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MakeThemCry

(41 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 05:44 AM 11 hrs ago

Mamdani is now a PROVEN king maker

What excuse will the Establishment media come up w/today?

They'll start w/'this can only work in NYC", then they'll shift to "something, something, something not good for the generals."

Personally, I'm over the moon. Let's keep this momentum going baby.

Platner, you're up next!

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Mamdani is now a PROVEN king maker (Original Post) MakeThemCry 11 hrs ago OP
Outside of NYC? RandySF 11 hrs ago #1
It will be interesting to see exactly which one of these seats Mamdani will run for when his term as mayor is over. lapucelle 10 hrs ago #10
Labeling anyone a single "kingmaker" completely diminishes the incredible work of the candidates themselves... QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #2
Yeah, but that isn't 'Hollywood' enough for the general population. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 10 hrs ago #9
Hollywood...good analogy. Biblical might work too. I prefer hard work, smart strategy, & less reliance on "saviors". QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #12
So do I. OldBaldy1701E 2 hrs ago #34
They all ready started, lol. Emile 11 hrs ago #3
While the DSA cleaned up in NYC RandySF 11 hrs ago #4
This was good news for New York. I think voters are ready for a new generation and a new philosophy. Lonestarblue 10 hrs ago #5
We already have a "king" and don't need another one. democrank 10 hrs ago #6
Not sure one day qualifies him for "kingmaker". 3_Limes 10 hrs ago #7
The OP is not the only one using that description (FWIW) Celerity 9 hrs ago #13
Tu Quoque Variation. Argumentum ad Populum. And of course my favorite... QueerDuck 9 hrs ago #17
Your examples only apply to someone actually making an logical argument or claim. I was only pointing out Celerity 9 hrs ago #18
Sure. QueerDuck 8 hrs ago #20
Well, I appreciated it Sympthsical 2 hrs ago #37
You mean the media is doing an instant reaction hot take? EdmondDantes_ 2 hrs ago #33
The voters, particularly in Chevalier 's case MakeThemCry 8 hrs ago #23
Others attributing this to stance on Gaza and the genocide... complicated JT45242 10 hrs ago #8
K&R orangecrush 10 hrs ago #11
T'aint nuthin.- - N.J. - We got one of them Socialist Democrats in Congress. And in my district. 3Hotdogs 9 hrs ago #14
A "king maker" is crucial to the rise of someone *more powerful than themselves* muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #15
So happy to see mvd 9 hrs ago #16
"Kingmaker" is an embarrassing, cringe worthy term. FascismIsDeath 9 hrs ago #19
Nonsense. Raven123 8 hrs ago #21
I don't know that he's a "king maker" (silly term) but he's pretty fucking amazing. Autumn 8 hrs ago #22
Although Mamdani deserves credit, I think it is a values shift karynnj 6 hrs ago #24
It won't work in most places creeksneakers2 5 hrs ago #25
Feel the same Dee0909 4 hrs ago #29
And in November JBTaurus83 5 hrs ago #26
Correct Dee0909 4 hrs ago #28
I live in PA JBTaurus83 4 hrs ago #30
I don't believe in hashing out fights between moderate and progressive Democrats. gab13by13 5 hrs ago #27
I always support and vote for Democrats . Some Democrats, like Fetterman I don't support. If you look at his Autumn 4 hrs ago #31
All politics is local politics. MineralMan 3 hrs ago #32
I've already seen the call. sheshe2 1 hr ago #39
Oops. I forgot that. MineralMan 1 hr ago #40
... sheshe2 35 min ago #41
Checking, I see that Mamdani didn't endorse anyone in other Congressional MineralMan 2 hrs ago #35
he is a politician doing what politicians do lol. I think NYC has an overinflated view of its own value nt msongs 2 hrs ago #36
Yes, and in this case, only three districts got endorsements. MineralMan 2 hrs ago #38

lapucelle

(21,227 posts)
10. It will be interesting to see exactly which one of these seats Mamdani will run for when his term as mayor is over.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:04 AM
10 hrs ago

Mamdani is personally wealthy enough to settle down on the UWS, the UES, in lower Manhattan, or in gentrified Brooklyn. That would put him up against Lander or Lasher for a congressional seat.

Should Mamdani choose to return to his rent stabilized apartment in Queens, that would put him up against AOC, who declined to endorse in any of the NYC primaries.

As Rachel Maddow would say, watch this space.



QueerDuck

(2,111 posts)
2. Labeling anyone a single "kingmaker" completely diminishes the incredible work of the candidates themselves...
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:07 AM
11 hrs ago

Labeling anyone a single "kingmaker" completely diminishes the incredible work of the candidates themselves, their staff, and the volunteers who knocked on doors. --- Did Mamdani's endorsement provide a helpful signal to progressive voters? Sure. But he didn't cast the ballots.

These weren't easy, standard races where an endorsement just rubber-stamps an obvious winner—they were tough, hard-fought campaigns. These candidates won because they ran aggressive, disciplined grassroots operations that tapped into real voter dissatisfaction.

Why would anyone want to reduce a complex, organized movement down to one guy playing kingmaker? The credit actually belongs to the people who ran and the voters who showed up.

QueerDuck

(2,111 posts)
12. Hollywood...good analogy. Biblical might work too. I prefer hard work, smart strategy, & less reliance on "saviors".
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:16 AM
10 hrs ago

RandySF

(87,823 posts)
4. While the DSA cleaned up in NYC
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:31 AM
11 hrs ago

a moderate former mayor took 60% against a field of progressive (including one endorsed by Bernie) in Salt Lake City. A moderate combat vet was nominated in the NY 17th. A Chevalier would not beat a Republican in Nassau or Putnam.

Lonestarblue

(13,637 posts)
5. This was good news for New York. I think voters are ready for a new generation and a new philosophy.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:50 AM
10 hrs ago

democrank

(12,733 posts)
6. We already have a "king" and don't need another one.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:55 AM
10 hrs ago

Credit should go to the hard-working candidates, their home-hitting messages and the volunteers.

I believe our country is preparing for change….not just a new leader, but a very new way of being.

Celerity

(55,324 posts)
13. The OP is not the only one using that description (FWIW)
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:36 AM
9 hrs ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/nyregion/mamdani-politics-influence.html



Mayor Zohran Mamdani and his allies swept a series of congressional primaries in New York City on Tuesday in a remarkable show of strength for the insurgent left that sent shock waves through the Democratic Party.

Mr. Mamdani’s candidates toppled a pair of incumbents backed by the city’s political establishment, including major labor unions and the House Democratic leader. Another candidate backed by the mayor won an open House seat, and a handful of democratic socialist challengers he supported were winning down the ballot.

For months, Mr. Mamdani threw himself and his energized political organization into the three marquee congressional contests, campaigning late into the night in the race’s final days and calling the election a referendum on the direction of the party.

All the winning candidates share Mr. Mamdani’s progressive economic platform, and they each ran campaigns that focused intently on ending American support for Israel, a sign of how far public opinion has shifted on the issue, even in New York.

snip

QueerDuck

(2,111 posts)
17. Tu Quoque Variation. Argumentum ad Populum. And of course my favorite...
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:02 AM
9 hrs ago

... Argumentum ad Verecundiam. But, whatever.

Celerity

(55,324 posts)
18. Your examples only apply to someone actually making an logical argument or claim. I was only pointing out
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:11 AM
9 hrs ago

another example (thus my use of 'FWIW' in my reply) of the term being employed in re Mamdani.

Also, as I type this, MS Now has also used the term twice (by two different people) a few seconds ago, again FWIW.

But you do you.

Sympthsical

(11,268 posts)
37. Well, I appreciated it
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:13 PM
2 hrs ago

Chevalier is not . . . my favorite person ever. Which is understating it.

But anything that jolts the Establishment (and Schumer), but really the Establishment (Schumer) . . . it's Schumer. I just like that Schumer's getting elbowed by a new, more progressive generation. Finally.

I think AOC can create a moment on the back of this and ride it into the Senate. Not a cakewalk, but achievable.

It will be very interesting to see, in light of this, if Schumer runs again.

EdmondDantes_

(2,276 posts)
33. You mean the media is doing an instant reaction hot take?
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 02:33 PM
2 hrs ago

It should take more than 1 election cycle to be worthy of being labeled much of anything, but everyone likes to jump to the conclusion that they want. Shockingly a currently popular mayor has a correlation with people who share similar policies win an election in the same electorate. Doesn't really imply much about which way the causation runs. It could be that it's the policies rather than the endorsement. You'd need to see repetitive behavior over multiple elections with a shifting electorate to start drawing conclusions.

MakeThemCry

(41 posts)
23. The voters, particularly in Chevalier 's case
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:29 AM
8 hrs ago

Said that they supported her because of Mamdani.

If that isn't kingmaker, then I don't know what that is.

Mamdani has rejuvenated the Democratic Party.

Give him his props, he deserves it.

JT45242

(4,229 posts)
8. Others attributing this to stance on Gaza and the genocide... complicated
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:57 AM
10 hrs ago

Unless we get really clear exit polling results, it will be hard to draw any conclusions.

Remember that all politics are local.

Not sure what to read of primary elections in general as they tell you about the most passionate voters who are in a party. Usually, the unaffiliated independent voters swing the election.

3Hotdogs

(15,722 posts)
14. T'aint nuthin.- - N.J. - We got one of them Socialist Democrats in Congress. And in my district.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:50 AM
9 hrs ago

Anatolia Mejia was elected in a special election in February.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,830 posts)
15. A "king maker" is crucial to the rise of someone *more powerful than themselves*
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:57 AM
9 hrs ago

You might claim that a House representative is more powerful than the Mayor of New York City, but I think most would disagree.

The more appropriate political cliche here is "he has strong coattails".

mvd

(65,982 posts)
16. So happy to see
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:58 AM
9 hrs ago

I can’t remember a better mayor there than Mamdani. As long as the candidates can win, and they will, this is great news.

Raven123

(8,037 posts)
21. Nonsense.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:47 AM
8 hrs ago

A recently elected popular mayor endorses candidates in specific races in areas where he is popular. They win. Not a surprise.

Autumn

(49,038 posts)
22. I don't know that he's a "king maker" (silly term) but he's pretty fucking amazing.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:56 AM
8 hrs ago

He seems to have big coat tails in NY and a lot of people not in NY are sure taking notice and paying attention.

karynnj

(61,218 posts)
24. Although Mamdani deserves credit, I think it is a values shift
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 11:05 AM
6 hrs ago

that was also partly responsible for his own win. (helped of course by the corruption of Adams and the sleaziness of Cuomo)

Someone like Mamdani can bring people to consider a candidate, but the candidate has to make the actual "sale".

It seems that urban centers are moving to democratic socialists. Living in Burlington, Vermont, I remember a rabbi mentioning that Bernie Sanders, a good friend of his, should mention FDR rather than Denmark, Sweden etc.

With affordability being an ever larger issue for all but the top 1 percent, we could, especially in the high cost cities, be in somewhat similar times to the times when FDR and his people worked to create a safety net for vulnerable people.

It may be that people like Mamdani are a revision back to the policies of FDR.

Dee0909

(19 posts)
29. Feel the same
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:39 PM
4 hrs ago

As an old person I realized this is not a popular opinion. However.
What's good for New York is really not good for the rest of the Country!

It gives the republican party and the GOP
Ammunition to say that Democrats are Socialists. Which might sound good to some people? The people of New York in some cases were young people. But it does not sound good in places that we need to win like Iowa, Texas and Pennsylvania.

Everybody wants change but not at the expense of the Republicans keeping control of this Government.

We need the focus to stay on the radical GOP
Not to let the GOP ammunition to say it about us.

JBTaurus83

(1,847 posts)
26. And in November
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:28 PM
5 hrs ago

If more progressives and socialists are elected, there will still be those who spend more time bashing them than the Republicans.

Dee0909

(19 posts)
28. Correct
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:36 PM
4 hrs ago

As an old person I realized this is not a popular opinion. However.
What's good for New York is really not good for the rest of the Country!

It gives the republican party and the GOP
Ammunition to say that Democrats are Socialists. Which might sound good to some people? The people of New York in some cases were young people. But it does not sound good in places that we need to win like Iowa, Texas and Pennsylvania.

Everybody wants change but not at the expense of the Republicans keeping control of this Government.

New York City is not indicative of the rest of the Country.

JBTaurus83

(1,847 posts)
30. I live in PA
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:41 PM
4 hrs ago

And we just selected a Soclialist/progressive..Rabb. I understand that not all Democrats consider themselves progressives or socialists and that is fine, but it is trending right now in the party and everyone will need to work together after the general.

gab13by13

(33,060 posts)
27. I don't believe in hashing out fights between moderate and progressive Democrats.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:30 PM
5 hrs ago

I was soundly criticized here for having that opinion.

I support Democrats.

Autumn

(49,038 posts)
31. I always support and vote for Democrats . Some Democrats, like Fetterman I don't support. If you look at his
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:25 PM
4 hrs ago

actions you can see why. But I live in Colorado so he's not a problem that I have to support.

MineralMan

(152,028 posts)
32. All politics is local politics.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 02:17 PM
3 hrs ago

These primary victories reflect a local area in NYC. The voters there are apparently looking for the candidates characteristics where they vote.

The same three candidates would have lost in many other congressional districts in New York and in other states.

You win where you are. That is no guarantee of winning elsewhere.

Next, we'll start hearing Mamdani in 2028! I certainly hope not. He was elected to a different office. Let him do what he can in that office. We'll see how he performs.

sheshe2

(99,019 posts)
39. I've already seen the call.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:38 PM
1 hr ago

However he is not a naturalized citizen and per the constitution, he cannot run for that seat. House and Senate, yes. President, no.

MineralMan

(152,028 posts)
35. Checking, I see that Mamdani didn't endorse anyone in other Congressional
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 02:54 PM
2 hrs ago

races in NYC. He carefully only gave endorsements in districts where he thought he could endorse the winner.

That's interesting. I'd like to ask him why he didn't endorse anyone in those other districts. Wonder what he'd say.

msongs

(74,495 posts)
36. he is a politician doing what politicians do lol. I think NYC has an overinflated view of its own value nt
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:09 PM
2 hrs ago

MineralMan

(152,028 posts)
38. Yes, and in this case, only three districts got endorsements.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:20 PM
2 hrs ago

Somehow, three districts out of all the districts across the country are supposed to carry so much weight that they overbalance the rest. That's a mistake that leads to overstated expectations. Those three districts are pretty much guaranteed to go to progressive candidates, generally, so they were safe for Mamdani's endorsements.

The other districts in New York City aren't that progressive in nature, so he wisely didn't make endorsements in those, and those districts are not even mentioned in these articles and posts. They're still very important districts and there is interesting news from fhem as well. It's irrelevant to the goals of some Democrats, though, so we don't hear about them much.

For example

"The only grandson of John F. Kennedy hoped to carry on his family's legacy from within the halls of Congress, but ultimately fell short to establishment darling Micah Lasher in a crowded Democratic primary"

https://people.com/jack-schlossberg-loses-house-race-ny-12-primary-12003722

We didn't hear about that in this post on DU. Nothing wrong with that, but It's also important to see a broader perspective, even from a single city in a single state.

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