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BumRushDaShow

(144,186 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 05:52 AM Dec 15

'Ring Kissed': Dem Lawyer Tears Into 'Obedience' of ABC News Settling Trump Defamation Suit With 'Knee Bent'

Source: MEDIAite

Dec 14th, 2024, 6:51 pm


High-profile Democratic attorney Marc Elias blasted ABC News on Saturday evening after the network settled a defamation lawsuit that was filed by President-elect Donald Trump.

Elias posted on social media he viewed the settlement as a sign that yet another media outlet was waving the white flag regarding Trump.

The network apologized to Trump over comments network anchor George Stephanopoulos made earlier this year during a Sunday morning interview with Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC). Stephanopoulos said numerous times Trump had been adjudicated of rape while referring to the E. Jean Carroll civil sexual abuse lawsuit – which she won.

Trump sued for defamation, arguing the anchor made “demonstrably false” remarks with “actual malice or with a reckless disregard for the truth.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/trump/ring-kissed-dem-lawyer-tears-into-obedience-of-abc-news-settling-trump-defamation-suit-with-knee-bent/



Heads-up to DU (from the above-linked article) -

Elias also announced his intention to leave X by the end of the month and to join Bluesky.





Marc E. Elias
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By end of year I will stop posting on X. You can follow me on Bluesky (http://marcelias.bsky.social).

But the best way to stay up to date is to subscribe to Democracy Docket for free. https://democracydocket.com/me-subscribe/
3:39 PM · Dec 14, 2024





Marc E. Elias
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Knee bent. Ring kissed. Another legacy news outlet chooses obedience.

A reminder, Democracy Docket is fiercely independent and unapologetically pro-democracy. It will not back down. It will not obey. Sign-up to support. http://democracydocket.com/me-subscribe...
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BREAKING: ABC News agrees to pay $15 million to Trump's presidential library to settle defamation suit filed by president-elect. https://apnews.com/article/abc-trump-lawsuit-defamation-stephanopoulos-04aea8663310af39ae2a85f4c1a56d68?taid=675df07a59fc7f00013901b6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
3:55 PM · Dec 14, 2024





Marc E. Elias
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I bet Bezos, Zuckerberg and the rest are bummed that they will now need to match the $15m payment to Trump in order to keep up with Disney.
4:15 PM · Dec 14, 2024





Marc E. Elias
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Does anyone have a list of legacy media that have not (yet) apologized to, praised and/or paid Trump since Election Day?
4:30 PM · Dec 14, 2024
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'Ring Kissed': Dem Lawyer Tears Into 'Obedience' of ABC News Settling Trump Defamation Suit With 'Knee Bent' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 15 OP
Mindless ball licking cowards guss Dec 15 #1
Trump had been adjudicated of rape - it's a fact of law, not 'defamation.' J_William_Ryan Dec 15 #2
Right??? Where is the defamation exactly? LymphocyteLover Dec 15 #3
Right! Carroll's judge himself said the jury found Trump raped Carroll. SunSeeker Dec 15 #5
Instead of $, I think this is what the settlement should have been... thesquanderer Dec 15 #14
It wasn't "sexual assault" under NY law. SunSeeker Dec 15 #19
Ah yes, abuse, not assault. Still not something to be proud of... thesquanderer Dec 15 #20
Judge Kaplan said the jury found Trump raped Carroll, so I'm going with that description. nt SunSeeker Dec 15 #22
Marc Elias is one of the dwindling few still willing to speak truth to power. SunSeeker Dec 15 #4
I'll have to do that on Bluesky. I've watched him for years on Brian Tyler Cohen Bengus81 Dec 15 #6
I've seen him with Brian Tyler Cohen too From The Ashes Dec 15 #16
Yes he is! bluestarone Dec 15 #18
Okay, so let me get this straight... GiqueCee Dec 15 #7
A library of Little Golden Books Sequoia Dec 15 #12
My father... GiqueCee Dec 15 #13
Nice ! Sequoia Dec 17 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Sequoia Dec 17 #26
Access guaranteed Hartpi978 Dec 15 #8
Is marc elias the only one fighting for Dems? oldmanlynn Dec 15 #9
"where is the Democratic Party leaders?" BumRushDaShow Dec 15 #10
What social media sites do you follow for news? SunSeeker Dec 15 #23
I actually have no social media accounts BumRushDaShow Dec 15 #24
Feels like it😐 Rebl2 Dec 15 #11
Americans never get to talk about "self-sufficiency" or "rugged individualism" ever fucking again when the vast majority Karasu Dec 15 #15
So much for Freedom of the Press, eh? ABC cowards. I wonder how they'll all act when tRUMP does his first foul SWBTATTReg Dec 15 #17
After January 20th Miguelito Loveless Dec 15 #21

J_William_Ryan

(2,262 posts)
2. Trump had been adjudicated of rape - it's a fact of law, not 'defamation.'
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:48 AM
Dec 15

ABC has joined the Trump Cult facilitating post-truth America.

SunSeeker

(54,049 posts)
5. Right! Carroll's judge himself said the jury found Trump raped Carroll.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:06 AM
Dec 15

Judge Kaplan, who presided over both of Carroll’s lawsuits against Trump, said the definition of rape in the state code was “far narrower” than how rape is defined in common modern parlance, in some dictionaries, in some federal and state criminal statutes and elsewhere.

Under New York law, a rape finding requires vaginal penetration by a penis. Forcible penetration without consent of the vagina or other bodily orifices by fingers or anything else is labeled “sexual abuse.”

But, Judge Kaplan said the verdict did not mean that Carroll “failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’ Indeed ... the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-abc-lawsuit_n_675df4d7e4b0e1241a417b15

thesquanderer

(12,394 posts)
14. Instead of $, I think this is what the settlement should have been...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:54 PM
Dec 15

They should have had George Stephanopoulos do a spot that said something like:

"I'd like to apologize to Donald Trump. I had broadcast that he had been adjudicated of rape. In fact, while what he was found to have committed would have been called rape in many states and in a common usage of the term, technically, what he was found to have done did not qualify as rape in the state of New York, but rather as sexual assault, and I should have been more clear. While whether or not he committed rape may be a matter of perspective, technically, by the laws of New York, he was adjudicated of sexual assault rather than rape."

And run it over and over. It serves the purpose of addressing the "defamation" albeit in a way Trump would likely regret, as it would instead be a frequently repeated reminder to the public that he was indeed found responsible for sexual assault.

SunSeeker

(54,049 posts)
19. It wasn't "sexual assault" under NY law.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 05:38 PM
Dec 15

The actual legal term under New York law for act Trump was found to have committed was "sexual abuse." Which is a very banal New York law term for what everyone else would call rape, namely forced vaginal penetration, albeit not with a penis.

thesquanderer

(12,394 posts)
20. Ah yes, abuse, not assault. Still not something to be proud of...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 06:43 PM
Dec 15

...unless maybe you're putting it on your resume to be appointed to some position in the trump administration.

SunSeeker

(54,049 posts)
22. Judge Kaplan said the jury found Trump raped Carroll, so I'm going with that description. nt
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:33 PM
Dec 15

SunSeeker

(54,049 posts)
4. Marc Elias is one of the dwindling few still willing to speak truth to power.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:03 AM
Dec 15

Everyone should be following Mark Elias on Bluesky. All of his tweets on Twitter are also posted on Bluesky: http://marcelias.bsky.social/

Bengus81

(7,494 posts)
6. I'll have to do that on Bluesky. I've watched him for years on Brian Tyler Cohen
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:36 AM
Dec 15

Him and his law firm fight endlessly against Republicans non-stop efforts to game the voting system in State after State.

From The Ashes

(2,705 posts)
16. I've seen him with Brian Tyler Cohen too
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 05:03 PM
Dec 15

He puts out a newsletter too, called Democracy Docket.

GiqueCee

(1,508 posts)
7. Okay, so let me get this straight...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:31 AM
Dec 15

... ABC's on-air talent repeated a documented, irrefutable fact, to which, in typical fashion, the Orange Shitgibbon took umbrage. So now the Orange Shitgibbon's... wait – LIBRARY?!!? – of dried-out Sharpies and broken crayons is getting $15 mil and ABC's balls.
Sounds legit.

GiqueCee

(1,508 posts)
13. My father...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 11:19 AM
Dec 15

... illustrated hundreds of Little Golden Books. I'd hate to see any of his books in the possession of the Orange Shitgibbon.

Response to GiqueCee (Reply #13)

oldmanlynn

(509 posts)
9. Is marc elias the only one fighting for Dems?
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:30 AM
Dec 15

Im glad he is on our team but where is the Democratic Party leaders?

BumRushDaShow

(144,186 posts)
10. "where is the Democratic Party leaders?"
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:38 AM
Dec 15

Congress is still in session trying to keep the government from being shut down (let alone with Dems trying to keep poison-pill crap out of any CR).... and in the Senate, Schumer is trying to get judges confirmed.

As you probably know, Nancy Pelosi just had a hip replacement at a base in Germany.

I try to post what gets published by the M$M but this is probably a situation where those who are on social media and follow our Dem leadership, do see their "commentary" (whether the 45 bought-and-paid-for media cover it or not).

I know many on DU hate those social media enities but that is what is being used for "communications" unfortunately.

BumRushDaShow

(144,186 posts)
24. I actually have no social media accounts
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:37 PM
Dec 15

If one is linked to in a news article (and they often are), and it will let me view it, I'll look at it. Before Musk bought it, I used to have the "web versions" of twitter accounts (in browser tabs) for some of the M$M reporters like Scott McFarlane (CBS), Kyle Cheney (Politico), and Ryan Reilly (NBC) because they were stationed at a D.C. courthouse watching the grand juries and live-blogging cases. After it was bought and became "X", the access changed for something as simple as monitoring the posts without having to have an account, and log in.

Karasu

(368 posts)
15. Americans never get to talk about "self-sufficiency" or "rugged individualism" ever fucking again when the vast majority
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:33 PM
Dec 15

seem to be bending over backwards to kiss the ring of an insurrectionist criminal.

SWBTATTReg

(24,332 posts)
17. So much for Freedom of the Press, eh? ABC cowards. I wonder how they'll all act when tRUMP does his first foul
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 05:09 PM
Dec 15

deed of his new term. I'm not looking forward to it.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,701 posts)
21. After January 20th
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 06:49 PM
Dec 15

we will no longer be able to trust anything the government or Corporate Media tell us.

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