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gab13by13

(32,641 posts)
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:19 AM Yesterday

Crude Oil Is Down 9% Today

Here we go again with the market manipulation just to protect Krasnov.

Gas was at the point that it was taking over $100 for Magats to fill up their pickup trucks.

Once again we are being told that crude has dropped because a peace plan may be happening. How many times has this excuse been made to lower the price of crude? How many Krasnov relatives made a killing betting on the price of crude today?

A tanker blew up and caught on fire trying to go through Hormuz. Israel is talking about bombing Iran again. Iran is bombing oil facilities in the UAE and the price of crude falls 9%, sorry, as W said fool me once shame on me, fool me 3 or 4 times, I forget the next line.

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Crude Oil Is Down 9% Today (Original Post) gab13by13 Yesterday OP
Old men and oil companies Delarage Yesterday #1
Energy independence would be nice, but the US is tied into the global market. Omnipresent Yesterday #4
Yup Delarage 15 hrs ago #22
There's No Conspiracy ProfessorGAC Yesterday #2
It was more rational when OPEC controlled the price, gab13by13 Yesterday #8
Can't Agree ProfessorGAC Yesterday #13
Japan SamuelTheThird Yesterday #15
Well strike up the freakin' band and have a parade. twodogsbarking Yesterday #3
Bust the Trust. multigraincracker Yesterday #5
Trump is pretending we have a deal again Johnny2X2X Yesterday #6
It's also possible the price went down (now on its way back up) because they think The Rapist will have to stop muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #7
These stupid bastards are still under the delusion that Stinky is going to pull us out of this mess. Ray Bruns Yesterday #9
I doubt that anybody with $10 in their wallet takes Trump's pronouncements on Iran seriously at this point. hay rick Yesterday #10
But hey! My 401K will go up a lot today! Happy Hoosier Yesterday #11
Iran lives, Islam lives. MAGAs will be crestfallen. Now, back to the Epstein files! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Yesterday #12
And he threatened to "hit harder" today and it is rising right back up again (as I posted in another thread) BumRushDaShow Yesterday #14
Of course, you mean crude oil *futures* Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #16
Meanwhile, AAA reports of national pump price averages have trended upwards day by day nitpicked 19 hrs ago #17
In my town the prices have fluctuated by 20-30 cents/litre every week Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #20
Any interesting massive trades... returnee 19 hrs ago #18
Did your gas pump price drop 9% ? republianmushroom 19 hrs ago #19
The US has escorted some tankers through the straits. Melon 18 hrs ago #21

Delarage

(2,612 posts)
1. Old men and oil companies
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:30 AM
Yesterday

Several times Democrats have made headway against oil companies---with tremendous backlash (Bush v. Gore; Russia/Trump vs. Clinton/Harris)--so now it has been confirmed for me that oil is the lifeblood of corruption and control. We could easily become energy-independent (alternative sources--even nuclear) but instead we pay wind companies to cancel their projects, cancelled all of Clinton's energy initiatives, cancelled Biden's initiatives.

As Midnight Oil pointed out---nothing's as precious as a hole in the ground.

Omnipresent

(7,504 posts)
4. Energy independence would be nice, but the US is tied into the global market.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:08 AM
Yesterday

US oil production is sold here and abroad. Oil companies aren’t regulated to only selling to the US.
We can “Drill baby drill!” all we want to just supply US consumers in the false hope of keeping prices low, but the reality is that any overseas calamity would still affect the price.

Delarage

(2,612 posts)
22. Yup
Wed May 6, 2026, 06:44 PM
15 hrs ago

I basically meant independence from fossil fuels....but even if we cut that cord, all this nonsense elsewhere would affect prices of other goods here.

ProfessorGAC

(77,156 posts)
2. There's No Conspiracy
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:39 AM
Yesterday

You are trying to attribute logic to an irrational system.
The market acts irrationally and requires no shadowy background to explain overreaction on price.

gab13by13

(32,641 posts)
8. It was more rational when OPEC controlled the price,
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:40 AM
Yesterday

and not market manipulators, certainly the invisible hand of the market was a joke.

The word I hear all of the time that makes me shudder is, "perception." When markets are based on perception they can certainly be manipulated.

ProfessorGAC

(77,156 posts)
13. Can't Agree
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:43 AM
Yesterday

Just because it is no longer rational, doesn't make it any easier to manipulate than when OPEC could affect prices by simply turning pumps up or down.
Plus, the market back then still reacted to world events.
I still think the marketeers are looking for their short term gains so they overreact to every event.

multigraincracker

(37,956 posts)
5. Bust the Trust.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:16 AM
Yesterday

Time to break up Big Oil. When the same big corporations own the oil fields, oil transportation, refineries and retail stores, we are their victims.

Johnny2X2X

(24,387 posts)
6. Trump is pretending we have a deal again
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:29 AM
Yesterday

This is just market manipulation. The oil speculators know Trump is full of shit, but they're just playing the game.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,502 posts)
7. It's also possible the price went down (now on its way back up) because they think The Rapist will have to stop
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:35 AM
Yesterday

fucking around and changing his mind every few hours, and a negotiated settlement would mean stability.

Ray Bruns

(6,638 posts)
9. These stupid bastards are still under the delusion that Stinky is going to pull us out of this mess.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:50 AM
Yesterday

Maddening.

hay rick

(9,690 posts)
10. I doubt that anybody with $10 in their wallet takes Trump's pronouncements on Iran seriously at this point.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:50 AM
Yesterday

It might have been a profitable play the first time or two but now Trump's just the chubby little boy who called "BULL!" way too often.

Happy Hoosier

(9,592 posts)
11. But hey! My 401K will go up a lot today!
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:10 AM
Yesterday

That's certainly worth the Trump clan making billions on this scheme, right?

BumRushDaShow

(171,672 posts)
14. And he threatened to "hit harder" today and it is rising right back up again (as I posted in another thread)
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:45 AM
Yesterday

Snapshot just after 9 am -

Fiendish Thingy

(23,852 posts)
16. Of course, you mean crude oil *futures*
Wed May 6, 2026, 10:06 AM
Yesterday

Which makes sense, given the rumours of cessation of hostilities and reopening of Hormuz.

If it happens, expect futures to plummet, and if it doesn’t, expect the ongoing roller coaster.

While there has definitely been an element of manipulation/insider trading in this war, much of it is attributable to the mercurial incompetence of one man.

nitpicked

(1,947 posts)
17. Meanwhile, AAA reports of national pump price averages have trended upwards day by day
Wed May 6, 2026, 02:11 PM
19 hrs ago

Not yo-yoing every hour with every latest bulletin.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,852 posts)
20. In my town the prices have fluctuated by 20-30 cents/litre every week
Wed May 6, 2026, 03:14 PM
18 hrs ago

But yes, the general trend is upward.

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