Now I suppose he'll go on tour like Kyle Rottenhouse?

as to be almost imperceptible.
I really don't know a lot about the character of this man, Perry (and neither do a lot of the rest of us at this time) - and genuinely hope that he doesn't turn out to be the low functioning retrograge cosplayer that was Rittenhouse. But currently we have no reason to think that the case.

(kinda like Paul Whelan, but at least of "good character&quot and was a vigilante. Isn't that enough for you? He's probably also a RepubliKKKan with that track record.

But the circumstances and actions undertaken bear no resemblance at all.

Bernard Goetz - ‘A shock to the system’: looking back on the 1984 New York subway shooting

Floyd's case was more egregious, but it's the same concept. A man is restrained. It isn't necessary to choke him to death.

If a white man was harassing and threatening a group of black homeless men, and one of those black homeless men took him down and killed him in a similar manner - does anyone believe for a heartbeat he'd be exonerated?

...because he murdered somebody that society looks down on.

Maybe you didn't follow this case.

you're starting off really wrong footed on this one.

That's murder to me.

attacking people and acting cray-cray? i do not think this guy is a willful murderer.

but not choke him to death.

the jury finally just got tired and said, " Screw it. Not doing it. "

My own take here is ambivalent coming from several different directions ... pretty clearly there was no intent to kill here (or really even do harm?) Simply an attempt to restrain and remove? On the other hand .. vigilantism should not be condoned, and this was clearly an assault. On the third hand .. is this kind of intervention sometimes necessary to protect the public? And finally .. there is the question of why the public should be subjected to menacing behavior in their everyday lives .. and who bears the responsibility there .. ?

Seems the intent was more to detain, as a couple other passengers also assisted. A true "choke hold" wouldn't have taken over 6 minutes to work, as Neely still had a pulse when 1st responders arrived. I believe narcotics probably played a big part in this, also.

Trump pardons him on day one.

After initially charging him with murder and jailing him in Rikers, Bragg decided it would be better to drop the charges.

know what you're doing to them. You are choking them. Says it right there in the description. Nobody survives being relentlessly choked for any real length of time. Usually a couple of minutes tops. He knew he was killing him.

Rest in Power Jordan Neely

I think we know that the result would have been much different. Penny would be on his way to prison. Unfortunately we still have a long way to go to solve racial injustice in this country.

Would be much more unified in pointing out that Neely was a threat and that people have a right to ride public transportation without being accosted- and that NYC transit in particular has had some really scary incidents in recent years that justify people being wary. Penny would probably be called a citizen hero.

there are plenty of black marines and plenty of crazy white people, and if the situation were reversed, we have no basis to claim the result would be different except to feed our own preconceptions.

and Samaritans must act. Indifference and inaction are not always an option. In this case an inexperienced young 'hero' applied too much force. The jury weighed the case and decided he acted in good faith. Did he stop the dangerous crazy guy? Yes. Were other passengers protected by his actions? Yes. So, what else is there to consider?

The jury that spent a great deal of time on it.

I trust the jury.