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MAGA went into meltdown after voters in Virginia turned against Donald Trump in a critical referendum that could sway the result of the midterm elections.
Virginians approved a Democratic plan to allow them to redraw the state congressional map for the remainder of the decade. Subject to a state Supreme Court hearing later this week, the plan could give the party as many as four extra seats in the House come November.
The result means that Trumps calls for redistricting in Republican-led stateswhich MAGA raced to back at the timeare now backfiring on the president as Democratic states rush to follow suit.
After 97 percent of the votes were counted, 51.5 percent voted yes to redistricting, while 48.5 percent voted no.
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Speaker Mike Johnson called the results egregious, claiming 46-percent of Virginia voters backed Trump. That is why Democrats relied on rigging the ballot question in order to win. We fought this effort with money, manpower, and in the courts - and those fights will continue.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-melts-down-after-disgusting-blow-to-trump/
And the crap they pulled in Texas wasn't illegal? Come on, Mikey!
question everything
(52,244 posts)Chasstev365
(7,961 posts)It's NOT FAIR; They're using the rules we created to cheat against us!
PatSeg
(53,267 posts)And it wasn't the Texas voters who made the decision to redraw the districts, it was republican politicians.
GreenWave
(12,697 posts)PatSeg
(53,267 posts)believe in elections in the first place.
popsdenver
(2,412 posts)The Repubs can sure hand it out, but they can't take it.......
I can't wait for all the shit they are gonna dream up this year before the mid term election....Including their classic....Their
"October Surprise" they usually reserve for Presidential Elections.......
Side Note: interesting to see our Denver area Dem U.S. Rep, suddenly, out of nowhere already running spots for her re-election.
Obviously, having just coasted along merrily, all these years, with so many of her colleagues, I think she is starting to get worried about being primaried........We also have two such Dem U.S. Senators "awakening" to the fact that we all are getting really upset at the "DO NOTHING"..Dem Politicians.........I cannot say that either of these individuals have represented us in America they way they should have been........along with about 200+ other dem U.S. Senators and members of the house......
SheltieLover
(81,288 posts)karynnj
(61,033 posts)Even if Trump got 46 percent of the vote in 2024, that is LESS than 50 percent, do why would Democrats have to rig the election to win?
In the first place, there is ample proof in polling and special elections that Trump is very likely less popular than he was in 2024 when he was defeated by 8 percent.
Second, he gives no explanation of how it was rigged. In fact, as an out of stater following it mostly through posts here, it was the Republicans using old comments by the governor and Obama to imply they supported a NO vote, when they favored yes.
By the way, it was only in yesterday's coverage that I heard former AG Holder explain that this map was to counter the Republican gerrymandering AND he and top Democrats favored new maps after the next census be done by non partisan teams. For me, this threaded the needle between being against gerrymandering, but realizing that Republican led states doing it means we have to respond in kind.
lame54
(39,923 posts)Don't mess with Texas
cab67
(3,817 posts)Tom DeLay pushed for mid-decade redistricting in Texas in 2003. And he got it. What Abbott did is not new.
lame54
(39,923 posts)Abbott resisted at first but Trump pushed it
cab67
(3,817 posts)Torchlight
(6,936 posts)and have run it in for touchdowns since.
"Stop using our own tactics against us! It's Unfair, Illegal, and anything else that sounds good typed in Caps!!!"
Skittles
(172,220 posts)you won't see repukes putting it up for a vote
UpInArms
(55,119 posts)vs 51.5 who did not
that is called "losing"
so STFU
Prairie Gates
(8,328 posts)Having just one or two of 12 Congressional districts drawn to favor Democrats is unfair (less than 10%). Which is true, as supporters of the measure admitted. However, the GOP has been doing this for a long time, including egregiously in Wisconsin, but also, yes, the Texas redistricting also draw maps in wild disproportion to overall votes. So Johnson wants to be able to do this in Texas, but not in Virginia. He can eat shit.
UpInArms
(55,119 posts)I am in Missouri where they are forcing a redistricted map on us regardless of the State's Constitution
themaguffin
(5,281 posts)GoodRaisin
(10,973 posts)peggysue2
(12,560 posts)Trump said he was Entitled to at least five extra seats in Texas. Republicans rallied around the suggestion and were all on board.
The Democratic Party fighting back? Not so much.
Virginian Louise Lucas said it best:
You all started it and we fucking finished it.
Hahahaha. Love it!
charliea
(343 posts)I've seen several articles in the last few months about the Texas power grab, an imposed map as compared to voter choice in VA, and most of them mention that it was based on a belief that they would have the same amount of Latino support as they had Nov. 2024. This is no longer true according to current polling. Their supposition that nothing has changed may cause them to lose 5 more seats. (so sad)
#noKings
AverageOldGuy
(4,014 posts)GFY.
edbermac
(16,474 posts)Six months from now youll be out on your ass.
calimary
(90,382 posts)Hell be, at best, FORMER House Speaker, and at worst, just another job seeker.
fujiyamasan
(1,904 posts)These idiots are out there whining about liberal hypocrisy. I dont think they have any idea what the word even means.
Had Texas not approached mid decade redistricting, neither California or Virginia would have followed through on this. Hell, both state referendums arent enacting these permanently.
Many democratic states have for years tried to make the process fairer, by giving power to independent commissions. Not a single republican state has done the same.
Im not saying democratic states dont gerrymander, but not to the extent republicans have weaponized the process.
Justice matters.
(9,919 posts)They prefer Fascism because they can't govern for the people, just for themselves and their war-criminal accomplices.
ShazzieB
(22,732 posts)"Im not saying democratic states dont gerrymander, but not to the extent republicans have weaponized the process."
If Illinois is any example, blue states do gerrymander. Democrats don't go out of their way to weaponize the process, but they do use it to their advantage. Our current congressional district maps are downright embarrassing; my district looks like a 50 mile long snake with an oversized head at each end!
I have mixed feelings about it. It's hard to object to something that gives Dems an advantage, but I'm not going to brag about it, either. The best thing I can say is, Republicans aren't giving us much of a choice. They're going to play dirty no matter what, and we can't just roll over and play dead. This is one area where going high when they go low is NOT a viable option.
cab67
(3,817 posts)I think there should be a constitutional amendment prohibiting political gerrymandering.
But given the games R's play, we have to work within that system. It would be stupid to let them gerrymander a purple state into the deep red category and not react in kind.
Karasu
(2,055 posts)areas.
You are also right to point out that none of these referendums are even permanent. In the not-too-distant future, theyre likely going to need to be extendedsince the GOP is continuing down this road with or without Trumpbut thats a whole other can of worms.
Not to mention the fact that Republican-controlled states didnt even LET people vote on this shit. They just forced it through. Almost like theyre fucking fascist or something.
Youd think people would start to get a damn clue.
prodigitalson
(3,195 posts)otherwise it is unilateral disarmament
aggiesal
(10,856 posts)O
K
If
You're
a
Republican
Mblaze
(1,088 posts)Well that's not quite enough is it Mikey?
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,589 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,309 posts)MagickMuffin
(18,348 posts)Greg Abbott RIGGED our elections. Plain and simple.
Why Greg Abbott even gave away our voter rolls to the crooked and corrupt regime, we Texan citizens didnt have a say in that as well.
OMGWTF
(5,175 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(12,172 posts)GreenWave
(12,697 posts)They never mentioned the orange blasphemer wanted a no vote. That would make the margin even bigger.
Some shit they sprayed ad nauseum on the channels:
Coming for your guns.
Instant healthcare for illegals.
Lax border
No mention of Maga fascism in Texas.
3825-87867
(1,984 posts)Why haven't we heard ANYTHING from or about MUSK?
In my mind, Musk was THE one who fixed 2024.
If the Democrats take that lightly, you may kiss off '26!
Starlink is still under HIS control and probably a number of computers and companies.
Don't think Musk really hates trump who could help even him.
And the Republicans have MONEY!
Just a sobering thought!
FakeNoose
(41,989 posts)... that he's completely full of BS.
When the voters show up in sufficient numbers, Democratic issues and Democratic candidates always win.
The hard part is getting people to care enough to show up and vote, when the chips are down.
This is awesome news for Virginia voters! Thank you Virginia Democrats for making the difference!
usonian
(25,962 posts)
?w=670&ssl=1Bengus81
(10,254 posts)rigging was announced and do nothing. Instead Newsom took the lead and other blue States followed much to the HORROR of Moses Mike.
Tough shit asshat,try and explain it all to your Fuhrer.
cab67
(3,817 posts)In fact, I think there should be an amendment to the Constitution banning it.
But if the R's are going to play that game, we have to act accordingly.
COL Mustard
(8,312 posts)While the other is just running amok.
DoBW
(3,276 posts)to eat it
sop
(18,923 posts)Gerrymandering, vote suppression schemes, unlimited dark money, corporate media bias...they're relentless. Convincing people to vote against their own interests isn't easy.
IcyPeas
(25,616 posts)But yeah... When democrats win it's rigged. 🙄
OAITW r.2.0
(32,376 posts)Instead of self-dealing partisan gerrymandering by fiat.
DET
(2,544 posts)Republicans pulled out all the stops to deceive Virginia voters in their promotional materials about the referendum. We got several mailers a day declaring that Obama and Spanberger want you to vote NO. It was relentless, so much so that I was really concerned that the lies would work. Fortunately, voters saw through the bullsh*t and voted YES.
I think most Virginia voters were perfectly happy with their current district assignments. But the blatant cheating in red states could not go unaddressed. Yes, the new districts are completely disproportionate, but thats what happens when the other side decides to fight back hard.
BlueWavePsych
(3,404 posts)wolfie001
(7,829 posts)🙏
COL Mustard
(8,312 posts)If they wanted to win, all they had to do was nominate a better candidate than Lose-some Penney (Winsome Sears) and turn out in greater numbers yesterday. Damn, I'm glad to live in VA!