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After the strike in Beirut, Lebanon, Iran canceled negotiations and was preparing to attack Israel, However, POTUS Trump offered last-minute concessions including "the preservation of Lebanon's territorial integrity, Israel's withdrawal from the Lebanon border, and the immediate lifting of the [US naval] blockade" (which was allegedly supposed to happen in 30 days, not immediately), as well as conceding that "the legal system for navigation in the Persian Gulf would be arranged in cooperation between Iran and Oman."
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hookaleft
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marble falls
(73,224 posts)hookaleft
(1,141 posts)this is from today.
marble falls
(73,224 posts)hookaleft
(1,141 posts)marble falls
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littlemissmartypants
(35,236 posts)
Cha
(321,349 posts)I do it when none is provided, especially in the OP.
Then the OP adds it, usually saying.. "Sorry, they forgot it." And the world is right again.
Mahalo, pants ☮️💙🌈🌊🍀
littlemissmartypants
(35,236 posts)We do have some interesting original writers here. But I know most of them.
I'm always asking questions anyway. 😺🤓
I'm a curious cat.
Mahalo, Cha! 🌼❤️🌞
Cha
(321,349 posts)And only logical and informative. 
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marble falls
(73,224 posts)... the exception to the rule is a situation that the details of which have been in many sources and in the news for several weeks. He didn't mention a single detail we all haven't read about on DU or in the news.
He wasn't quoting anyone or re-posting anything. I read it as a recounting of what we all knew about for several weeks.
Turbineguy
(40,265 posts)he can always lie, because that's what he does.
marble falls
(73,224 posts)
TheProle
(4,179 posts)Iranian state news.
Johnny2X2X
(24,522 posts)Gave up everything because it’s his birthday and wanted the deal signed on it and before the big wrestling show tonight at the White House.
D_Master81
(2,734 posts)So nothing on nuclear material or enrichment? Wasn’t that supposed to be the reason we had to attack them twice in the past year?
SamuelTheThird
(1,419 posts)
Bookreadingliberal53
(177 posts)Aaaaaaand there it is…
— MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2026-06-14T22:26:39.431Z
SamuelTheThird
(1,419 posts)Dangling0826
(62 posts)The Iranians just said, "Fine, we agree. Now get out." Nothing will change. If anything, Israel will probably strike within Lebanon again within the next few days, and Trump will find an excuse to say the ceasefire is still in force.
LetMyPeopleVote
(183,453 posts)Iran is going to get far money under the trump plan than Iran got from President Obama
Ex-GOP lawmaker rips 'bozo' Trump for 'giving Iran 20 times the money Obama did'
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-iran-2677037429/
"Trump lies constantly and he is desperate for the Iran war to be over," Kinzinger wrote in a post on X that accompanied a video. "So desperate that he's giving Iran 20 times the money Obama did, and getting nothing in return, except an open strait that Iran will charge a 'maintenance fee' to all ships. Well done, bozo."
In the video, recorded selfie-style from the driver's seat of his car, the ex-congressman argued that Trump's record of dishonesty has gutted Washington's credibility to the point that Americans now wait to hear Iran's version of events before believing their own government.
"It's because Donald Trump lies constantly, all the time," Kinzinger said. "The constant lies take away any version of credibility. And that is a terrible place for us to be in."
Then he ran the numbers as he sees them.
" Barack Obama gave Iran $1.5 billion and we lost our mind. And I think rightly so. We called that out," Kinzinger said. He claimed Trump "has already given Iran $3 billion," lifted sanctions on Iranian oil when the war started, and is now "set to give Iran an additional around $25 or $30 billion."
"Barack Obama, $1.5 billion. Donald Trump, 30-some billion," he said. "And we don't even have the nuke stuff."
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calimary
(91,263 posts)Where’s the fine print, and how much fine print IS there?
Can we see that?
ALL of it?
SergeStorms
(20,993 posts)flapping his gums again. How many times has he pulled this, "We have a deal" crap?
He's just trying to get Wall Street to skyrocket tomorrow morning before yanking the football away again.
This is getting old.
Aussie105
(8,300 posts)Which part offends you? Their form of government, religion or language?
Or you just soaked up the anti-Iran propaganda that has made the rounds for decades?
Anyhow, that's your problem.
Iran now has more reason than ever to develop some long range nukes.
When they do, the US will suddenly have to be polite to Iran.
Jack Valentino
(5,332 posts)seems about the same as OUR current 'leadership' !
Somebody should probably take OUR nuclear weapons away, until we have a SANE leadership,
which hopefully will happen by 2029...
PufPuf23
(10,001 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 14, 2026, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)
The 14 point deal looks infeasible on many specifics as well as total capitulation by the USA with no guarantees by Israel.
0rganism
(25,750 posts)bummer about the topic, but hey, you made it to 10000 of 'em.
1 question - you said
total capitalization by the USA
Did you mean
total capitulation by the USA
?
PufPuf23
(10,001 posts)You are correct that my fingers typed the wrong word so will fix.
0rganism
(25,750 posts)Thanks for the clarification, makes more sense to me this way.
ToxMarz
(3,134 posts)Because constantly threatening and bombing the shit out of them is only going to make them more determined (and not in and offensive posture but defensive). The way it's going we aren't going to know they have a nuke until after they already do, no matter how much we forcefully declare 'They can never have a nuke!'.
state of stupid
(237 posts)is not a deal. It is an agreement on what going to be negotiated and resolved to reach a deal.
BigmanPigman
(55,728 posts)Iran has psychologists on hand to "advise and respond" to psychopathic tRump's ever changing demands. That's smart! You need to know who/what you are dealing with on a realistic level. They know he's crazy and dying. Team Iran is smarter than Team tRump.
Aussie105
(8,300 posts)Time to celebrate!
Let there be fights under a metal arch in a thunderstorm, and where is my Noble peace prize?
Ray Bruns
(6,889 posts)
surfered
(14,832 posts)During his second term, he called it a terrible deal and whoever negotiated it (I repeat, it was him) was stupid. He tore up that deal by unilaterally imposing tariffs on Canada and Mexico.
The Art of the Deal negotiator is an idiot. I guarantee his deal with Iran will be much worse than the 2015 agreement he tore up.
LT Barclay
(3,229 posts)littlemissmartypants
(35,236 posts)Doesn't mean it's reality. He's a fucked up psychopath and he's not in touch with reality.
I'll believe him when he's dead. It makes about as much sense.
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Completely void of conscience and empathy
3. Adept at manipulating others
4. Willing to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willing to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willing to use force, intimidation, and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willing to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Completely lacking any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions cause
11. Rationalize their own immoral behavior
12. Attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own bad conduct
13. Will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Display utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of others
15. Exhibit pathological lying, will compulsively say anything without any concern for the truth to advance their own agendas
16. Able to fake normal human emotions and empathy with the exception of joy, laughter
17. Have a distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Totally fail to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strongly believe that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
https://psychopathyis.org/stats/
WSHazel
(890 posts)Now, it is likely that MEHR is exaggerating, but this is still a train wreck of an agreement for the U.S. A few highlights for me:
1) Trump sold the Iranian opposition down the river - See #2
2) Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz - this is not as big deal as it sounds because Iran can only charge so much for access and this could become a 4 way street with Saudi Arabia, UAE and Oman also charging for access.
3) The U.S. will never be able to get an embargo on another country again just because we ask for it, or at least not one on Iran.
What a colossal screw up by the Administration.
Mehr releases what it says are details of the Iran-US MoU:
— Shipwreck (@shipwreck75.bsky.social) 2026-06-14T23:04:21.260Z
MichMan
(17,550 posts)If it is, I don't understand why the UN is just sitting on their hands and letting anyone control it?
Dr. T
(789 posts)Iran is punking Dim Don. They're playing him like a fiddle.
Initech
(109,517 posts)
mvd
(65,980 posts)Trump’s incompetence knows no bounds.
Xolodno
(7,380 posts)...and plenty of hawks around him saying to go for it. He believed the bullshit without asking harder questions...not that he ever has.
Joke's on you white trash President. You believed the "we will be greeted as liberators" shit.
marble falls
(73,224 posts)Johnny2X2X
(24,522 posts)But even bots are having a tough time painting it as anything other than a failure.