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moonshinegnomie

(4,186 posts)
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:07 PM Sunday

the us should be banned form the world cup

the orange moron called the head of FIFA and had the suspension of the us star "suspended" for a year.
Under FIFA rules any political influence means the team gets banned

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the us should be banned form the world cup (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Sunday OP
Careful, FIFA.... Blue Owl Sunday #1
Everything he touches, gets ruined. C Moon Sunday #45
You don't know much about FIFA do you sarisataka Sunday #48
Oh. I don't know much at all about. Pretty much nothing. C Moon Sunday #59
It is the beautiful game sarisataka Sunday #60
What I'd like to know is: oberle Sunday #65
I would say the similar about basketball sarisataka Sunday #67
Would anyone watch basketball if the players only shot the ball ten times a game? MichMan Yesterday #84
What is the hitting percentage in baseball? sarisataka Yesterday #96
A .300 batting average was always the standard MichMan Yesterday #119
Baseball may be the second most popular sport sarisataka Yesterday #120
It would probably be different without a shot clock AZProgressive Yesterday #122
If one knows the history of the shot clock that is a good comparison sarisataka Yesterday #123
Or American football Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #109
American football mcar Sunday #69
I like American football, however kairos12 Yesterday #80
And steroids. peppertree 23 hrs ago #128
I can't stand the fake diving from ALL the players. ... aggiesal 23 hrs ago #129
According to my serious international soccer friends popsdenver 22 hrs ago #131
does not say much about fifa either rampartd Sunday #2
Well, fifa is one of the most corrupt organizations around. Why niyad Sunday #43
If that happened they should be banned - effin madness malaise Sunday #3
I thought it was a ridiculous call.... SergeStorms Yesterday #103
Football is the most popular sport on the planet malaise Yesterday #104
Agreed. SergeStorms Yesterday #116
Should Portugal be banned? mcar Sunday #4
under fifa rules moonshinegnomie Sunday #5
Not the USMNT's fault mcar Sunday #20
Go Belgium rpannier Sunday #33
Ga ga Belgie! AllyCat Sunday #42
I have to agree..the odds of defeating. thomski64 Sunday #44
Remember the US Men's Olympic Hockey Team The Grand Illuminist Yesterday #85
That circumstance will remain purely hypothetical: on an outside chance, the US might just be able to defeat . . . xocetaceans 22 hrs ago #130
Sure. Rooting against America is a great move. Happy Hoosier Sunday #47
You can root for the US and I will be cheering on Belgium rpannier Sunday #49
Do what you want... Happy Hoosier Sunday #52
That's a poor attitude The Revolution Sunday #73
Oh, Balogun's the "anchor baby" star. I didn't know Ilsa Sunday #77
If you say so rpannier Yesterday #83
This struck me too. BlueMTexpat Yesterday #93
How special BuddhaGirl Yesterday #99
They are cheating. Right? Don't you feel this is cheating? AllyCat Sunday #57
No. The red card was bullshit... Happy Hoosier Yesterday #82
Exactly! BuddhaGirl Yesterday #100
Zero chance of this awesomerwb1 Yesterday #121
Trump is despicable TeamUSA is adorable! oasis Sunday #68
Yes! mcar Sunday #70
Go USA! BuddhaGirl Yesterday #98
Your point about Ronaldo is valid. Your assertion about Messi is not. ColoringFool Sunday #50
'K mcar Sunday #56
Correct answer... JCMach1 Yesterday #110
Actually there should not be a red card. Let the players sort things out themselves. Srkdqltr Sunday #6
Nope. WestMichRad Sunday #17
This clearly was not intentional. Happy Hoosier Sunday #25
Okay, that may be true. WestMichRad Sunday #39
It is unusual but not unique sarisataka Sunday #7
from what ive read multi game suspensiosn are appelable but not one game ones for a rd card moonshinegnomie Sunday #10
The red card is not open to appeal sarisataka Sunday #16
Why? It's not their fault they got a bogus call mcar Sunday #21
I'm glad it was reversed. Manatee Sunday #8
it may ahve been but under the rules he should still be suspended moonshinegnomie Sunday #12
He was suspended but they suspended the suspension and gave him probation Ponietz Yesterday #105
Go Belgium rpannier Sunday #32
If the US wins now it will be tainted. mtngirl47 Sunday #9
you obviously haven't been paying attention JCMach1 Yesterday #112
Trump ruined it. ColoringFool 20 hrs ago #135
Do you have proof of this? That's not what I have Melon Sunday #11
from ESPN moonshinegnomie Sunday #13
and furthermore moonshinegnomie Sunday #14
That's the second piece of bad info you've posted Melon Sunday #26
See below. Melon Sunday #27
Ronaldo's wasn't in the tournament it was a qualifier moonshinegnomie Sunday #38
Fuck FIFA. ,Fuck Trump. It's too bad, but the US team will now be thought of as an illegitimate competitor by many. Whyisthisstillclose Sunday #15
Go Belgium rpannier Sunday #31
Post removed Post removed Sunday #54
????????? WTF? Whyisthisstillclose Sunday #55
LOL Skittles Yesterday #79
I'm shocked, shocked to find tampering going on in a FIFA event!!!1!!1111! WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #18
Right? mcar Sunday #22
If you can't trust FIFA... sarisataka Sunday #23
FIFA is corrupt! BidenRocks Sunday #19
FIFA's reputation *was* able to get worse Tasmanian Devil Sunday #24
Lots of folks, myself included... Happy Hoosier Sunday #29
I found myself wondering if there may not have been some subtle... 3catwoman3 Yesterday #81
He should have screwed with Norway then. dem4decades Yesterday #88
FIFA has a long history of corruption....and the beat goes on. ☮ walkingman Sunday #28
fifa should be banned from the world cup rpannier Sunday #30
Who do you think runs the World Cup? It's literally the FIFA World Cup. onenote Sunday #41
I know who runs the World Cup rpannier Sunday #46
LOL. Expecting FIFA to do anything less than maximally corrupt and utterly shamelessly too. RockRaven Sunday #34
If I were the US coach I'd bench the player with the red card for one match. I'd catch hell, but that's how MLAA Sunday #35
The head of FIFA should be nowhere near any sport. Buddyzbuddy Sunday #36
I didn't see the violation but I have read opinions from viewers (including non-Americans) FakeNoose Sunday #37
There is such a process sarisataka Sunday #40
At least in the World Cup mcar Sunday #71
I have some pretty serious questions Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #114
It's been middling, to say the least mcar Yesterday #115
We have all experienced questionable calls and nobody else is running to the head of FIFA Bev54 Yesterday #89
They will be sent packing in due course Prairie Gates Sunday #51
Why would you want the USMNT to be humiliated? mcar Sunday #72
If they had any integrity, they would not accept the interference. Bev54 Yesterday #91
US Team rso Sunday #53
Politics and sport don't make a good mix. Aussie105 Sunday #58
I agree that the red card was a bad call, but the president of a country has no business weighing in on something like Karasu Sunday #61
If I was the referee I probably wouldn't have shown even a yellow card jmowreader Sunday #62
Rules? We ain't got no stinkin rules. LilElf70 Sunday #63
hot take: the head of FIFA could have just said no. Takket Sunday #64
Yep mcar Sunday #74
Blaming the children for their parents' idiocy Ponietz Sunday #75
FIFA is just as corrupt danieljsf Sunday #66
They could he 100 times more corrupt than they are and still not be as corrupt as Pedo 47. BannonsLiver Yesterday #113
It makes me so mad. Music Man Sunday #76
It's not happening Renew Deal Sunday #78
My hunch is heads of states from all over the world contact FIFA and get games rigged. LeftInTX Yesterday #86
On the one hand, it was a bullshit red card to begin with. Jedi Guy Yesterday #87
No Polybius Yesterday #90
Given the traffic in DFW the past two weeks, yes please. Torchlight Yesterday #92
I'm glad it was reversed. It should not have been called. Go USA! nt LexVegas Yesterday #94
But what effect, if any, did this have on Taylor Swift's wedding? flvegan Yesterday #95
LOL sarisataka Yesterday #101
It's a clusterfuck all the way around indusurb Yesterday #97
FIFA should be disbanded just as the international olympic committee should be moonshinegnomie Yesterday #102
FIFA should ban FIFA! maxsolomon Yesterday #106
FIFA should be banned form the world cup. usonian Yesterday #107
This Is Why We Lose Elections ProfessorGAC Yesterday #108
I just wish people cared as much about democracy as they care about sports Skittles Yesterday #125
Certainly A Noble Sentiment ProfessorGAC Yesterday #127
Oh, come down from that horse. ColoringFool 20 hrs ago #133
I hope Roger Goodell is watching. BannonsLiver Yesterday #111
FIFA is corrupt. Republicans nor US Soccer can win Akakoji Yesterday #117
Yes because the USMNT is a bunch of no talents sarisataka Yesterday #118
This was a total no win solution. They got exactly what they deserved Akakoji 16 hrs ago #136
It was a no win situation sarisataka 16 hrs ago #137
We all lost Akakoji 11 hrs ago #138
Sports like soccer are useful in channeling aggressive instincts in safe ways. dedl67 Yesterday #124
I Suggest We Play as If Unaware and Then, Regardless of Match Outcome, Forfeit the Game in His Name The Roux Comes First Yesterday #126
Now that the dictator has put his finger Emile 22 hrs ago #132
I'm rooting for BELGIUM because TRUMP INTERVENED! ColoringFool 20 hrs ago #134

C Moon

(13,855 posts)
45. Everything he touches, gets ruined.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:23 PM
Sunday

I have no doubt that in the least some people at the head of fifa will be losing their positions.

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
60. It is the beautiful game
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 09:00 PM
Sunday

run by one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.

Sad, but it is what it is.

oberle

(480 posts)
65. What I'd like to know is:
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 10:33 PM
Sunday

what is so beautiful about the game? All I can see is lots of guys running around and very little scoring. I suppose that's blasphemous to say here.

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
67. I would say the similar about basketball
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 10:42 PM
Sunday

All I can see is lots of guys running around and tossing a ball through a hoop over and over.

In soccer it helps to understand the flow of the game. The passes are like a chess match between the two teams trying to find the momentary opening to get the goal. It is what makes each goal so special, most of them are the result of a lot of buildup.

MichMan

(17,733 posts)
84. Would anyone watch basketball if the players only shot the ball ten times a game?
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 03:23 AM
Yesterday

And 3/4 of the shots made missed the basket?

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
96. What is the hitting percentage in baseball?
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:15 AM
Yesterday

Most of the time the batters swing at nothing but air and until recently it could take a couple of minutes in between each of those.

MichMan

(17,733 posts)
119. A .300 batting average was always the standard
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:46 PM
Yesterday

One out of three at bats is a hit.

American Football has long surpassed Baseball as the most popular sport. When I was growing up, every kid played baseball. Not as much now.

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
120. Baseball may be the second most popular sport
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:00 PM
Yesterday

which I believe is due more to strikes, the influence of money and the league turning a blind eye to open steroid abuse. I never have enjoyed watching though I did like to play the game.

If one considers a hit as equivalent to a shot on goal baseball is not too far off soccer and baseball is still very popular. Around the world soccer is the most popular sport in the majority of countries by far.

I have seen some comparisons of the World Cup to the Superbowl, which we think is the greatest sporting event in the world. Granted the World Cup is a tournament rather than a one-day event but comparing the two, the Superbowl is hardly a blip on the radar. The Superbowl may have 100M viewers, the World Cup final is expected to have 1.5 Billion viewers

AZProgressive

(30,122 posts)
122. It would probably be different without a shot clock
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:49 PM
Yesterday

The four corners offense would return and fans would be fed up.

I actually watched the Mexico vs England game last night and it was a terrific match. One thing though that made soccer better than other sports was the lack of commercials but they ruined that this year with “hydration breaks”.

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
123. If one knows the history of the shot clock that is a good comparison
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:52 PM
Yesterday

Not a basketball fan, but I did hear the reason for it explained once. I don’t remember the team, but I believe they were playing against the Lakers at a point where they were considered unbeatable. The opponents just basically held the ball and never did anything the whole game. It ended up being one of the scoring games in NBA history and using the tactic they defeated the Lakers.

Afterwards, the NBA instituted the shot clock because it was realized that sort of tactic would make the game so boring no one would come to watch.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,791 posts)
109. Or American football
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:12 PM
Yesterday

A bunch of big sweaty guys in great big pads pushing and shoving each other around while one throws a oointy object that sometimes gets caught? And why is it called "football" at all?

Soccer is, in part, a chess match on the field, but what most Americans don't get, and wouldn't unless they or their child played for many years, is that it is mainly a game of defense rather than offense, which is why the scores are few. My daughter was a defender for most of her career and my brother was a goalkeeper. I grew up in pre-Title IX days and suffered a severe ankle injury at 17 that was not properly treated, so sports for me were strictly spectator, but soccer is a game I grew to understand and love.

mcar

(46,705 posts)
69. American football
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:17 PM
Sunday

All I see is a bunch of guys taking a commercial break after a 2 minute play.

kairos12

(13,861 posts)
80. I like American football, however
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:10 AM
Yesterday

even I recognize it combines two odious things. Meetings and violence.

aggiesal

(11,037 posts)
129. I can't stand the fake diving from ALL the players. ...
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 04:24 PM
23 hrs ago

Some are legit, but I would say about 80% are just fake and trying to get the refer to call a foul.
Some are so extremely obvious, and they still get away with it. The refs are told not to call fouls,
not because they didn't occur, but because FIFA told the refs to keep the game moving, something about have
continuity.

Also, fouls, when they are called, are called outside the penalty area, but those same fouls are not being called in the penalty area.
That's. how I'm seeing it.

popsdenver

(2,892 posts)
131. According to my serious international soccer friends
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 05:57 PM
22 hrs ago

FIFA is the second most corrupt organization in the world, with the U.S. Republican Party running away with the #1 position....

No wonder FIFA and TRUMP are such intimate bosom buddies................

niyad

(135,706 posts)
43. Well, fifa is one of the most corrupt organizations around. Why
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:18 PM
Sunday

would anybody expect them to exercise integrity?

malaise

(299,964 posts)
3. If that happened they should be banned - effin madness
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:14 PM
Sunday
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jul/05/folarin-balogun-red-card-suspension-lifted-usmnt-belgium-

Trump lobbied Fifa to lift Folarin Balogun suspension for World Cup game v Belgium

Fifa announced suspension of ban earlier on Sunday
Belgian FA ‘astonished’ by decision
Matt Hughes, Paul MacInnes and Alexander Abnos in Seattle
Sun 5 Jul 2026 23.01 BST

President Donald Trump lobbied Fifa to lift the US striker Folarin Balogun’s one-game ban for a red card received in the team’s win over Bosnia and Herzegovina, preceding Sunday’s stunning announcement that he would be available for the cohosts’ last-16 clash against Belgium in Seattle on Monday night.

Sources have told the Guardian that Trump made three calls to Fifa, starting from Wednesday last week, to ensure that the change was made.

Malik Tillman celebrates his goal against Bosnia and Herzegovina
Steely USA overcome Bosnia and Herzegovina and controversial red to reach World Cup last 16

The decision gives the US a huge boost on the field as they attempt to reach the World Cup quarter-finals for the first time since 2002. Balogun has been a constant threat for the US so far this tournament, and has scored three goals in three starts.

Fifa has been approached for comment. Donald Trump thanked football’s world governing body for suspending the red card. “Thank you to Fifa for doing what was right, and reversing a great injustice!” President Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

——-
This is absolutely unacceptable


SergeStorms

(21,157 posts)
103. I thought it was a ridiculous call....
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:35 AM
Yesterday

in the first place. I could definitely see giving a yellow card, but a red card? That in itself was a political move, IMO.
But, that wax FIFA's decision and the U.S. should have lived with it.
Then "FIFA Peace Prize" winner, Donald Trump, calls FIFA headquarters and gets it overturned.

I can't blame the collective teams from around the world - and their fans - for being enraged. Trump is putting his tiny little thumb on the scale, trying to bring a WC championship to the U.S. (and undeservedly so).

Trump and FIFA are two peas in the same pod. Corrupt, greedy, and soon to fall. I hope. 😁

malaise

(299,964 posts)
104. Football is the most popular sport on the planet
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:39 AM
Yesterday

FIFA is going nowhere but it sure needs serious reforms

mcar

(46,705 posts)
4. Should Portugal be banned?
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:19 PM
Sunday

FIFA suspended Ronaldo's 3 game suspension just in time for the WC. How about Argentina? Messi committed an arguably worse foul that didn't even get called. And hey, while we're at it, FIFA should take another look at the fiasco that was France-Paraguay.

I hate, hate, hate that TSF got involved and that the corrupt FIFA is so corrupt. But the USMNT shouldn't be shunned for this. It was a BS red card.

moonshinegnomie

(4,186 posts)
5. under fifa rules
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:25 PM
Sunday

multi game suspensions can be appealed but not 1 day bans. as for a foul not getting called that happens all the time.

FIFA is corrupt as hell but after this fiasco im rooting for anyone other than the US.



thomski64

(1,020 posts)
44. I have to agree..the odds of defeating.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:19 PM
Sunday

Belgium, Spain and then France are ridiculous.
And I'm moderately conflicted not to support the US team. But in as much as Cracker Barrel
Krasnov has tried to influence this. It would choice to see us defeated by Belgium..hate to be petty but just fuck this piece of shit excuse for a human being.
He wants to everything about him
I hope we lose..

The Grand Illuminist

(2,126 posts)
85. Remember the US Men's Olympic Hockey Team
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 03:55 AM
Yesterday

They win gold, then suddenly they are absolute willing participants to have Trump shove it in our faces, especially the SOTU. If US wins the World Cup, I expect the same. I don't blame you.

xocetaceans

(4,449 posts)
130. That circumstance will remain purely hypothetical: on an outside chance, the US might just be able to defeat . . .
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 05:54 PM
22 hrs ago

. . . Belgium, but I would still consider that to be very unlikely. They don't have the depth or quality in enough of the positions to come even close to winning the World Cup. Yes, Pulisic and Balogun are quite good, and Balogun is a serious threat: but the US does not have the quality to make it more than one more match into this World Cup. Unless the US works a lot more on early player development and soccer for men becomes much more popular, the USMNT will not ever come close to matching what the USWNT has accomplished. While I wish the USMNT would also have that success, it won't happen this iteration.

The best thing that can come of this whole situation is that FIFA is forced to take a hard look at its officiating and institute a transparent appeals process for calls that are not made properly: i.e., Balogun's red card was absolutely not deserved, and that can be seen easily from the front view that was televised--Balogun did not initiate a challenge and was doing nothing more than trying to keep himself between the ball the player who was 'fouled'. The player from BH ran through him to be in the position of being 'fouled'.

Anyway, FIFA needs to improve, but no one has to worry about the US winning the World Cup this summer. It seems like the US program is perpetually twenty years away from that being a possibility--except for the USWNT who are a soccer dynasty, but they still need to reclaim the title from Spain to go with their more recent Olympic gold medals!

All that being said, go USMNT!

Defeat Belgium and set the stage for further improvement of the men's side.

Happy Hoosier

(9,749 posts)
47. Sure. Rooting against America is a great move.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:23 PM
Sunday

I hate, hate, HATE Trump. But I will not root against my country.

Happy Hoosier

(9,749 posts)
52. Do what you want...
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:27 PM
Sunday

But the guys on the USMNT don’t deserve your scorn… at least not for this.

The Revolution

(927 posts)
73. That's a poor attitude
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:24 PM
Sunday

The player in question is pretty much the poster child for everything Trump and Miller hate. From Wikipedia:

Balogun was born in Brooklyn, New York, to Yoruba Nigerian parents.[8][9] His parents were living in London, and visited New York when his mother was seven months pregnant with him. Airline staff did not allow her to board the family's return flight to London due to safety concerns over the advanced state of her pregnancy, and Balogun was subsequently born in New York


He wouldn't even be sble to play for the US if they had their way. The more he helps the US, the more of an FU it is to Trump.

Our team has worked really hard and we shouldn't turn on them just because the president is a dumbfuck.

Cheering against the US team out of spite is exactly the type of attitude that will drive voters away from us.

Ilsa

(64,813 posts)
77. Oh, Balogun's the "anchor baby" star. I didn't know
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:54 PM
Sunday

he was the one I'd been hearing about. Do we know for certain the Orange Menace did this? He must have bragged about it.

Belgium has protested, but I doubt anything will change.

rpannier

(25,018 posts)
83. If you say so
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:23 AM
Yesterday

I am certain that if you were able to delve deeply into this that money, or some other favor in kind is involved in this decision. I wouldn't support my favorite baseball team, or university if I was as certain that something underhanded had happened to them through to another round.
As to what others think -- don't care
Not sure how it's an FU to Trump given that he has tied his name to their success. He doesn't care who or how,he just wants to claim the glory

BlueMTexpat

(15,712 posts)
93. This struck me too.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:41 AM
Yesterday

The First Felon's hypocrisy is staggering, especially after his hissy fit about the USSC decision on "birthright nationality."

Btw, I hate the phrases "birth tourism" and anchor baby."

If someone is born in the USA, that person is a US citizen, no matter how or why they got here. Period.

awesomerwb1

(5,192 posts)
121. Zero chance of this
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:34 PM
Yesterday

No way in hell would FIFA go against the US.....unless they played argentina Fifantina.

WestMichRad

(3,553 posts)
17. Nope.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:48 PM
Sunday

Experience has shown that this leads to more injuries and potentially on-field violence.

WestMichRad

(3,553 posts)
39. Okay, that may be true.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:11 PM
Sunday

I didn’t watch the game, so I can’t opine on whether or not the red card was deserved. Let’s say it wasn’t; you may well be correct.

But I was responding to the poster saying “let the players sort it out themselves.” There’s a reason that the card system was implemented many years ago, and it’s because a major principle of the beautiful game, fair play, was getting run over by the lack of effective discipline to address reckless play.

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
7. It is unusual but not unique
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:33 PM
Sunday

Ronaldo came into the World Cup carrying a two-match suspension that would have kept him out of Portugal's first group stage games. He was given the same probation, if the player receives a red card in the next year the suspensions are reinstated in addition to and punishment for that red card

The US team also had a strong case in that Messi committed a similar and more intentional foul that was not penalized in the match or afterward. Ignoring Messi, and giving Ronaldo a probation, while punishing Balogun would be blatant favoritism to the big-name players.

moonshinegnomie

(4,186 posts)
10. from what ive read multi game suspensiosn are appelable but not one game ones for a rd card
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:38 PM
Sunday

as for a foul not called that happens al the time in all sports especially with big name players.

look at how often lebron or MJ in basketball got the benefit of the doubt on a call.

I hope the refs call fouls against any us player who even looks sideways at a belgium player. all this is goign to do is make soccer even less popular in the US

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
16. The red card is not open to appeal
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:46 PM
Sunday

it cannot be "erased". However the suspension may be appealed.

True, in all sports stars get special treatment. It is unfair and I much prefer an evenly called game.

Are you advocating match fixing as a solution? Do you think referees should also call excessive fouls against Portugal and Argentina to make up for a perceived injustice?

Soccer is still growing in popularity, and this incident is not going to slow that one iota. If anything, the exposure to the US of this World Cup will further increase the sport's popularity, despite Trump and his antics.

mcar

(46,705 posts)
21. Why? It's not their fault they got a bogus call
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:57 PM
Sunday

or that the corrupt pResident and the corrupt FIFA leader apparently pushed this appeal.

JCMach1

(29,285 posts)
112. you obviously haven't been paying attention
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:28 PM
Yesterday

To the horrific officiating all around.

If the US wins against the big boys upcoming, they will absolutely deserve it and deserve our praise .

Melon

(1,990 posts)
11. Do you have proof of this? That's not what I have
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:38 PM
Sunday

Read. FIFA has overturned the same thing in the past in large tournaments. Is this verified before we go out shouting down the US anymore.

moonshinegnomie

(4,186 posts)
13. from ESPN
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:42 PM
Sunday

Article 66.4 of the same FIFA Disciplinary Code clearly provides that a red card [sending-off] automatically results in a suspension for the team's next match, as has been the case for all previous red cards issued during this FIFA World Cup.

"Furthermore, and irrespective of the above, the decision is in direct contradiction with the provisions of the FIFA World Cup 2026 Competition Regulations, as set out in Article 10.5: 'If a player or team official is sent off as a result of a direct or indirect red card [second caution], they will automatically be suspended from their team's subsequent match. In addition, further sanctions may be imposed.

moonshinegnomie

(4,186 posts)
14. and furthermore
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:45 PM
Sunday

since yellow and rd cars were introduced in 1970 no player has ever played the next game after recieving a red card in the world cup


?s=20

Melon

(1,990 posts)
27. See below.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 07:16 PM
Sunday

Folarin Balogun (2026): The United States men's national team striker received a controversial red card against Bosnia-Herzegovina in the round of 32. FIFA stepped in and suspended his automatic one-game ban, putting him on probation and allowing him to play in the round of 16 against
Belgium.
Cristiano Ronaldo (2026): Just ahead of the World Cup, FIFA commuted a three-match suspension he received for an incident in a World Cup qualifier, putting him on a probation period and allowing him to play in the World Cup group stage .

Ronaldinho (2002): After receiving a straight red card against England in the quarterfinals, his suspension was limited to just one match rather than a multi-match ban, allowing him to return for the 2002 World Cup Final .

moonshinegnomie

(4,186 posts)
38. Ronaldo's wasn't in the tournament it was a qualifier
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:10 PM
Sunday

Ronalinho had his reduced but still sat out a game

15. Fuck FIFA. ,Fuck Trump. It's too bad, but the US team will now be thought of as an illegitimate competitor by many.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:45 PM
Sunday

Response to Whyisthisstillclose (Reply #15)

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
23. If you can't trust FIFA...
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 07:01 PM
Sunday

I recall John Oliver's shows on FIFA during the Sepp Blatter fiasco; I about peed myself laughing because everything he said was true.

BidenRocks

(3,703 posts)
19. FIFA is corrupt!
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:53 PM
Sunday

The whole world has known this forever.
America is a little slow catching on.

I knew chump would interfere and corrupt!

Tasmanian Devil

(287 posts)
24. FIFA's reputation *was* able to get worse
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 07:11 PM
Sunday

In further evidence that there's just no bottom to the Rapist Felon Trump, he was able to lower even the FIFA's absurdly abysmal reputation. USA! USA! USA!

Happy Hoosier

(9,749 posts)
29. Lots of folks, myself included...
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 07:21 PM
Sunday

Thought the red card was bullshit and probably politically motivated.

3catwoman3

(30,348 posts)
81. I found myself wondering if there may not have been some subtle...
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:38 AM
Yesterday

...(or maybe not so subtle) bias on the part of the Brazilian ref. who might have been hoping to disadvantage a potential opponent for his country's team.

onenote

(46,422 posts)
41. Who do you think runs the World Cup? It's literally the FIFA World Cup.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:15 PM
Sunday

FIFA was established in 1930, the year of the first World Cup competition.

rpannier

(25,018 posts)
46. I know who runs the World Cup
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:23 PM
Sunday

It's so corrupt they should be banned from running anything
I am quite aware of who and what FIFA is
That you took my comment so literally speaks volumes

RockRaven

(20,160 posts)
34. LOL. Expecting FIFA to do anything less than maximally corrupt and utterly shamelessly too.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 07:46 PM
Sunday

I am cracking up.


Good one!

MLAA

(19,872 posts)
35. If I were the US coach I'd bench the player with the red card for one match. I'd catch hell, but that's how
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 07:48 PM
Sunday

I’d stand up against TSF’s interference and FIFAs corruption.

FakeNoose

(43,252 posts)
37. I didn't see the violation but I have read opinions from viewers (including non-Americans)
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:07 PM
Sunday

The line judge's call was questionable, and it may not have been a violation. The same thing was NOT being carded against other players in other games.

I don't believe Chump was right to call the FIFA president about it, but there should be a way to legally review and question the referees when they make questionable calls. When there's so much riding on this World Cup championship, they need to have a way to reconsider certain rulings.

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
40. There is such a process
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:14 PM
Sunday

VAR- the Video Assistant Referee.

On the field the referee called a foul (it was) but with no further penalty. The VAR stepped in and had the referee review the play which resulted in the ejection.

There is much debate in the football community over the call however the consensus is that the play should not have been a red card. Regardless of similar plays not called, most fans and referees agree it should have been a yellow card (warning) at most. As a former referee I agree, I would have initially given a yellow on the play and had I the advantage of VAR I would not have changed it to a red.

mcar

(46,705 posts)
71. At least in the World Cup
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:22 PM
Sunday

I see no reason that red cards and officiating couldn't be reviewed after matches. The officiating at yesterday's France-Paraguay match was beyond bad.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,791 posts)
114. I have some pretty serious questions
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:33 PM
Yesterday

about the ref in the Mexico-England match as well.

Bev54

(13,572 posts)
89. We have all experienced questionable calls and nobody else is running to the head of FIFA
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:31 AM
Yesterday

to get them overturned. Sorry but the US team is now tainted to the rest of the world. Just another thing that Trump has ruined.

Total grievance society.

Prairie Gates

(8,749 posts)
51. They will be sent packing in due course
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:26 PM
Sunday

With any luck, that will include an on-field humiliation.

An absolute disgrace and embarrassment for US soccer.

mcar

(46,705 posts)
72. Why would you want the USMNT to be humiliated?
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:23 PM
Sunday

They did nothing wrong. As announcer and former USMNT member said, if you have a problem with the decision, take it up with FIFA.

It's not the men's team fault.

Bev54

(13,572 posts)
91. If they had any integrity, they would not accept the interference.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:38 AM
Yesterday

Who called on Trump to request he get it overturned? I would be interested to know. There has been poor officiating in many games at this world cup and most others, but never has any country leader interfered with decisions. FIFA is a corrupt organization and always has been but never has there ever been such blatant political interference in the actual games. I don't care what country it is, this is really a bad look. Just one more reason for the world to hate the US.

rso

(2,693 posts)
53. US Team
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:28 PM
Sunday

The irony is that Trump, who rails constantly about birthright citizenship, intervened on behalf of a player who would not be on the US team were it not for birthright citizenship.

Aussie105

(8,394 posts)
58. Politics and sport don't make a good mix.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:50 PM
Sunday

Besides, people take sports - any sport - far too seriously.
Mix together politics, money and national pride, and . . .
It becomes a war zone.

Karasu

(2,420 posts)
61. I agree that the red card was a bad call, but the president of a country has no business weighing in on something like
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 09:08 PM
Sunday

a fucking red card at a sporting event. This shit is pathetic. It's small, petty, and embarrassing for the US. As always, he only did it because he wanted to "look good" and take credit, anyhow.

After all his recent failures and debacles, he clearly has nothing better to fucking do with himself.

jmowreader

(53,584 posts)
62. If I was the referee I probably wouldn't have shown even a yellow card
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 09:17 PM
Sunday

What happened was Folarin Balogun of the USMNT and Tarik Muharemović of Bosnia and Herzegovina were going for the ball, got tangled up, and Balogun stepped on Muharemović's foot. Muharemović was behind Balogun when it happened. It was just hard play.

The biggest issue is the referees in this World Cup have shown more red cards than were shown in the entirety of the last two World Cups combined and there's still a lot of soccer left to play. FIFA is the Mos Eisley Spaceport of the sporting world so one has to wonder who paid off Infantino to get all these players sent off.

LilElf70

(1,749 posts)
63. Rules? We ain't got no stinkin rules.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 09:35 PM
Sunday

He has never gone by the rules, nor the rule of law. In his demented mind, rules are made to be broken.

Takket

(23,880 posts)
64. hot take: the head of FIFA could have just said no.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 09:46 PM
Sunday

the red card was an absolutely horrible call. I'm glad FIFA made this right and it should not have taken any interference from drumpf to do so. they should have fixed it on their own.

all that being said, my message to drumpf would be DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO????????????

BannonsLiver

(21,135 posts)
113. They could he 100 times more corrupt than they are and still not be as corrupt as Pedo 47.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:29 PM
Yesterday

Don’t be silly. 😂

Music Man

(1,692 posts)
76. It makes me so mad.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 11:48 PM
Sunday

We don't need the Orange Fucker's help. Now the whole thing is called into question.

I hate him.

Jedi Guy

(3,534 posts)
87. On the one hand, it was a bullshit red card to begin with.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 05:37 AM
Yesterday

On the other hand, by getting involved Trump has now tainted any success the team has hereafter. If they win it'll be dismissed as Trump putting his tiny orange thumb on the scale, and not without merit.

On the mutant third hand, I get why FIFA would be susceptible to the pressure to suspend the penalty. The US is pretty much the only part of the world that isn't crazy for football and FIFA very much wants to change that. No doubt they judged that any short-term scandal is worth making further inroads into the US market.

Torchlight

(7,358 posts)
92. Given the traffic in DFW the past two weeks, yes please.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:41 AM
Yesterday

I have to check whether a game is playing here on any given day or lose 45 minutes in Arlington traffic.

(I'm sure there are reasons given both for and against the premise, but I'm go into the 'get off my lawn' mode when it comes to local traffic in north TX.)

indusurb

(380 posts)
97. It's a clusterfuck all the way around
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:16 AM
Yesterday

First off FIFA is notoriously corrupt and incompetent, from the front office down to their refs. Balogun shouldn't have gotten that red card to begin with, it was a bullshit call on a normal play. In fact it was a play on, no call until VAR "recommended" a review. Other players have done essentially the same action as Balogun did with nothing happening(looking at you Messi).

FIFA rules are confusing to the point of be contradictory when it comes to after action appeals. There have been successful appeals in the group portion of the tournament, but not in the knockout rounds(are they somehow sacred?).

Trump shouldn't have gotten involved, it makes everything the US team does from here on out look illegitimate. He should have kept quiet and said nothing, there was enough pressure on FIFA to change the call as was. Worse thing is if Balogun would have remained disqualified that would have been a rallying point for our team, and as we saw against Bosnia, the US team rallies well. Now this all serves as a rallying point for Belgium, which we don't need. Interesting point, Balogun may still not play as Belgium is appealing the appeal, stay tuned.

I'm still rooting for the US team no matter what happens. They didn't cause this mess, FIFA and Trump did. I'm not going to take my anger out on the people who are caught in the middle. Nor am I going to say that America should be banned from hosting future World Cups. First of all, political leadership changes in this country, and second, FIFA needs a deep cleaning of its own, starting with Infantino.

So go US, sorry you folks got caught in this stupid mess.

moonshinegnomie

(4,186 posts)
102. FIFA should be disbanded just as the international olympic committee should be
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:31 AM
Yesterday

both have become nothing more than corrupt jokes.

maxsolomon

(39,517 posts)
106. FIFA should ban FIFA!
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:48 AM
Yesterday

Suspending the Red Card is in the rule book. I'd wager USMNT asked for a review as well, not just President Asshole.

Even with Balogan, it's maybe 50/50 that we make it past Belgium, and far worse odds to make it past Spain or Portugal in the Quarters. France or Morocco wait beyond that in the Semis. The US is not going to win this tournament.

ProfessorGAC

(77,760 posts)
108. This Is Why We Lose Elections
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

Punish the players & fans of the team because Trump & FIFA are gullible & corrupt.
Perfect way to win hearts & minds.

BannonsLiver

(21,135 posts)
111. I hope Roger Goodell is watching.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

Because now that Trump has proof of concept this maneuver works…

Akakoji

(644 posts)
117. FIFA is corrupt. Republicans nor US Soccer can win
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:40 PM
Yesterday

Anything unless the game is rigged. How any player would participate in this disgrace is beyond comprehension. Trump would claim credit for the win anyway. Getting very embarrassing to be an American. Expect extended boos at any match the US plays.

sarisataka

(23,175 posts)
118. Yes because the USMNT is a bunch of no talents
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:45 PM
Yesterday

who have rigged every match they have ever won

Akakoji

(644 posts)
136. This was a total no win solution. They got exactly what they deserved
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:23 PM
16 hrs ago

Lie down on the gutter with Trump and his Republican conmen, hucksters, thieves, and traitors, wake up infected with a complete lack of integrity and failure.

Akakoji

(644 posts)
138. We all lost
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 04:08 AM
11 hrs ago

The other teams were all world class soccer teams. Trump shit all over all of us, including all the players on the US team.

dedl67

(288 posts)
124. Sports like soccer are useful in channeling aggressive instincts in safe ways.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 03:00 PM
Yesterday

Sports also serve the function of giving the opportunity for a small country, like Belgium, to defeat a large country, like the USA, which it could never do in any type of actual warfare (military, economic, etc.). This can have the salutary effects of giving pride to a small nation and giving a needed lesson in humility to a powerful nation. I am not necessarily rooting for the Belgium team to win, but I wouldn’t be unhappy if they do.

The Roux Comes First

(2,459 posts)
126. I Suggest We Play as If Unaware and Then, Regardless of Match Outcome, Forfeit the Game in His Name
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 03:14 PM
Yesterday

We are not about cheating, even if that is all the yam knows how to do.

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