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BumRushDaShow

(144,279 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 08:52 AM Nov 23

Fearing deportation, some Haitian migrants leaving Springfield, Ohio

Source: CBS News

November 22, 2024 / 9:17 PM EST


Springfield, Ohio — Ketlie Moise fled unspeakable violence in her homeland of Haiti hoping to find peace and a slice of the American dream, settling in Springfield, Ohio. "I stay here," Moise told CBS News. "I do two jobs to make my business. That's why I don't go back to Haiti." Moise saved money for years and recently opened a restaurant. She is one of the thousands of Haitian migrants building a life in Springfield who now find themselves in the crosshairs of the incoming Trump administration.

About 12,000 to 15,000 Haitians reside in the Springfield area, according to city estimates. It was during President-elect Donald Trump's Sept. 10 debate with Vice President Kamala Harris that Springfield came to forefront, when Trump repeated false and debunked claims about the Haitian migrants living there. Local officials have said there are no credible reports to back up such allegations. Trump made the issue of mass deportations a major pillar of his presidential campaign.

"We're going to have the largest deportation in the history of our country, and we're going to start with Springfield and Aurora," Trump told reporters on Sept. 13, referring to Aurora, Colorado, another city Trump has attempted to spotlight. He announced last week would be tapping Tom Homan — who served as acting director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement during his first term — as his so-called "border czar" to oversee that process.

Moise, like most fellow Haitians in Springfield, is here legally through Temporary Protected Status, which Trump has vowed to end. The TPS program allows federal officials to grant deportation relief and work authorization to migrants from countries beset by war, environmental disaster or another "extraordinary" crisis.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fearing-deportation-some-haitian-migrants-leaving-springfield-ohio/

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tulipsandroses

(6,242 posts)
1. If I hear one more excuse from anyone about how we misunderstood trump voters, I am going to vomit
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 08:57 AM
Nov 23

Everyone that voted for trump, knew what they were getting. If you tell me it was the economy, I am calling Bullshit.
It was bigotry, selfishness, hate, lack of morals and lack of character and unpatriotic.

paleotn

(19,539 posts)
3. It's never one thing or another. That's pigeon holing, and humans, even bad ones by our standards, don't act that way
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 09:54 AM
Nov 23

For many, it's a gut level balancing of perceived good and bad, and then making a choice. Many times on bad information. Many times based on their own prejudice. Prejudice that varies person to person, even among us, and drives what we perceive. Some actually are evil by our definition and hate drives them more than anything, but that's certainly not true for all who voted Trump. It's soft, social science, so it's complicated and messy.

Simple and easy to divide people into two nice, neat boxes. Human nature to do so and I do it all the time. Certainly feels good to lump every single one of Trump's voters into the Abject Evil box. But that's neither factual or useful. Outside of physics, the natural world, that we are very much a part of, does continuums. It doesn't do digital. Certainly true for anything to do with the psychology and sociology of humans.

So was it hate, racism, misogyny, economic angst, the moon is in the seventh house or whatever? The answer is yes. To varying degrees. Depending on who you ask and how you ask.

Lonestarblue

(11,983 posts)
2. And once the Haitians all leave, Springfield will go back to the dying town it was before they arrived.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 09:52 AM
Nov 23

When all their young people move to a bigger city to find work, Republicans who voted for Trump to deport the Haitians will blame Democrats for their failing city and loss of jobs.

One thing media could do that it never does is a true analysis of federal programs. Here are the promises and goals of a piece of legislation. A year later, here is what has happened, including both the intended and unintended effects. A rational cause-effect analysis of most federal legislation would be of great benefit to voters. As a good example, the media rarely reported the effects of Trump’s 2017 tax cut. Occasionally an article would mention that in added several trillions to the federal debt. What about the jobs promised? What about the actual tax savings for the muddle class and poor? How much of the benefit went to different groups of people?

Such analyses take time and effort, which us shat reporters used to do. Now they just rehash whatever Trump says and call it done.

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