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BumRushDaShow

(144,258 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:12 PM Nov 18

Trump's pick for fracker-in-chief will have a tough time pumping a lot more oil

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Source: CNN Business

Updated 10:06 AM EST, Mon November 18, 2024


CNN — President-elect Donald Trump may find the road to cheaper gas prices is a little rocky. “Frack, frack, frack and drill, baby, drill,” Trump said at an October rally. Trump has said he wants to lower gas prices — which currently average $3.07 per gallon — to below $2 a gallon.

On Saturday, he tapped fracking proponent Chris Wright, the CEO of Denver-based Liberty Energy, to serve as the secretary of energy. Wright is among the industry’s most vocal supporters of fracking oil and natural gas and has said the world is not in the midst of an energy transition. But the American oil industry is already booming and increasing output doesn’t mean gas prices will drop.

The United States produces more than 13.4 million barrels of oil each day and oil production is projected to increase to an estimated 13.6 million by the end of 2025 — the most oil produced by any country ever, according to the US Energy Information Administration.

That record is “unlikely to be broken,” the EIA reports, because no other country has come close to 13 million barrels per day. US output has been so strong that it has sent supplies overseas — exporting the same amount of crude oil, refined products and natural gas liquids as Saudi Arabia or Russia produces, according to a report published in December 2023 by S&P Global Commodity Insights.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/18/business/trump-fracking-oil-demand/index.html



This is more proof of so-called "journalism" and their failure. The U.S. has been cranking out a record amount of oil, literally for a whole year straight. And it was tacitly reported by the business/energy media but not the M$ media covering the election and magnifying the GOP lies. And so now here we are at a "Hmmm.... oh by the way...".

Biden BROKE OPEC and OPEC+ and if OPEC/OPEC+ wants, they could crank it up enough to put ALL of those U.S. frackers out of business due to what price is needed to "break even", and sustain the more expensive fracking process. And the bigger issue that actually impacts gasoline, points to the refineries (and lack thereof).
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Trump's pick for fracker-in-chief will have a tough time pumping a lot more oil (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 18 OP
Fracking never lowered the price of gas where I live. All it did was cause earthquakes in Kansas. Bengus81 Nov 18 #1
Oh there were "swarms" of quakes in multiple states BumRushDaShow Nov 18 #2
Now NM is 2nd in production after Texas womanofthehills Nov 18 #3
Catch 22 for NM womanofthehills Nov 18 #4
Senate Democrats are begging the administration to put roadblocks in front of LNG export expansion FBaggins Nov 18 #5
In general BumRushDaShow Nov 18 #6
Supply and demand both influence prices - but they are not the same thing FBaggins Nov 18 #7
That purported "debate" BumRushDaShow Nov 18 #10
Right the last time gas was around 2 bucks a gallon AssFuck screamed we have to save our "beautiful oil companies"! Cheezoholic Nov 18 #8
Oil solution Darkshard Nov 18 #9
Um no. BumRushDaShow Nov 18 #11
AFTER a review by forum hosts LOCKING Omaha Steve Nov 18 #12

Bengus81

(7,497 posts)
1. Fracking never lowered the price of gas where I live. All it did was cause earthquakes in Kansas.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:33 PM
Nov 18

Of course our super idiot Governor Sam Brownback at the time said there was no real evidence of earthquakes because of fracking. Hmmm...they started during massive amounts of fracking in Oklahoma and stopped when the fracking stopped.

Sounds like PROOF to me Sam..........

BumRushDaShow

(144,258 posts)
2. Oh there were "swarms" of quakes in multiple states
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:50 PM
Nov 18

where fracking was happening - I recall Ohio was another that had them - Confirmed: Fracking practices to blame for Ohio earthquakes

I haven't heard much recently about quakes although it's possible they have done better imaging of the areas where they are pumping the waste water and avoiding old faults that can trigger quakes. Oklahoma had them too but apparently saw what was happening and shut those sites down.

womanofthehills

(9,336 posts)
3. Now NM is 2nd in production after Texas
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:53 PM
Nov 18

Looks like our EPA relaxed some fracking rules.

So now NM has way more money for their budget and schools - but way higher levels of ozone.

Agree- we have plenty for us so oil industry is making big bucks exporting.

womanofthehills

(9,336 posts)
4. Catch 22 for NM
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:54 PM
Nov 18

Pollution vs money for schools.

FBaggins

(27,803 posts)
5. Senate Democrats are begging the administration to put roadblocks in front of LNG export expansion
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:54 PM
Nov 18

You think they're just wasting their time?

Or the expanding oil export facilities the administration gave the green light to earlier this year?

BumRushDaShow

(144,258 posts)
6. In general
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:15 PM
Nov 18

we were making up the difference for Europe when the Nordstream pipelines between Russia and Germany, were restricted or shut down due to the Ukraine War.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61483



So some of this might depend on where Europe is with their replacement fuels.

FBaggins

(27,803 posts)
7. Supply and demand both influence prices - but they are not the same thing
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:37 PM
Nov 18

The debate in this case is our ability to significantly expand production from current levels.

The fact that the industry is trying to expand their export capacity hints that they think they can produce and sell more profitably

BumRushDaShow

(144,258 posts)
10. That purported "debate"
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:02 PM
Nov 18

is typical bloviating nonsense from the GOP with the "drill baby drill" retro crap.

There have been numerous court rulings over the past 5 years (I have been posting this stuff in LBN) with respect to the leases, so there would be more coming on line in the future...

But at this point, we apparently have enough capacity and then some - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143255368

They did recently ratchet it back some though - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143288763

The variables are again with Russia and Saudi and OPEC+ (notably) and what they decide to do with their production. Some of us remember this - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213319463



The "cuts" that they agreed to (now expanded into 2025) in order to loft the bbl price closer to $100 didn't quite work out thanks to the U.S. record production. And at this point, it is doubtful that Europe will go back to Russian-sourced oil/LNG, so we might end up being "it" (thus getting export facilities up and running).

Cheezoholic

(2,647 posts)
8. Right the last time gas was around 2 bucks a gallon AssFuck screamed we have to save our "beautiful oil companies"!
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:38 PM
Nov 18

Supposedly OPEC is going to re-open those taps next month and dump on a market already at max supply vs demand so AssFuck won't have to do anything to get oil below 50-60 a barrel and start whining again and blaming Biden for CHEAP GAS! lol. And when that oil hits the weak market possibly right along with AssFucks insane economic strategy, well recipe for a depression IMO.

Darkshard

(2 posts)
9. Oil solution
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:47 PM
Nov 18

They are going to lift the embargo on Russian oil, then make record deals to import it.
The flood of cheap Russian oil will cause prices to drop.
Problem solved.

Of course Russia will then use that money to buy Chinese weapons to give to the North Korean troops to fight in Ukraine.
Because the US is the only barrier to both Russian Oil exports and sales of arms to Russia. Trump will end both on day one.

BumRushDaShow

(144,258 posts)
11. Um no.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:15 PM
Nov 18

The frackers need (on average to account for existing and/or new wells) at least $50/bbl price to maintain their "break even" - https://www.statista.com/statistics/748207/breakeven-prices-for-us-oil-producers-by-oilfield/



The price of crude is not completely correlated to the eventual price of GASOLINE (which is refined product). There needs to be more refineries constructed and/or brought back online.

Omaha Steve

(103,796 posts)
12. AFTER a review by forum hosts LOCKING
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:52 PM
Nov 18

PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS What might happen.

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