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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,480 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 04:34 PM Dec 8

Trump calls for immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and says a US withdrawal from NATO is possible

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump on Sunday pushed Russian leader Vladimir Putin to act to reach an immediate ceasefire with Ukraine, describing it as part of his active efforts as president-elect to end the war despite being weeks from taking office.

“Zelensky and Ukraine would like to make a deal and stop the madness," Trump wrote on social media, referring to Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

In a television interview that aired Sunday, Trump also said he would be open to reducing military aid to Ukraine and pulling the United States out of NATO. Those are two threats that have alarmed Ukraine, NATO allies and many in the U.S. national security community.

Asked on NBC's “Meet the Press” if he were actively working to end the nearly 3-year-old Ukraine war, Trump said, “I am.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-immediate-ceasefire-ukraine-120208132.html



Did Zelensky really say that or are you talking through your ass again Donny? I can imagine Pooty Poot's response isn't too kind.

Have you listened to the shit they're saying about you?
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Trump calls for immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and says a US withdrawal from NATO is possible (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 8 OP
Lots of people voted for him for this reason. they believe the money saved not supporting other mucifer Dec 8 #1
He alone cannot withdraw from NATO. Thx to President Biden, it now takes 2/3 of the senate and the house PortTack Dec 8 #2
Trump does not have to formally withdraw from NATO. speak easy Dec 8 #7
Wouldn't Trump be able to stay in NATO and just command the US military to do nothing? It is not clear that he needs... xocetaceans Dec 8 #8
That would be an impeachable offense angrychair Dec 8 #11
Yeah, good luck with that Polybius Dec 8 #13
Maybe not angrychair Dec 8 #14
Yes, but republicans want to shred the constitution vapor2 Dec 9 #16
lol. travelingthrulife Dec 10 #21
Putin: Thanks, sucker! sakabatou Dec 8 #3
A dead democracy and the rise of a totalitarian fascist state, sham elections have consequences. nt yaesu Dec 8 #4
Gotta pay Putin back for his cyber ninja electron tractor beams w/ megapixels that he and .... Botany Dec 8 #5
Asked ...if he were actively working to end the nearly 3-year-old Ukraine war, Trump said, "I am." LudwigPastorius Dec 8 #6
Why does a "President-elect" have anything to do with the pursuit of US foreign policy? The President and the rest of... xocetaceans Dec 8 #9
"... How is it legal for trump to be involved... ?" IcyPeas Dec 8 #12
I don't hear anyone either, but President Biden isn't exactly powerless unless he has chosen to be so. n/t xocetaceans Dec 9 #15
LOL..."How is it legal for Trump" radicalleft Dec 9 #17
Interesting meme. Do you have anything to say beyond that? n/t xocetaceans Dec 10 #18
Well sure if you insist radicalleft Dec 10 #19
Fair enough.... n/t xocetaceans Dec 12 #22
Just a fucking citizen currently, STFU Evolve Dammit Dec 8 #10
I'd forgotten how much I'd hated Blue_Tires Dec 10 #20

mucifer

(24,931 posts)
1. Lots of people voted for him for this reason. they believe the money saved not supporting other
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 04:41 PM
Dec 8

countries will come back to us. It won't.

PortTack

(34,830 posts)
2. He alone cannot withdraw from NATO. Thx to President Biden, it now takes 2/3 of the senate and the house
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:05 PM
Dec 8

To withdraw from NATO.

speak easy

(10,701 posts)
7. Trump does not have to formally withdraw from NATO.
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:07 PM
Dec 8

He only needs to say he may not be bound by Article 5, and withdraw from NATO's integrated military command as France did in 1966.

xocetaceans

(3,983 posts)
8. Wouldn't Trump be able to stay in NATO and just command the US military to do nothing? It is not clear that he needs...
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:20 PM
Dec 8

...to withdraw from NATO to minimize any US involvement in any conflict.

angrychair

(9,889 posts)
11. That would be an impeachable offense
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:38 PM
Dec 8

Last edited Sun Dec 8, 2024, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Failing to met his treaty obligations would fall into a violation of his oath of office as he is bound to adhere to the Constitution.

Polybius

(18,360 posts)
13. Yeah, good luck with that
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 08:58 PM
Dec 8

You'll never find 67 Senators that will vote to convict, nor will Johnson take it up in the House.

angrychair

(9,889 posts)
14. Maybe not
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 09:39 PM
Dec 8

But Republicans are not a monolith and for many leaving our NATO allies vulnerable is a bridge to far even for them.
Not saying enough to get a conviction but if Johnson cannot cover for trump if enough Republicans and people become so disgusted they are forced to act.
He is a lame duck. They have to run for reelection.

vapor2

(1,632 posts)
16. Yes, but republicans want to shred the constitution
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 02:24 PM
Dec 9

and he's making freaking demands when he's not even sworn in yet!!

yaesu

(8,356 posts)
4. A dead democracy and the rise of a totalitarian fascist state, sham elections have consequences. nt
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:31 PM
Dec 8

Botany

(72,660 posts)
5. Gotta pay Putin back for his cyber ninja electron tractor beams w/ megapixels that he and ....
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:48 PM
Dec 8

…… Musk used to rig the election via cyborgs flying on star link.

LudwigPastorius

(11,072 posts)
6. Asked ...if he were actively working to end the nearly 3-year-old Ukraine war, Trump said, "I am."
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:05 PM
Dec 8

Only if by "actively working" you mean tweeting while on the shitter.

xocetaceans

(3,983 posts)
9. Why does a "President-elect" have anything to do with the pursuit of US foreign policy? The President and the rest of...
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:23 PM
Dec 8

...the Biden Administration is responsible for that at present. How is it legal for Trump to be involved at this point at all?

Of course, that leaves out the fact that Trump is an insurrectionist and has no right to take office under the US Constitution.

IcyPeas

(22,749 posts)
12. "... How is it legal for trump to be involved... ?"
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 08:52 PM
Dec 8

Well, who's going to stop him? I'm not hearing anyone.

xocetaceans

(3,983 posts)
15. I don't hear anyone either, but President Biden isn't exactly powerless unless he has chosen to be so. n/t
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 02:14 PM
Dec 9

radicalleft

(510 posts)
19. Well sure if you insist
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:09 PM
Dec 10

I find it amusing that you think anything tRump does would have ANY legal ramifications. Like...hello...is this your first day on the job?

Blue_Tires

(56,730 posts)
20. I'd forgotten how much I'd hated
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:20 PM
Dec 10

U.S. foreign and domestic policy done by "decree on social media"...

But this is the collective intelligence level of America now...

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