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(4,752 posts)Vinca
(54,144 posts)walkingman
(10,982 posts)OMGWTF
(5,173 posts)travelingthrulife
(5,355 posts)and bible yet they consider themselves experts on everything.
PJMcK
(25,060 posts)Their adherents are in for the shock of their lives when they die.
mwmisses4289
(4,424 posts)dlilafae
(461 posts)I was just listening to the MeidasTouch podcast and they were referencing the same...
Joinfortmill
(21,360 posts)Figarosmom
(12,482 posts)To understand the irony.
Aviation Pro
(15,647 posts)Lifts his head up from servicing the child raping bag 'o fuck's taint long enough to say something stupid.
That's Micro Penis Mike Johnson.
cachukis
(4,012 posts)only for procreation.
Wednesdays
(22,822 posts)I don't get the connection.
cachukis
(4,012 posts)is a tricky business, for all of them.
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GenThePerservering
(3,500 posts)it's about Johnson's ignorance of the augustinian concept of 'just war.'
cachukis
(4,012 posts)Ray Bruns
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Mblaze
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But they are a little long in the tooth and you can't teach an old scrotum new tricks.
BComplex
(9,938 posts)in November!!!????
Please
Mblaze
(1,086 posts)Would understand the Just War Doctrine. I can hear him now saying, "What did I just tell you"?
Martin Luther King Jr. was in a just war and followed the directives of Jesus by being non-violent. It worked. Do you think that it would have worked if he had been violent?
PatrickforB
(15,473 posts)In the Just War theory, Christians are justified in going to war if the enemy has conducted an unprovoked attack. So, using that definition, we can look back on history and find very few 'just' wars.
Most of the time, when we speak of wars fought under the auspices of religion, it has been a bunch of people who are so very, very certain their religious dogma is correct and everyone else's is wrong that they are willing to kill those who disagree. Often in millions. Examples of that include the wars in Europe over the doctrine of transubstantiation - these happy little conflicts killed 12 million people over forty years.
We also have the crusades, where we had to get a bunch of people together and retake the Holy Land. We can also add the genocide of the Conquistadores against the Aztecs, Maya, Inca and other central and south American civilizations, and the north American genocide against the indiginous tribes on that continent. Millions died.
In fact, try as I might, there are only a few wars we could consider 'just.' In the twentieth century, the Second World War was just because the Axis countries were invading other countries right and left, and Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Of course, there is the nagging little fact that our oil embargo against the Japanese Empire had a causal relationship with the attack at Pearl Harbor. Still, all things considered, we were justified in facing off against the Axis and it took 60 million lives to get rid of Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo and the rest of the fascists.
And Korea - the forgotten war counts. North Korea invaded South Korea and that was unprovoked. China and the USSR treated it as a proxy war, backing N. Korea, and we let an international coalition to preserve the independence of S. Korea. But we did not fight to win because of the nuclear threat.
'Nam was fought by our kids at the behest of the Military Industrial Complex, which arguably took over this country with the assassination of JFK and the MIC crazies convincing LBJ to send 500,000 of our people over there. They wanted to increase PROFITS from arms production and sales. Wall Street roared! In the meantime, America lost 58,000 people and 3.2 million Vietnamese were killed. We had an anti-war movement and riots that nearly tore the republic apart. But Wall Street and the MIC did GREAT! They sold our government $158 billion in death toys, which would amount to nearly a trillion USD now.
The forever wars were fought as a result of a terrorist act that created a shadow war against an invisible enemy. This war could have been won...economically, but never militarily. Unjust.
And this war in Iran? Unjust.
I do understand the concept of a Just War even though my comparison might not reflect the original intention (although it has all of the requisite criteria except for being declared by a competent authority). After all, slavery was still prevalent when Augustine et. al. and civil rights were in question back then as well.
I believe the non-violent revolt against the Raj by Gandhi is another great example of a "war" that Jesus would approve.
PatrickforB
(15,473 posts)blubunyip
(292 posts)need to be used. Let's see, who would Jesus bomb?
I think Jesus believed we could and should get beyond mass killings.
One day.
LeftinOH
(5,659 posts)It's odd that so many conservative Catholics don't understand the level of contempt that the religious right holds for them.
Wiz Imp
(10,168 posts)The Wizard
(13,793 posts)Mary worshipers .
Martin68
(27,911 posts)FakeNoose
(41,952 posts)
Wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo
He's not only a Saint in the Roman Catholic church, but also recognized in the Lutheran, Anglican and Eastern Orthodox Christian churches as a saintly and highly-educated leader of the early Christians.
Wikipedia tells the interesting story of his life. The reason this is pertinent is that Pope Leo XIV (Robert Prevost) decided at a young age to study for the priesthood and eventually join the order of Augustinians.
haele
(15,465 posts)He was born in Algeria. While it's a Mediterranean country, it's a Southern Mediterranean Country...
The guy in the pic looks like he came from Cologne or maybe Brussels...
3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)BComplex
(9,938 posts)Where do the republicans even find these total sick-in-the-head-and-don't-know-it creeps?
OhioBack2Blue
(147 posts)...no I'm not kidding...they are playing the long game against us. We are way behind.
displacedvermoter
(4,752 posts)Even Jim "Jacket Free" Jordan isn't as skeavy as Johnson
calimary
(90,316 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,230 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,997 posts)You need more good bombs becuause of all the bad bombs. I wish this was sarcasm.
BidenRocks
(3,376 posts)I am humbled by your restraint. It takes a truly special person to deal with the world today.
If it were up to me, I would be excommunicating a lot of people for their comments detrimental to the safety of the citizens of this planet. You have seen the fat, cigar chomping jerk who told you to stay in your lane?
I would be a smiting and giving the Knights Templar a job. On background, they were as corrupt as chump and were disbanded. Not Opus Dei either. More Hollywood.
Bottom line is, the time to turn the other cheek has passed. These cretins have no respect for anything beside money and power.
Can't you issue a Catholic Fatwah or something to rally the true believers?
That would be a "Just War".
ColoringFool
(815 posts)Invasion and War Crime."
pansypoo53219
(23,099 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(14,470 posts)I LOVE IT! Sure wouldn't want him watching me or my kids at Christmas, though! Dirty minded little shit.
Jilly_in_VA
(14,470 posts)I dare Little Mikey to debate Pope Leo---or any good Lutheran pastor, for that matter. (Preferably Elca--I think Nadia Bolz-Weber would tear him to shreds--but I think a good Missouri Synod pastor could eat him alive too.) I doubt the little putz is much of a debater on theological matters.
Metaphorical
(2,654 posts)He architected many of the more egregious and problematic beliefs of the time into the emerging Christian Church; however, in this particular case (and the notion of what constitutes a Just War) he's well reasoned. The Jesuits and Augustinian orders are also fairly well aligned in their notion that logical soundness, even more than faith, is important in establishing the authority of the church. This contrasts with the Dominicans who tend to be more focused on orthodoxy of belief.
Mike Johnson, on the other hand, is simply Trump's lapdog at this point, and I suspect would be hard pressed to debate his way out of a wet paper bag.
Jilly_in_VA
(14,470 posts)although he does have his moments. I'm even less a fan of his mother Monica, who I consider the ultimate stage mother. but I won't go there. I'll just say that how she ever got to be a saint is way beyond me. Aug, well, okay, though he's not my favorite. I'm more of either a Jesuit or Maybe even an Ignatian vis a vis my spirituality...except I'm Orthodox.
GiqueCee
(4,462 posts)... and chickenshit are character traits that do not play well together. Combine those with the Dunning-Kruger Effect on steroids and you get... well, Mike Johnson.
"Moses" Mike is in so far over his head that he doesn't even know which way is up. But if he presumes to lecture Pope Bob on theology, he'll find out where down is when his face hits the mat with a resounding splat.
BidenRocks
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Psalm 137.9, which reads, "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the rock,"
No abortion, just infanticide!
Let's not get into Leviticus. Pres. Bartlett did that one so well!
3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)And the one in the first season when he tells Mary Marsh and the other two to, Get your fat asses out of my White House.
BidenRocks
(3,376 posts)I spent a lot of time on the empty set, in the White House.
It was the most impressive TV set since it was 'real'.
All the talent was especially friendly. John Spencer would see you outside a stage and say hello.
I don't watch any tv dramas now.
3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)I recently binge re-watched all 7 seasons. Not too long after that, Timothy Busfield was arrested. If he ends up being found guilty, I will have to fast forward thru all his scenes.
I confess to not being a huge fan of the First Lady character. Too shrill for me.
Dave Bowman
(7,304 posts)ShazzieB
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BurnDoubt
(1,815 posts)returnee
(947 posts)when you are uneducated, talk out of your ass, and use your so-called religion to self-aggrandize.
