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THE SURVEILLANCE STATESee Flock.
See ICE.
See the huge government databases with face recognition etc.
THE SATURATION OF AI
Trillions of dollars going into these things.
All driven by the Tech Bros.
Special tax abatements drive everybody else's taxes up.
Special low electricity rates drive everybody else's electrical rates up.
Think 100 MILLION gallons of water per day.
These are the same people that gave us DOGE.
DOGE stole taxpayer data to load into their AIs.
THE COST OF THE IRAQ WAR
$100 billion at least by now, probably much more.
DOUBLING the Pentagon budget.
Trump used up half our stockpile of critical missile systems in 30 days.
Wil take 10 years to rebuild.
What did we accomplish in Iran?
BILLIONAIRES
Musk: $833,000,000,000.00
Page and Brin (Google): $610,000,000,000.00
Bezos: $272.000.000.000.00
Ellison: $241,000,000,000.00
Zuckerberg: $218,000,000,000.00
Average tax rate for all of them, under 4%
EPSTEIN
'nuff said?
And then follow this with real proposals to reverse things, such as:
- Hold the AI companies accountable for stealing intellectual property and copyrighted material.
- Force all the Big Data companies to allow citizens to opt out of their databases.
- Leave Iran now and negotiate a resumption of the JCPOA.
- Require new data centers to pay the same electrical, water, and property tax rates as average citizens.
- 3% annual wealth tax on everybody with net worth over $100M will bring in $250Bn a year that we can use on schools, hospitals, Medicare for all, free education, free beer, free football tickets.
- Independent counsel to prosecute the entire Epstein gang
These are issues where some MAGA people will even agree with us.
Americans across the political spectrum are totally pissed about these things.
MichMan
(17,471 posts)What will be the process for appraising everyone's net worth to a) determine who is eligible for the tax, and b) calculate how much they owe?
Total wealth includes things like businesses, investments, real estate and homes, household furnishings, vehicles, collectibles, jewelry, artwork, and everything else people might own. Haven't heard anyone explain how this would be done.
Bluetus
(3,162 posts)Democrats naturally think about good government and reasonable policies.
We have to stop doing that. It is a disease.
I don't give a F how we assess those things. As far as I'm concerned, we can use the Forbes numbers. The important thing is that we have a completely unjustified, undeserved, immoral, unsustainable concentration of wealth. Either we claw that back through elections and laws or else there will eventually be an "Eat the Rich" revolution, and that could happen sooner than you think.
pat_k
(14,054 posts)A one-time graduated levy on assets with these targets
20% on assets in excess of 500 million.
From 15% to 20% on assets from 200 to 500 million
From 10% and 15% on assets from 50 million to 200 million
From 5% to 10% on assets from 10 million to 50 million
I've pulled these numbers out of my ass, but I have no doubt such a one time levy would make a decent start.
Since 1981 the corrupt Republican project has transferred more than 50 trillion from the bottom 90% to the top 1 %.
It's time for the beneficiaries to start contributing their fair share. Without a strong public sector they would never have amassed the wealth they have. They have hoarded a lion's share of our collective resources long enough.
So, while we figure out what those who benefit the most from a strong public sector should be contributing EVERY year, we start with a one-time levy. And by strong public sector, I mean one that ensures an educated, healthy electorate, enforcement of constitutional rights, robust judicial system, safety nets to protect against the excesses of capitalism, infrastructure, national security, and on and on
Not even running through what the lower rates would generate,
A one-time 20% levy on net assets exceeding $500 million would generate an estimated $500 billion to $1 trillion in federal revenue.
A one-time levy of 15% on the assets of individuals in the $200 million to $500 million range is estimated to raise roughly $150 billion to $200 billion nationally, depending on the exact number of households and assuming a 15% tax avoidance rate.
On edit. Why "one-time"?
A one-time levy as a start:
1. Is hell of a lot harder to "plan for" and avoid.
2. Steep payment is more acceptable as a "one-time" payment.
3. Successfully passing such a one-time levy on wealth sets a precedent that the "can't be done" naysayers can't argue with. It sets the stage for a wealth tax becoming a standard revenue generating vehicle.
pat_k
(14,054 posts)We MUST fight back on this. I am SICK TO DEATH with the number of Democratic electeds and candidates who tiptoe around and allow their horrific lies stand.
And this is the rhetoric that does it EFFECTIVELY:
Freedom to be Ourselves: Defeating MAGA's Anti-Trans Attacks.
The entire Freedom Over Fascism Toolkit below. I think every person in office or running needs to be sent a copy of this with a STRONG push to heed the guidance. If enough of us send this to our Democratic electeds and candidates perhaps they will actually pay attention and learn how to repeat, and repeat the same themes.
It is updated constantly with rapid response links
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s0JbXhND7-1iqABNcUNL031NQLxkLfr-USkCKGZTidI/mobilebasic
Bluetus
(3,162 posts)We have to think strategically. We cannot help anyone if we can't win the elections. The issues I laid out, I believe, are the ones with the most electoral power in 2026.
We shouldn't be backing ANY Dems for office if they are not strong supporters of LGBT rights. But that doesn't make a great campaign ad in 2026.
There are a bunch of other issues I care deeply about that I didn't list here. My point is that these are issues that the public is really angry about, and can turn elections. We need to try to get to the front of that parade.
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leftstreet
(41,305 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,104 posts)As Bill Clinton said, 'It's the economy stupid".
Bluetus
(3,162 posts)is the corruption that has brought us all these tech bros, data centers, the Iran war and the vast concentration of wealth.
The smart candidates will tie these things together. Platner is doing a good job of that in Maine. We need EVERYBODY on that plan.
What I'm trying to say is that we should not be talking about gas prices and other prices in isolation. These things are a DIRECT result of our broken system. The solution isn't to impose price control on gas and carrots. The solution lies with breaking up the monopolies, taxing the ultra-wealthy, banning stock and crypto trading by high government officials and holding social media accountable for the damage they are doing to our society. We need to be educating the public to make these connections.