And any democrat who says anything about trump being pardoned. That is a bridge too far.

I truly suspect like his personality or intelligence was affected a bit.

I don't think what he's saying now is his true nature, but rather his post-accident reality..

This zombie was teetering on the fake-D edge for quite a while now.
Now we see what a lamebrain he really is.
Call Connor Lamb for a primary challenge!!

This isn't the first time he's said something off-the-wall.

I was thrilled he beat dr. oz but could never truly respect him.

Trump had the chance to try for a plea deal and opted for a trial clearly and lost.
Hunter opted to take a plea deal but the deal was then rescinded because of political pressure with the intent not to seek justice but to try and hurt Joe Biden.

Disappointing.

So he's gonna be with us for a while. Maybe we should work constructively with the guy and his mental condition for that time?

Keep in mind he narrowly replaced a Republican in a highly contested race that MAGATs pumped a lot of $$$ into. We need to bear in mind that not every state has a cushy Democratic majority and can afford to have the political rhetoric dialed to 11 at all times.

It's illustrative of the schizoid nature of the state. But now that McCormick ousted Casey, balance has been restored.

-- Mal

Either way, pardoning Trump is a ridiculous suggestion. Fuck that.

And I would rather go independent than be in the party if we're going to cave and become feckless to the Cheeto-crusted Monster. I live in PA and had the dishonorable mention of voting for Fetterman, when he was an upfront, self-labelled Progressive. Before he became a DC-established liar. I remember backing him through his period after he had the stroke, hoping he beat Dr OZ. Now, I'd rather vote for a fish than reelect that lying fool. If he thinks the Republicans are going vote for a Republican-lite double-talker he's got another thing coming.

What a nutty take on the situation.

Oh poor T he rapes women
Oh poor T he stole secrets
Oh poor T his insurrection failed
Oh poor T his scrotus gave him Divine power
Oh poor T he incites his rabble

Bragg indicted Trump for falsifying business records, a common prosecution in NYC. It was unique in that the charge was upgraded to a felony by tying it to election interference. I don't recall Fetterman calling the indictment and subsequent trial "political" at the time they were happening or after their conclusion.

In contrast, Hunter Biden was indicted and prosecuted for crimes that rarely are. He admitted to cheating on his taxes and paid what he owed back plus interest. When charges are brought against a person for a crime that is rarely enforced and for a tax evasion case that was already resolved, an end other than justice is being served. Biden and his attys worked out a plea deal that subsequently was derailed.

To summarize, one person was indicted on a commonly prosecuted charge in the city where he lived and did business for many year, by an elected DA. Another person was indicted on a rare charge and a resolved crime by an unelected special counsel of the opposition party.

As for Fetterman, I have my doubts whether he'll even run for relection in 2028. From all that I've read he doesn't really like the senate. But, he has also voted with Dems almost, if not, all the time. Gisele Fetternan, otoh, would make a great senator.

I am very disappointed now, and I am just sick about it. I never expected this.

at this absurd position Fetterman has taken. He has been 'out-of-sorts' lately on many issues......

If you asked this same question to just about any W Pa native, you'd get the same answer. Walking contradictions abound here and "hot takes" (gut reactions) rather than critical thinking are becoming endemic. I doubt Fetterman could actually explain why he thinks what he said. I could be wrong, but he doesn't strike me as a particularly deep thinker despite also striking me as an introvert, who, imho, tend to be introspective and thoughtful.

Fetterman is what he is. As long as he votes with Dems, he can say what he wants.

n/t

100% wrong.

Talk about a guy who's overstayed his welcome...

“The same thing was done with Trump with the New York case. And that was bullshit too,”

Sounds to me like Mr. Fetterman is attempting to shield himself from Stump's AG retribution tour. Saying Stump deserves a pardon just might get him off Stump and AG Bondo's enemies list. Mika and Joe anyone?

But John has turned out to be all mouth and no action. There may be many reasons for this, but making an occasional snide remark in the Senate does not a Senator make. At least, not a worthy one.

-- Mal

My post i

There are rules and then there are "rules."

I think Fetterman has earned better than this but I ain't gonna bother reporting it as the community has clearly spoken.

Trump has skated.

Hunter Biden didn’t try to take down the U.S. Government.

Is Fetterman scared that voters in Pennsylvania are going to try and keep the state red, and toss him out, next time around?

trump would never accept a pardon. If you accept a pardon, you must admit to guilt, and trump would never admit guilt to anything. A political ploy could be offering a pardon for President Biden, if trump rejects, then Dems can g on to MAGATs and say , see… we offered, but….and if no pardon is offered so be it. Some other things…. Hunter Biden was a fed case, trumps guilty verdict case is New York State case.

SMH

Needs to sit down and put a rock in his mouth. They are using him to troll us. He needs a case of shut the f up.

46 months and counting

Come on, I'm not a lawyer, and even I know that one!

Much less, act like one...

the fascists. Fuck that.

... I liked John, but his stint in the Senate has not been good for him. Best he find other employment.

-- Mal

...because, the idea that Trump "deserves" a pardon because it was an unfair prosecution is absolutely nutty.

The man deserves jail time for his convictions and for so much more. He is a traitor to the country. We all saw him incite a mob to storm the Capitol building in an attempt to overthrow election results. We all saw FBI photographs of highly classified documents stolen from the White House in a Mar a Lago bathroom.

No, Senator Fetterman, you are either cognitively impaired or you are pandering to curry favor from Trump and his supporters.

Who needs that noise?

... their crimes and their positions are so different... of course, Hunter was never President and prompted no insurrections. The one thing they have in common is nonpayment of taxes. Hunter paid up... crooked Donald did not. Hunter admitted he was using drugs at the time he bought a gun... crooked Donald denies attacking and raping women. I think it's clear that Donald doesn't qualify for a pardon, for many more crimes than Hunter.

pro right-wing comes out. He has quickly become a great disappointment to me and I don't even live in PA.

No such thing as a little (small) STROKE

... the trial is NOT politically motivated. It's motivated by a desire to prosecute criminals.

Fetterman was saying the NY trial was politically motivated.

I know he's a Democrat, but he has gone off the rails!

Is he serious?

Do not obey in advance!!!

Going 104 MPH.

He is reckless.