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highplainsdem

(52,833 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:02 PM Dec 13

OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

Source: Mercury News

A former OpenAI researcher known for whistleblowing the blockbuster artificial intelligence company facing a swell of lawsuits over its business model has died, authorities confirmed this week.

Suchir Balaji, 26, was found dead inside his Buchanan Street apartment on Nov. 26, San Francisco police and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner said. Police had been called to the Lower Haight residence at about 1 p.m. that day, after receiving a call asking officers to check on his well-being, a police spokesperson said.

The medical examiner’s office has not released his cause of death, but police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

Information he held was expected to play a key part in lawsuits against the San Francisco-based company.

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Read more: https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/12/13/openai-whistleblower-found-dead-in-san-francisco-apartment/



He had a Twitter account but posted very little on it. Here's the text of all of his tweets, posted on October 23 and 25, after a NYT article on his whistleblowing on October 23:

Suchir Balaji
@suchirbalaji
I recently participated in a NYT story about fair use and generative AI, and why I'm skeptical "fair use" would be a plausible defense for a lot of generative AI products. I also wrote a blog post (https://suchir.net/fair_use.html) about the nitty-gritty details of fair use and why I believe this.

To give some context: I was at OpenAI for nearly 4 years and worked on ChatGPT for the last 1.5 of them. I initially didn't know much about copyright, fair use, etc. but became curious after seeing all the lawsuits filed against GenAI companies. When I tried to understand the issue better, I eventually came to the conclusion that fair use seems like a pretty implausible defense for a lot of generative AI products, for the basic reason that they can create substitutes that compete with the data they're trained on. I've written up the more detailed reasons for why I believe this in my post. Obviously, I'm not a lawyer, but I still feel like it's important for even non-lawyers to understand the law -- both the letter of it, and also why it's actually there in the first place.

That being said, I don't want this to read as a critique of ChatGPT or OpenAI per se, because fair use and generative AI is a much broader issue than any one product or company. I highly encourage ML researchers to learn more about copyright -- it's a really important topic, and precedent that's often cited like Google Books isn't actually as supportive as it might seem.

Feel free to get in touch if you'd like to chat about fair use, ML, or copyright -- I think it's a very interesting intersection. My email's on my personal website.
3:54 PM · Oct 23, 2024


Here is the article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/technology/openai-copyright-law.html

3:54 PM · Oct 23, 2024


(and thanks @ednewtonrex for advice while writing this!)
3:54 PM · Oct 23, 2024


Also, since I see some incorrect speculation:

The NYT didn't reach out to me for this article; I reached out to them because I thought I had an interesting perspective, as someone who's been working on these systems since before the current generative AI bubble. None of this is related to their lawsuit with OpenAI - I just think they're a good newspaper.

6:41 PM · Oct 23, 2024


He added this in response to someone's reply (since deleted) on October 25:

Suchir Balaji
@suchirbalaji

It's nuanced. Generally speaking, it actually is fair use to train models on copyrighted data for research purposes. The problems happen when the models are commercially deployed in a way that competes with their data sources.

When I worked on training datasets for GPT-4 in early 2022, OpenAI's API business did not really compete with its data sources. This changed with the deployment of ChatGPT in late 2022, which I came to believe should not be considered fair use.

4:51 PM · Oct 25, 2024


(research is explicitly highlighted as an example of "fair use" in section 107: https://law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/107. The importance of the commerciality of the use is also seen in the first factor)

4:55 PM · Oct 25, 2024



Testimony he could have given would have been a serious threat to OpenAI and likely to other AI companies - and to the billionaires funding them and hoping to profit from them, and from the theft of the world's intellectual property. Which is NEVER fair use when done to compete with those creators and make a profit.

Editing to add that I've seen no explanation for news of his death coming this late, 17 days after he was found dead, when he had been in the news because of the whistleblowing.
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OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 13 OP
No evidence of foul play, hu? SheltieLover Dec 13 #1
Yep, just a successful 26 year old dying of old age or something. Think. Again. Dec 13 #3
This story just makes me feel sick to my stomach. highplainsdem Dec 13 #8
Even if the ME suspected foul play TexasBushwhacker Dec 13 #15
Didn't I just read something about... Think. Again. Dec 13 #2
And Musk's own xAI has almost certainly trained AI as illegally as OpenAI has. highplainsdem Dec 13 #6
Yeah, sent this to my brother this evening Leghorn21 Dec 13 #7
Yes. I posted about that. highplainsdem Dec 13 #10
Thank you for that! Think. Again. Dec 13 #11
Who benefits from his death? Irish_Dem Dec 13 #4
Not just OpenAI, but every tech company training AI illegally - and I honestly don't know of any AI company highplainsdem Dec 13 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 13 #13
He had a target on his back. Irish_Dem Dec 13 #16
The microwave Hassin Bin Sober Dec 13 #14
He must have lived on a lower floor. louis-t Dec 13 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 13 #12
This is how they roll. nt moniss Dec 13 #17
Nothing will get between billionaires and their money. Bluethroughu Dec 13 #18
AI is nothing more than a giant plagiarism machine PSPS Dec 13 #19
Kick ck4829 Dec 16 #20

TexasBushwhacker

(20,733 posts)
15. Even if the ME suspected foul play
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:07 PM
Dec 13

I doubt they would share it with the press. They aren't really under any obligation to.

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)
2. Didn't I just read something about...
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:05 PM
Dec 13

...that musk guy wanting to get "total control" of OpenAI somehow?

Irish_Dem

(59,688 posts)
4. Who benefits from his death?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:11 PM
Dec 13

How much is it worth to someone for him to fall out of a window die?

highplainsdem

(52,833 posts)
9. Not just OpenAI, but every tech company training AI illegally - and I honestly don't know of any AI company
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:17 PM
Dec 13

that trained its AI models perfectly legally.

Generative AI is fundamentally unethical and built on theft of the world's intellectual property.

Response to highplainsdem (Reply #9)

Irish_Dem

(59,688 posts)
16. He had a target on his back.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:08 PM
Dec 13

The AI companies have a sleaze factor with no prohibitions about following legalities.

I am sure billionaires, fascist governments, criminal enterprises would love to use AI for their nefarious schemes.

Yes whistleblowers may not make it to 30 yrs of age in this field.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Bluethroughu

(5,988 posts)
18. Nothing will get between billionaires and their money.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:10 PM
Dec 13

No person
No country
No soul.

We will see more Luigis and their guns.

The billionaires are not having a good week, they might want to move to Russia with the Assad family.

PSPS

(14,194 posts)
19. AI is nothing more than a giant plagiarism machine
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:43 PM
Dec 13

When you have this many billions of dollars from techbros and naive investors tied up in a scam this big, it isn't wise to get in the way.

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