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Qutzupalotl

(15,841 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 11:30 AM 5 hrs ago

Thune plans to suspend oversight of ICE for 3 years

Senate Republicans Have a Plan to Suspend Congressional Oversight of ICE for Trump’s Whole Term talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/senate-...

Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) 2026-04-23T14:44:21.809Z


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Do not let Thune’s description fool you. The plan hatched by Senate and House Republicans, backed by President Trump, to ram a bad if not pestilential bill through by wielding the mighty budget process is a virtual coup. That budget reconciliation, which is not intended to be used for several years of controversial appropriating, allows the Senate to pass legislation with a simple, 51-vote majority. Republicans will be able to pass what they want without any Democratic support, and with few opportunities for Democratic opposition. The process brooks little scrutiny or challenge. It strikes like lightning and steamrolls over democracy’s opposition.

The DHS reconciliation bill, Republican leadership has said, will go far beyond the expected year’s funding for ICE. As a result, it will cloak ICE from congressional reform for three years — not one, but three, explicitly for Trump’s whole term — armoring officers against any future attempts, by, say, a Democratic House after January, to deal with its abuses. The legislation, as described, would swell two immigration police machines, ICE and Customs and Border Protection (CBP), to a combined size more than double that of any other federal police force. It would launch a massive, cruel empire of detention and deportation to catch and imprison hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of almost entirely innocuous and helpless people. If congressional Democrats — and hopefully a few Republicans — are going to do their best to wage a battle against this, then, given the forced pace of the budget process, there is no time to lose.
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Trump’s allies have fueled debate about whether Trump would send ICE agents to the polls during the next election. Recently the Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, discussed doing so. He told the Conservative Political Action Conference on March 28 that he couldn’t understand why anyone would disagree with a president deploying federal agents to the polls. That is a subject beyond this article, but whatever Trump’s political calculations, just thinking about the practical realities, with this bill, Trump will have enough masked and armed ICE agents and overtime pay for all the unwelcome deployments he wants.

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Thune plans to suspend oversight of ICE for 3 years (Original Post) Qutzupalotl 5 hrs ago OP
Nope, no problems with ICE! tanyev 5 hrs ago #1
He wont have a choice in 2027 because his ass Johonny 5 hrs ago #2
First thing come Jan 2027 -- impeach not only the orange one but his Cabinet as well. Be relentless!! nt in2herbs 3 hrs ago #11
Exactly! Fuck these Trump ass kissing goons, they all need to be fired! Initech 3 hrs ago #16
I second that Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #24
Kick dalton99a 5 hrs ago #3
What could possibly go wrong? Fuck ICE! Initech 4 hrs ago #4
Thune refuses to do his job for 3 years? n/t FSogol 4 hrs ago #5
If they can get this done as a Reconciliation Bill maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #6
Fine let them have their goon squad for 6 more months. Volaris 3 hrs ago #18
Why am I starting to feel sick? calimary 4 hrs ago #7
Because Big Brother is here? LoisB 3 hrs ago #12
Laying the groundwork for the overthrow of our country.... These people have to be put in jail. ashredux 4 hrs ago #8
Laying the groundwork? It's already in progress. johnnyfins 3 hrs ago #21
How will we be able to tell the difference? (n/m) Soul_of_Wit 4 hrs ago #9
Generally speaking, those who have power fight to keep it. These Republicans LoisB 3 hrs ago #10
Not sure how senate rules are, so i'm asking that bluestarone 3 hrs ago #13
With Dem majorities in both Congressional chambers, yes. WestMichRad 3 hrs ago #14
The Pontius Pilate caucus. They wash their hands of all responsibility. Mblaze 3 hrs ago #15
Thune wants to shovel $billions to Felon4547's personal army to Ilsa 3 hrs ago #17
Disgusting, evil, dumb... the GOP in a nutshell LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #19
Doubling down on fascism. eom Exp 3 hrs ago #20
It would have been smarter to resolve DHS funding through appropriations instead of giving up all leverage for the next tritsofme 2 hrs ago #22
Things have to come to a head sooner or later. This makes it sooner. Compromising to retain a shred of power becomes KPN 2 hrs ago #25
Republican congressional members are traitors. Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #23
Have any of you Traildogbob 1 hr ago #26
These fuckers are criminals. spanone 1 hr ago #27

Johonny

(26,388 posts)
2. He wont have a choice in 2027 because his ass
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 11:41 AM
5 hrs ago

Is getting kicked to the curb in November. These fuck faced cowards deserve no votes. They have failed the American people. Worthless crap the whole GOP. Fuck 'em.

in2herbs

(4,464 posts)
11. First thing come Jan 2027 -- impeach not only the orange one but his Cabinet as well. Be relentless!! nt
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 12:48 PM
3 hrs ago

Initech

(108,982 posts)
16. Exactly! Fuck these Trump ass kissing goons, they all need to be fired!
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:06 PM
3 hrs ago

And so does he!

maxsolomon

(38,945 posts)
6. If they can get this done as a Reconciliation Bill
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 12:01 PM
4 hrs ago

then there's nothing Dems can do to stop it. Only the Parliamentarian can save us.

This will be the 2nd Reconciliation Bill so no more.

Volaris

(11,759 posts)
18. Fine let them have their goon squad for 6 more months.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:11 PM
3 hrs ago

But if this is the kind of hardball they think they want to play, then I want fucking PAIN come january.
Oh, ok...first up? A budget reconciliation bill that pays for all Healthcare for all Americans for the next Congressional term...JUST 2 years guys...20 dollar copay and the bill goes to Treasury.
TRY and strip it back after 24 months, and watch how fast what's left of your excuse of a political party gets utterly destroyed by your own voters.

Fuck you, you ASKED FOR THIS KNIFE FIGHT, so you can spend the next decade crying to fox news about it you fucking babies.

ashredux

(2,940 posts)
8. Laying the groundwork for the overthrow of our country.... These people have to be put in jail.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 12:41 PM
4 hrs ago

LoisB

(13,172 posts)
10. Generally speaking, those who have power fight to keep it. These Republicans
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 12:47 PM
3 hrs ago

(Congress and the Courts) have so willingly given theirs up to one con artist.

bluestarone

(22,334 posts)
13. Not sure how senate rules are, so i'm asking that
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 12:52 PM
3 hrs ago

When we take the senate back, can this be changed after Jan when we take control?

WestMichRad

(3,323 posts)
14. With Dem majorities in both Congressional chambers, yes.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:05 PM
3 hrs ago

They could pass a bill to overturn what the Repukes pass this year. Then TSF would certainly veto it, and without a very unlikely 2/3 majorities in both chambers, the new bill dies.

Our best hope may be the Senate parliamentarian ruling that they can only pass a one year budget for ICE and CBP under the rules for a reconciliation bill.

Ilsa

(64,443 posts)
17. Thune wants to shovel $billions to Felon4547's personal army to
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:11 PM
3 hrs ago

enforce his limitless rule over us? I can appreciate the dastardly way they figured out a way to do this, but Fuuuuuuccckkk.

tritsofme

(19,923 posts)
22. It would have been smarter to resolve DHS funding through appropriations instead of giving up all leverage for the next
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:44 PM
2 hrs ago

three years.

But some folks were so obsessed with Democrats not “caving” that we surrendered any leverage our new House majority would have had over ICE/CBP

KPN

(17,451 posts)
25. Things have to come to a head sooner or later. This makes it sooner. Compromising to retain a shred of power becomes
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 02:24 PM
2 hrs ago

meaningless over the long haul in the face of the Republican cabal. If the last 40+ years haven't demonstrated that sufficiently, nothing will I suppose. I understand where you are coming from, but its been one step forward, two steps back on far too many fronts for far too long in my view. We might as well meet them head on. We have the numbers as far as people goes, and the people will ultimately prevail when push becomes shove.

It might not be pretty, but it's been going there for longer than we tend, out of decency and a commitment to unity, to admit.

Traildogbob

(13,086 posts)
26. Have any of you
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 02:57 PM
1 hr ago

Seen the DocuMovie on HBO Titled, 2073? It is horrifying, and where we are headed if we do not beat down this regime.
I saw the first Exorcist at 15 and left with a sickening fear.
This movie/Doc is worse. And much more probable than Satan finding a home inside of us with 360 spinning heads.
No exorcism will save us. This predicted outcome has Satan inside all the billionaires that own us, gleefully projectile vomiting on us.
And the current purchasers of the country are all exposed with their grand scheme. Musk, Thiel, trumo Zuckerberg and Bazos, the whole band together.
I highly recommend preparing yourself but watch it.
As a warning and reason to wipe them out this November. If it will be allowed.

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