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According to an AtlasIntel poll being shown on MSNOW during Kris Jansing's show, voters answered that beef, electricity, coffee, gas, chicken, bread, milk and housing all cost less under Biden. The answers were usually skewed about twenty to thirty percent for cheaper under Biden. For example, 55% said coffee was cheaper under Biden, cimpared to twenty three percent for trump.
The actual question was, "for each item, do you think it cost less under Bien or trump?
This poll shows that B.S. and bluster can only carry you so far. Telling voters that gas prices are down (a blatant lie) isn't gonna fly. And saying you're not thinking about affordability "even a little bit" isn't helping.
malaise
(297,802 posts)Rec
Lovie777
(23,645 posts)gerrymandering and the UC SC 6 decision.
Why?
senseandsensibility
(25,475 posts)approving of their efforts to respond to Rs gerrymandering, and the Rs only for their own gerrymandering. Maybe a question like which party has addressed redistricting more fairly? But yes, I would definitely like to see a question about the SC.
lostincalifornia
(5,512 posts)Last edited Wed May 13, 2026, 05:24 PM - Edit history (1)
incompetence during his first term, along with his active role in trying to overthrow the government by his involvement in overturning an election, but when he ran for the second term, he told you exactly what he was going to do.
Probably the worst animosity I feel is toward those supposed self-identified progressives who REFUSED to vote for VP Harris, by either not voting, or voting third party. The same bullshit they did in 2016. Thank-you jackasses for the supreme court we have today, and most likely for decades to come because of your stupidity.
senseandsensibility
(25,475 posts)I think some just didn't want to see. Why? That is the million-dollar question.
lostincalifornia
(5,512 posts)thucythucy
(9,138 posts)"the progressive agenda being held hostage by abortion rights"--saying there was no way Roe v. Wade would be rolled back even if Bush II or Trump won.
And Susan Sarandon saying electing Trump would be a good thing because it would hasten "the revolution"--whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean.
Hell, I remember one of these folks saying there was no difference between Bush and Kerry, and Nader saying that Gore was a :faux environmentalist."
The same stupid shit again and again and again. And it's always the most vulnerable among us who pay the cost.
PATRICK
(12,411 posts)is reinforced by social media and cell phone. The drive and purpose is to generate obscure or wrong feelings to the exact benefit of the GOP overlords. Giving the rationales or facts contained within, wildly interpreted by divided groups, this is simple sheep herding. I had occasion to be stuck with my wife's cell phone and merely sampled the stench of this overall blind push to understand the madness of what pushed even intelligent people to be "outraged over Biden's stepdown", " disapproving of Kamala" both-siderism, centrist abandonment of the base, etc. so even blacks and minorities went to non-voting or actually voting for Trump! And actually wanted to sleepwalk through trump bluster part 2. Oh, and the price of eggs.
Not enough however to convince me that the fine tuning of trump's "victory" was total fraud, once again quickly acquiesced to by the Party that promised a fight and was "surprised" again. Personal speculation: I doubt that the internal analysis will mention that, like Hillary, once victory seemed assured our special special big donors softened the agenda. I see the Party participating in the media shitshow, but not getting it much less fighting it. Gerrymandering they know how to do! Many other vote suppression tactics still blow them away.
calimary
(90,695 posts)VERY hard to disagree.
DemocracyForever
(176 posts)with Nader. That's where this nightmare started.
lostincalifornia
(5,512 posts)DemocracyForever
(176 posts)Initech
(109,224 posts)Trump won because he wouldn't shut the fuck up. We could have stopped this when we had the chance, but the media just totally keeled over.
DemocracyForever
(176 posts)According to the media in 2000, Bush could do no wrong. It was all a lie.
usonian
(26,524 posts)
calimary
(90,695 posts)As Rod Stewart song said: every picture tells a story, dont it!
usonian
(26,524 posts)BattleRow
(2,689 posts)I.E., mobile home shopping cart.
GreenWave
(12,777 posts)for each item, do you think it cost less under Bien or trump?
for each item, do you think it cost(s) less now or a few years ago?
There are a lot of brainwashed people against Biden or (Bien?) and this could eliminate the hateful lie.
I am saying the poll could represent Maga bias rather than what they actually feel.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,860 posts)Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion, people. Other than coffee, gas, eggs, meat, the rotten produce, yeah, I guess things are much better.
55%, sheesh!