failed run for the Presidency, which is now a distant memory.

Javaman

(63,196 posts)
9. weak sauce mittens always behind the curve.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:53 PM
Dec 15

he needs to get the fuck out of the way and stop siding with the "republican" party. it hasn't existed for at least 10 years.

LilElf70

(545 posts)
10. Rmoney is a weasel
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 11:03 PM
Dec 15

Didn't care for him when he ran for president. He absolutely refused to expose his taxes. I'll never forget it. Still don't like him. Glad to see him go. Nothing he said today will resonate with Chump. Or anyone else.

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