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senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:03 PM 20 hrs ago

So I watched the entire CA Dem Governor debate last night

Here's my takeaway: The R candidates are cartoon characters, although the British one was more likeable than the sheriff guy. More importantly, all of the Dem candidates were qualified, serious, and able to lead the largest state in the union. I would vote for any of them without hesitation.

Matt Mahon: I went into the debate with more knowledge about him than some of the others, since I live in Silicon Valley and he is the mayor of the largest city in SV. He played that up, was relaxed and camera ready, and said he would stand up to "big tech" when he was called on it. However, his efforts to "both sides" issues was not appealing to me. He did seem knowledgeable about addressing homelessness and had a record of addressing it in San Jose.

Xavier Becerra: He was calm, knowledgeable, and low key, as one would expect. But he was not afraid to speak his mind and play up his experience. One of my favorite parts was when he was challenged about the California Highway Patrol stopping truck drivers and giving them "English proficiency" tests. He spoke to that in a way tha I think will appeal to our huge Hispanic population here as well as other Democratic voters. He also spoke about his own impressive biography (something I wish he would do more) and how he was the first in his family to graduate from college.

Tom Steyer: He seemed to be presenting himself as the front runner. I'm not saying he was cocky, but he did not waste time attacking other candidates. He defended himself and his billionaire status, saying he would be glad to pay more taxes and he and his wife had agreed to give away all their money in their lifetimes. His demeanor was energetic and passionate about progressive causes, including ending homelessness and taxation.

Katie Porter: Put on the defensive at the beginning about her treatment of an aide that went viral, she apologized and tried to put it behind her. After that, she played up her "professor" persona and made many good points. I was reminded of why she was so good in congressional hearings. Teaching experience definitely translates to good communication skills.

Bottom line I am still supporting Becerra. However, I will vote for the Dem candidate no matter who it is. And so will the candidates. They were asked to pledge to support the eventual candidtate of their party and all the Dems agreed to do so.

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So I watched the entire CA Dem Governor debate last night (Original Post) senseandsensibility 20 hrs ago OP
Mahan is not a Democrat obamanut2012 19 hrs ago #1
I don't really know how to respond to that since you didn't provide senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago #2
He's running as a Dem, but is a spoiler for the elites FoggyLake 18 hrs ago #8
You don't ahve to respond, it's fine -- we can agree to disagree obamanut2012 18 hrs ago #9
Anyone talk about non profit healthcare? ICE? leftstreet 19 hrs ago #3
It was, unfortunately, a very controlled debate with strict time limits senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #4
Oh, wow. 30 seconds! leftstreet 18 hrs ago #5
You know I hope I got that right senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #6
Well, there are 61 candidates on the ballot Retrograde 18 hrs ago #14
Totally agree Lifeafter70 17 hrs ago #19
My Granny did the Depression in South Dakota... BurnDoubt 7 hrs ago #35
I think Porter's a bit out of her depth... OhioBack2Blue 6 hrs ago #36
To me it's about who can manage a large state bucolic_frolic 18 hrs ago #7
Good luck CA. Icanthinkformyself 18 hrs ago #10
Snark appreciated senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #12
You could start by doing some research on Steyer before commenting. Sibelius Fan 17 hrs ago #20
Yes he deserves a lot of credit for Prop 50 senseandsensibility 16 hrs ago #22
Youtube link for the full debate ... aggiesal 18 hrs ago #11
Yes, I watched it live on our local KRON station. senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #13
I watched the entire debate as well... ultralite001 18 hrs ago #15
Such is the nature of competition senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #17
Thanks for watching Lifeafter70 17 hrs ago #16
Hope your son is okay! senseandsensibility 17 hrs ago #18
He is in Hospice Lifeafter70 14 hrs ago #28
Well, that certainly puts things in perspective. senseandsensibility 14 hrs ago #29
Promises to support the eventual Democratic candidate ring hollow Bobstandard 16 hrs ago #21
I guess I have a little more patience senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago #23
I have a sense of impending doom Bobstandard 15 hrs ago #24
More people are waking up senseandsensibility 14 hrs ago #26
Thanks. 🙏 Bobstandard 13 hrs ago #32
Thanks senseandsensibility for this post, I didn't watch the debate and appreciate your summary. ShazamIam 14 hrs ago #25
Steyer, Becerra, Porter............. Lovie777 14 hrs ago #27
Best case scenario relayerbob 13 hrs ago #30
That would be a hoot! senseandsensibility 13 hrs ago #31
I support Becerra too..... State the Obvious 11 hrs ago #33
I have liked Becerra ever since I first heard of him! n/t oldsoldierfadingfast 10 hrs ago #34
Becerra or Steyer would be fine Sympthsical 4 hrs ago #37
No such thing as a good billionaire. AllyCat 5 min ago #38

obamanut2012

(29,445 posts)
1. Mahan is not a Democrat
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 02:02 PM
19 hrs ago

He is a literal Trojan Horse candidate funded by SV tech bros. For real. This isn't me bashing Dems, it's a known fact here. He is a spoiler.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
2. I don't really know how to respond to that since you didn't provide
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 02:13 PM
19 hrs ago

any source for your assertion. However, Mahon ran for mayor as a D, is running for Governor as a D, and recently told a a local newspaper that he is a lifelong Dem. He is not progressive enough for me, but I think he is still a Dem.

FoggyLake

(315 posts)
8. He's running as a Dem, but is a spoiler for the elites
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:00 PM
18 hrs ago

$12 million donations from Silicon Valley billionaires. He is currently polling at around 5%, which smells like spoiler to me. Republicans will do anything to game the jungle primary. But I guess if he says he's a Dem, then he must be because politicians never lie.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
4. It was, unfortunately, a very controlled debate with strict time limits
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 02:20 PM
18 hrs ago

All of the candidates were cut off after 30 seconds and they had to answer the questions presented and stay on topic. I do think that most of them referred disparagingly to Trump's immigration policies and healthcare in general but I wish more questions had been asked on those topics.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
6. You know I hope I got that right
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 02:31 PM
18 hrs ago

I'm going by memory since I didn't take notes or anything during the debate. I thought that's what they said, but I can confirm that it was a very short time period and the questions were very concise, so if candidates were not asked specifically about something it was hard to work it in.

Retrograde

(11,434 posts)
14. Well, there are 61 candidates on the ballot
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:18 PM
18 hrs ago

Got my sample ballot yesterday - not the longest list I've seen, but substantial. I assume the debate just picked the top pollers (LivingForGodAndCountry DeMott probably doesn't stand a chance). I'm leaning towards Becerra: several terms in Congress, California Attorney General (he was Kamala Harris's replacement), and Secretary of Heath and Human Services under Biden - a long and diversified history. I got, tired of Steyer's incessant ads months ago. I think Porter's a bit out of her depth, and Mahan needs to finish his first term as mayor of San Jose (and do more than show up on the local news on a regular basis). And the Republican candidates are right out: my grandfather told me to never vote for a Republican and I still heed his advice.

Lifeafter70

(1,149 posts)
19. Totally agree
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:41 PM
17 hrs ago

I only looked into the top three. Steyer has some creds but really disliked his campaign style.
Bercerra adds are just now showing up.
I'm in the Reno area right now caring for my son so don't get too many of their tv campaign adds. I have been looking into their public service and Bercerra comes out on top for me.
I get home one week out of the month and really disliked the Steyer's TV adds.

BurnDoubt

(1,829 posts)
35. My Granny did the Depression in South Dakota...
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 02:01 AM
7 hrs ago

and she told me she would NEVER vote for a Republican. She never missed an Election in her ninety years. I’m following in her footsteps and I always think of her when I vote. I’m so glad she didn’t have to watch our descent into madness.

OhioBack2Blue

(156 posts)
36. I think Porter's a bit out of her depth...
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 02:51 AM
6 hrs ago

Really dude? You couldn't come up with something more specifically performance based...just sexism/ misogyny. (I stand by my comment even if you are afab or trans female).

bucolic_frolic

(55,478 posts)
7. To me it's about who can manage a large state
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 02:57 PM
18 hrs ago

What on their resume indicates such experience or ability.

Icanthinkformyself

(408 posts)
10. Good luck CA.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:09 PM
18 hrs ago

Choose wisely. If Steyer is serious about what he and his wife will do with their wealth they could start by funding non-profit progressive media. I am aware that he supports the CA billionaire tax proposal. What number would he and his billionaire friends be comfy with? We don't want to over stress them and force them to make empty threats. like leaving.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
12. Snark appreciated
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:11 PM
18 hrs ago

And I mean that sincerely. Billionaires can take it. I will say that he made a fairly good impression on me. He seemed sincere and enthusiastic about progressive causes. I'm not supporting him, but I would definitely vote for him if he was the nominee.

Sibelius Fan

(24,848 posts)
20. You could start by doing some research on Steyer before commenting.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:48 PM
17 hrs ago

Funding progressive issues? Steyer was the main funder that got Prop 50 on the ballot and passed. He spent $87-million in one election funding D candidates who were not him. He has a long history of writing the check for progressive issues. I understand he was one of Obama’s primary funders.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
22. Yes he deserves a lot of credit for Prop 50
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 04:35 PM
16 hrs ago

I usually remember to say that when I write about him so thanks for the reminder. Didn't know about funding Obama. I think he's been pretty solidly and demonstrably progressive for the past couple of decades at least. He's not some fly by night Dem who just swooped in for the Governor's race.

aggiesal

(10,861 posts)
11. Youtube link for the full debate ...
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:10 PM
18 hrs ago

Unfortunately it's from NewsNation, which is a RQ rag
There is a KTLA broadcast, but they are using the NewsNation feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Xd8xdLbbADw?si=n8QLijzVDu1FVg7o

ultralite001

(2,600 posts)
15. I watched the entire debate as well...
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:20 PM
18 hrs ago

Becerra comported himself well.

The biggest take away I had of the entire evening -- what a collection of interesting ideas + energies...
If these individuals could set aside their political personas + combine forces in a coalition / collaboration
focused on California's many problems... they could drive solutions that benefit all Californians + create a
robust model that could be game-changing for the rest of the nation.

There was a time when Americans worked together to solve problems... That focus needs to be resurrected
now... These folks could provide solutions our nation is craving -- much like Mandami is doing for New Yorkers...

At least this debate left me hopeful rather than depressed + shaking my head...

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
17. Such is the nature of competition
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:28 PM
17 hrs ago

and probably the biggest reason I could never be a politician. They have no choice but to try to stand out. In this case, the stakes are extremely high. Whoever wins the D nomination is basically the next Governor. As Carville used to say, "politics ain't beanbag". At this point, we can only hope that they will come together and help each other once there's a nominee.

Lifeafter70

(1,149 posts)
16. Thanks for watching
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 03:27 PM
17 hrs ago

Unfortunately I'm out of state caring for my son so was unable to do so.
I have been researching all but Mahon, and have the same take away as you.
I find Becerra to be the most qualified but will support whatever dem goes on ro the general.

Lifeafter70

(1,149 posts)
28. He is in Hospice
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 06:49 PM
14 hrs ago

My grandso and I take turns caring for him.
We have good days and bad days but are grateful for whatever time we have with him.
His cancer (acc) is slow growing, he has been battling it since 2016.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
29. Well, that certainly puts things in perspective.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 06:53 PM
14 hrs ago

I am so sorry. You are really doing the work of angels.

Bobstandard

(2,338 posts)
21. Promises to support the eventual Democratic candidate ring hollow
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 04:31 PM
16 hrs ago

By refusing to drop out of the race, lower polling candidates make it more likely that no Democrat will emerge from the primary. A two Republican general is frighteningly possible.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
23. I guess I have a little more patience
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 05:40 PM
15 hrs ago

It seems to be down to three (I don't count Mahon in my calculation) finalists: Steyer, Becerra, and Porter. That's a lot more clarity than we had a few days ago. These are three strong candidates and I am willing to give them and the voters a little more time to sort it out.

Bobstandard

(2,338 posts)
24. I have a sense of impending doom
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 06:15 PM
15 hrs ago

I used to be an inveterate optimist but recent events have disabused me of that.

senseandsensibility

(25,251 posts)
26. More people are waking up
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 06:36 PM
14 hrs ago

That's reflected in the polls, so it's not just my wishful thinking. Even the media seems to be more skeptical in their coverage than they were a few months ago. I did feel like you did then, but I am gradually becoming more positive. I hope you are able to feel some of that as things evolve.

ShazamIam

(3,148 posts)
25. Thanks senseandsensibility for this post, I didn't watch the debate and appreciate your summary.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 06:33 PM
14 hrs ago

Lovie777

(23,287 posts)
27. Steyer, Becerra, Porter.............
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 06:41 PM
14 hrs ago

the 3 to watch.

Who ever the top person is, California Dems will support.

relayerbob

(7,444 posts)
30. Best case scenario
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:31 PM
13 hrs ago

Both candidates end up Dems. I prefer Beccera, but a race him and Steyer would be good.

Sympthsical

(11,042 posts)
37. Becerra or Steyer would be fine
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:16 AM
4 hrs ago

I'm still a little fence-sitting on it, but I think I'm going to go with Steyer. I just don't get the feeling Becerra will shake up Sacramento to any real, tangible degree. We need someone who will break the ball-grip lobbyists have in this state, and maybe he'll do it. Maybe not.

Becerra would be competent, though. So if it is him, that's fine. Just fine. Not amazing. But fine. It would just feel a little . . . stagnant, for lack of a better word. But the idea of a billionaire just waltzing in and throwing money down doesn't sit great with me, which is why I'm very, "Ehhhhh . . . ." about deciding.

Just going to hang on to my ballot until late May and see where we are with polling and things. Still plenty of time.

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