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BumRushDaShow

(144,258 posts) Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:43 AM Nov 18

Trump demands investigation of pollster who showed Iowa lead for Kamala Harris

Source: USA Today

Published 8:04 p.m. ET Nov. 17, 2024

WASHINGTON - President-elect Donald Trump on Sunday called for the investigation of an Iowa pollster over a bombshell pre-election survey that showed Vice President Kamala Harris leading in the deep red state. In a post on his Truth Social platform, Trump blasted the Nov. 1 poll results for causing "great distrust and uncertainty at a very critical time."

"She knew exactly what she was doing," Trump wrote of pollster J. Ann Selzer, 68, who announced her departure from political polling on Sunday.

Trump defeated Harris in Iowa by 13 points, 56% to 42.7%. But in the waning days of a pressure cooker campaign, Selzer's poll for the Des Moines Register, part of the USA TODAY Network, outraged the GOP and gave Democrats false hope ahead of what turned out to be a national Republican rout.

Trump on Sunday described the poll as "possible ELECTION FRAUD by Ann Selzer and the now discredited 'newspaper' for which she works," adding, "An investigation is fully called for!" Survey errors aren't known to violate criminal statutes. Asked if Trump was calling for a criminal investigation of the pollster, spokesman Steven Cheung replied: "President Trump was very clear in his Truth Social post."

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/17/trump-investigation-ann-selzer-iowa-poll-kamala-harris/76389559007/

Stochastic terrorism.

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Trump demands investigation of pollster who showed Iowa lead for Kamala Harris (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 18 OP

He's nuts and evil but it is still a curious question-- what happened there? LymphocyteLover Nov 18 #1

She was accurate and the fix was in! End of story. Botany Nov 18 #3

I hope someone can find some damn proof! LymphocyteLover Nov 18 #14

Pretty soon, everyone will be afraid kerouac2 Nov 18 #2

She already did on Sunday. n/t Hugin Nov 18 #12

Yep Demovictory9 Nov 18 #16

"National Republican Rout" Strelnikov_ Nov 18 #4

She needs to find a way to sue him....hes trying to ruin the reputation of Karadeniz Nov 18 #5

She cannot sue him. He is POTUS and immune from everything. Irish_Dem Nov 18 #7

Of course she can sue him. onenote Nov 18 #15

She missed it by 16 points MichMan Nov 18 #11

Trump knows the pollster was 100% accurate. Irish_Dem Nov 18 #6

That's how I read it, too. dchill Nov 18 #8

She has the statistical proof that the election was stolen. Irish_Dem Nov 18 #9

I remember the absolute tantrum Donnie threw on Truth Social when that poll was out Blue_Tires Nov 18 #18

Well, she just quit as a pollster, but said her "decision predated the erroneous results"... PunkinPi Nov 18 #10

Her life and career are on the line. Irish_Dem Nov 18 #19

Fascist Theory of Justice: Opposing the state is a crime; the state has total immunity William Seger Nov 18 #13

Sure, let's do a recount while we're at it. nt returnee Nov 18 #17

We're to the point where King Donnie is literally making up Blue_Tires Nov 18 #20

What a miserable little cry baby brat JustAnotherGen Nov 18 #21

Why? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 18 #22

In the end, what the hell does it matter? Katinfl Nov 18 #23

LymphocyteLover

(6,983 posts)

1. He's nuts and evil but it is still a curious question-- what happened there?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:50 AM

Nov 18

Did she make a bad assumption in her methodology? Normally she's very reliable.

Or was she accurate and this was done before the fix was in?

Botany

(72,666 posts)

3. She was accurate and the fix was in! End of story.

Reply to LymphocyteLover (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:16 AM

Nov 18

That election was as honest and real as the snow on a Hallmark Christmas show.*

Very soon the truth will be treated like the fact that Hitler’s grandmother was Jewish
but if you said so you were in a world of hurt.

* In my fucked up mind this was the dirtiest election ever and Harris probably won in
a landslide.

LymphocyteLover

(6,983 posts)

14. I hope someone can find some damn proof!

Reply to Botany (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:41 AM

Nov 18

kerouac2

(746 posts)

2. Pretty soon, everyone will be afraid

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:57 AM

Nov 18

To say or do anything that doesn't support him for fear of investigation. Pollsters, media, judges, you name it. This is how he controls elected officials. This is how he keeps those he has assaulted from speaking out. Wouldn't be surprised if this iowa pollster retires.

Hugin

(34,753 posts)

12. She already did on Sunday. n/t

Reply to kerouac2 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:33 AM

Nov 18

Demovictory9

(33,968 posts)

16. Yep

Reply to kerouac2 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:16 AM

Nov 18

Strelnikov_

(7,843 posts)

4. "National Republican Rout"

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:26 AM

Nov 18

Not quite.

Karadeniz

(23,553 posts)

5. She needs to find a way to sue him....hes trying to ruin the reputation of

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:41 AM

Nov 18

someone who published her methodology, that
method has a history of accuracy.

Irish_Dem

(59,739 posts)

7. She cannot sue him. He is POTUS and immune from everything.

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:47 AM

Nov 18

The most she can hope for is to stay alive and find work in another profession.

onenote

(44,807 posts)

15. Of course she can sue him.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:58 AM

Nov 18

He doesn't have immunity for things he does before he was president.
But its not clear what she would sue him for.

MichMan

(13,562 posts)

11. She missed it by 16 points

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:31 AM

Nov 18

Irish_Dem

(59,739 posts)

6. Trump knows the pollster was 100% accurate.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:46 AM

Nov 18

She of all people knows the election was rigged.
He must destroy her.

dchill

(40,768 posts)

8. That's how I read it, too.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:17 AM

Nov 18

Irish_Dem

(59,739 posts)

9. She has the statistical proof that the election was stolen.

Reply to dchill (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:18 AM

Nov 18

He must destroy and discredit her and fast.

Blue_Tires

(56,752 posts)

18. I remember the absolute tantrum Donnie threw on Truth Social when that poll was out

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:06 PM

Nov 18

so that's how I know it was real...

And I'm still waiting to hear any explanation how a reliable and reputable pollster was SIXTEEN(!) percentage points off the mark ten days before the election...