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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn other news, three authoritarian fascists are paraded in effigies in Montreal by anti-fascist groups
drump, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and what appeared to be National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, hung by nooses, were paraded through Montreal on Sunday at an anti-fascist rally, according to videos published on social media by Montreal for Palestine.
RandySF
(86,699 posts)But some may want to show respect to the fascists that are ruining the world instead of the disrespect they deserve. Why do they get to kill people all over the world and we cant even make stupid effigies?
RandySF
(86,699 posts)Skittles
(173,137 posts)and don't think that someone like, for example, that gun humping freak Mangione is some kind of fucking "hero"
Eko
(10,147 posts)Is that illegal or did you just not really mean that?
Skittles
(173,137 posts)RandySF was right not to engage - DONE HERE
Eko
(10,147 posts)I find it immensely amusing when people make claims and then when questioned on that refuse to address it, change the subject and then run away. The promoting violence thing is a different argument entirely, one that we could have had but you decided not to for some reason. Probably cause that is a moral one and much harder to argue when the said parties in question have precipitated violence themselves on a large scale. When your argument is that effigies in hanging is a bad thing and the people in effigies have killed over a 100, 000 people, well, that argument just looses its energy. I mean really, knowing that this is going to the extreme would effigies of hitler being hanged promote violence or would it have been just a natural reaction? You are going to have to say no it wouldn't be promoting violence so that leaves a lot of room for it being a moral question which we would actually have to have a conversation on, one which you aren't prepared to argue on behalf of the said effigies. So you are done and I agree.
harumph
(3,435 posts)It's natural for an animal (or person) in extremis to defend themselves. If a lawful remedy is not available for victims.., more specifically, where the law has been co-opted by the perpetrators, it is natural that victims pursue extrajudicial means. I don't use the term "rights" because self defense transcends rights. Anybody that urges that victims must wait* for a lawful resolution even when the criminals write the laws is at best naive, worse a fool, and at worst, a gaslighter. Rights and laws are sandbags to stop rising water. They work until they impoverish, destroy and disenfranchise and then they fail quite spectacularly.
"Philosophy is the talk on a cereal box
Religion is the smile on a dog"
*"In the long run we are all dead"
Eko
(10,147 posts)RandySF
(86,699 posts)Now lets be adults.
Eko
(10,147 posts)The effigies thing is like taking a BB gun to a fight with an A10 Warthog and you are getting mad a those with a BB gun.
AloeVera
(4,457 posts)Isn't it?
NYT headline: Israel Passes Law to Hang Palestinians Convicted of Deadly Attacks
Experts say the law was written in such a way as to ensure that it was unlikely to ever apply to Jewish extremists who commit similar crimes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/30/world/middleeast/israel-death-penalty-palestinians-attacks.html
Convicted by MILITARY courts that have a 96% conviction rate, based on "confessions" obtained under duress or torture, limited appeal and no pardons as provided for under international conventions. Of course the settler-terrorists would be exempt.
People offended by mere hanging-effigies would surely be speaking out against this.
RandySF
(86,699 posts)Eko
(10,147 posts)Killing people in some of the worst ways known to man. That would be state sponsored barbarism. I am sure you don't support the people who created the effigies of political people being hanged as that is promoting violence so I can also be 100% sure you don't support the state that is promoting not only violence but barbaric violence and are quite willing to state so here. Right?
IcyPeas
(25,876 posts)Montreal mayor signals rethink of protest limits after hanging effigies
— (@canada-news.bsky.social) 2026-05-28T01:20:11+00:00
https://www.europesays.com/canada/64060/
The mayor of Montreal has questioned whether police should intervene more forcefully during protests after a downtown demonstrationâ¦
Eko
(10,147 posts)The mayors party is backed by real estate developers, big business and the pro-Israel lobby, according to its annual report
https://therover.ca/who-raises-money-for-the-mayor-of-montreal/
Well, maybe there is more to it than just the surface argument.
Good catch!
GenThePerservering
(3,806 posts)or protest symbolism. It's been done for hundreds of years and is purposely crude and graphic. It has to be as the message needs to clear.