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SamuelTheThird

(1,419 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:38 PM 5 hrs ago

Israel Threatens to Blow Up Trump's Peace Deal With Iran

https://newrepublic.com/post/211830/israel-threatens-trump-peace-deal-iran

Israel is refusing to remove its IDF troops from Lebanon, even after the U.S. and Iran announced a memorandum of understanding that hinges on the withdrawal. The move could once again jeopardize any chance of a peace deal, as one of Iran’s primary demands is the end of Israel’s bombardment and occupation of Lebanon.

“Israel is not subordinate to the United States, and we are an independent and sovereign state,” said Israel’s right-wing National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who has called for the flattening of Beirut and the kidnapping of Lebanese women and children. “We must not withdraw from any territory that our fighters have occupied and cleared of terrorist infrastructure,” he added. Defense Minister Israel Katz also declared that the Israel Defense Forces would remain in Lebanon “indefinitely.”

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These statements make President Trump’s Sunday announcement of a deal ending the war all the more tenuous, as a final deal isn’t scheduled to be signed until Friday. Trump already rebuked Israel on Sunday for bombing Beirut “on a special day when we are so close to a Peace Deal with Iran.”
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Israel Threatens to Blow Up Trump's Peace Deal With Iran (Original Post) SamuelTheThird 5 hrs ago OP
When nobody in a situation is trustworthy EdmondDantes_ 4 hrs ago #1
That's not a threat, it is a commitment or promise. RockRaven 4 hrs ago #2
And everyone thought Trump was a "Russian" asset leftstreet 4 hrs ago #3
The Fool, the Bad and the Ugly. Something like this ... marble falls 4 hrs ago #4
Great comparison - LOVE that film! snot 3 hrs ago #10
I'd probably recut and shorten the civil war stuff. Other than that, a great movie. marble falls 3 hrs ago #11
I hear you, but snot 2 hrs ago #14
I just posted on here yesterday (and on BlueSky)..that Israel WILL SABATOGE any deal... CousinIT 4 hrs ago #5
USrael, the thing with two heads. Maybe Musk could do something useful with his chainsaw? RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 4 hrs ago #6
Ben Gvir wants to flatten Beirut, essentially murdering its population of 2.4 million people. Lonestarblue 4 hrs ago #7
The Apprentice of the Sorcerer Kid Berwyn 4 hrs ago #8
Time to cut off all aid until there is a lasting peace multigraincracker 4 hrs ago #9
So much truth... Wounded Bear 2 hrs ago #13
No Justice. No Peace. LuvLoogie 2 hrs ago #16
Gee, who didn't see that coming! Native 2 hrs ago #12
The US needs to join our European allies in cutting support for Israel if they don't cooperate with the peace process ChicagoTeamster 2 hrs ago #15
If the U.S. were to cut off all support for Israel should they contine the war in Lebanon, that war would end today. Fil1957 2 hrs ago #17
Oh ffs themaguffin 1 hr ago #18

EdmondDantes_

(2,242 posts)
1. When nobody in a situation is trustworthy
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:45 PM
4 hrs ago

And two of the four groups (Israel and Hezbollah) aren't included, shockingly not a recipe for things to work smoothly.

snot

(11,900 posts)
10. Great comparison - LOVE that film!
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:33 PM
3 hrs ago

One of my all-time favorite opening scenes, among other things. Love everything Leone made.

snot

(11,900 posts)
14. I hear you, but
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:21 PM
2 hrs ago

one of the aspects of Leone's films that I love is that they bring us into intimate contact with the main characters – their glamour, their absurdity, their subjectivity, their essential, human inscrutability – while also gesturing toward larger political and existential contexts.

I'm not one for unduly slow movies, but in this case, I feel the pace serves a kind of Waiting for Godot-like purpose.

CousinIT

(12,855 posts)
5. I just posted on here yesterday (and on BlueSky)..that Israel WILL SABATOGE any deal...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:58 PM
4 hrs ago

..because Israel wants this war to EXPAND, not end. Bibi doesn't give a DAMN about the US except for the MONEY we keep giving him to commit genocide.

And since Trump has STUPIDLY hooked the US's wagon onto Israel in this debacle, we're fucked.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3679013

Lonestarblue

(13,596 posts)
7. Ben Gvir wants to flatten Beirut, essentially murdering its population of 2.4 million people.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:08 PM
4 hrs ago

That's almost half the total population of Lebanon to be killed with the delusional notion that a few Hezbollah fighters might be among those killed, just as Israel killed over 70,000 Palestinians in Gaza when there were fewer than 30,000 Hamas fighters, many of whom are still alive. And then after murdering millions, he wants to kidnap the women and children of Lebanon.

How many war crimes does Israel get to commit with impunity before world leaders do something to stop them?

multigraincracker

(38,237 posts)
9. Time to cut off all aid until there is a lasting peace
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:36 PM
4 hrs ago

between Israel and the other side. As long as they can afford a public health system that we can’t.

LuvLoogie

(9,004 posts)
16. No Justice. No Peace.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:28 PM
2 hrs ago

The U.S and Israel want order with policed peace. Justice is not in the calculus. It never has been.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,405 posts)
15. The US needs to join our European allies in cutting support for Israel if they don't cooperate with the peace process
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:28 PM
2 hrs ago

Fil1957

(948 posts)
17. If the U.S. were to cut off all support for Israel should they contine the war in Lebanon, that war would end today.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:37 PM
2 hrs ago

However neither Trump, nor any other president -- Democratic or Republican would ever do that. Don't ask me why.

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