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I"ll just drop this here without comment (Original Post) AverageOldGuy Friday OP
But does he speak in tongues and hate gay men and women? displacedvermoter Friday #1
And snakes. He's got to love snakes. Vinca Friday #14
Speaker Johnson is an example of the ignorance and hypocrisy that permeates the white evangelical church.. walkingman Friday #2
You forgot arrogance -- they are steeped in it. OMGWTF Friday #22
Yes, their arrogance is what gets me. They know nothing about their own religion travelingthrulife Saturday #54
The evangelical church PJMcK Friday #31
Whatever mj is, christian ain't one of them! mwmisses4289 Friday #3
Aog, Cool meme/factoid dlilafae Friday #4
Johnson is a Lemming. Joinfortmill Friday #5
I doubt johnson has the brain cells Figarosmom Friday #6
Micro Penis Mike Johnson Aviation Pro Friday #7
Do remember, Augustine also opined that sex was cachukis Friday #8
Somehow, that makes Mike Johnson right? Wednesdays Friday #12
Oh, not at all. Just that using prominent theologians cachukis Friday #17
This message was self-deleted by its author cachukis Friday #18
This isn't about procreation GenThePerservering Friday #19
Did Jesus speak of a just war? cachukis Friday #30
Mike Johnson ladies and gentlemen. Ray Bruns Friday #9
Trump is training them to do that Mblaze Friday #11
Someone please tell me that we're running a great democrat against him for this seat BComplex Friday #37
I'm not sure that Jesus Christ Mblaze Friday #10
Ah, the Civil Rights movement was in fact just, but that is not what 'just war' is referring to. PatrickforB Friday #39
Thanks Mblaze Friday #42
Yes, Mahatma Gandhi - those were righteous movements. And I do agree with you. n/t PatrickforB Friday #44
"death toys" blubunyip Saturday #49
Mike is an evangelical American Xtian. They have no use for Catholics. LeftinOH Friday #13
Actually, they have no use for Jesus. Wiz Imp Friday #38
I've heard Christian nationalists call Catholics The Wizard Friday #45
MAGAts are morons. Martin68 Friday #15
Saint Augustine, AKA Augustine of Hippo FakeNoose Friday #16
Also, I doubt Augustine was as pale as he is in the Wiki picture haele Friday #29
Mike Johnson makes my skin crawl. 3catwoman3 Friday #20
Oh mine, too! What a slimy weasel! BComplex Friday #36
They train them just like Mossad, CIA or FSB... OhioBack2Blue Friday #46
As I said last week displacedvermoter Friday #43
You're not alone. Not by a long shot! calimary Saturday #48
They're ignorant liars. We see it every day. CaptainTruth Friday #21
Johnson is now in charge of "blessing the bombs". twodogsbarking Friday #23
Dear Pope Leo, BidenRocks Friday #24
Mike Johnson Doesn't Understand Something Called "Illegal.... ColoringFool Friday #25
speaker elf on a shelf is a jeebus follower. taint the same. pansypoo53219 Friday #26
elf on the shelf? Jilly_in_VA Friday #28
Martin Luther was an Augustinian too Jilly_in_VA Friday #27
I'm not a big fan of Augustine Metaphorical Friday #32
I'm not a big fan of Augustine either Jilly_in_VA Friday #35
Power mad... GiqueCee Friday #33
Explain this one Mikey! BidenRocks Friday #34
One of the best scenes in the whole 7 seasons. 3catwoman3 Saturday #50
I was working at Warner Bros. at the time. BidenRocks Saturday #52
How exciting that must have been. What did you do there? 3catwoman3 Saturday #53
That poster boy for The Dunning-Kruger effect knows better, of course. Dave Bowman Friday #40
Bazinga! ShazzieB Friday #41
YEP!!!! BurnDoubt Saturday #47
That's what happens... returnee Saturday #51

walkingman

(10,982 posts)
2. Speaker Johnson is an example of the ignorance and hypocrisy that permeates the white evangelical church..
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:43 AM
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travelingthrulife

(5,355 posts)
54. Yes, their arrogance is what gets me. They know nothing about their own religion
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 02:19 PM
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and bible yet they consider themselves experts on everything.

PJMcK

(25,060 posts)
31. The evangelical church
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:02 PM
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Their adherents are in for the shock of their lives when they die.

dlilafae

(461 posts)
4. Aog, Cool meme/factoid
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:03 PM
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I was just listening to the MeidasTouch podcast and they were referencing the same...

Aviation Pro

(15,647 posts)
7. Micro Penis Mike Johnson
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:10 PM
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Lifts his head up from servicing the child raping bag 'o fuck's taint long enough to say something stupid.

That's Micro Penis Mike Johnson.

cachukis

(4,012 posts)
17. Oh, not at all. Just that using prominent theologians
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:36 PM
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is a tricky business, for all of them.

Response to Wednesdays (Reply #12)

GenThePerservering

(3,500 posts)
19. This isn't about procreation
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:48 PM
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it's about Johnson's ignorance of the augustinian concept of 'just war.'

Mblaze

(1,086 posts)
11. Trump is training them to do that
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:20 PM
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Last edited Sat Apr 18, 2026, 12:24 AM - Edit history (1)

But they are a little long in the tooth and you can't teach an old scrotum new tricks.

BComplex

(9,938 posts)
37. Someone please tell me that we're running a great democrat against him for this seat
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:19 PM
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in November!!!????
Please

Mblaze

(1,086 posts)
10. I'm not sure that Jesus Christ
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:18 PM
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Would understand the Just War Doctrine. I can hear him now saying, "What did I just tell you"?

Martin Luther King Jr. was in a just war and followed the directives of Jesus by being non-violent. It worked. Do you think that it would have worked if he had been violent?

PatrickforB

(15,473 posts)
39. Ah, the Civil Rights movement was in fact just, but that is not what 'just war' is referring to.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:38 PM
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In the Just War theory, Christians are justified in going to war if the enemy has conducted an unprovoked attack. So, using that definition, we can look back on history and find very few 'just' wars.

Most of the time, when we speak of wars fought under the auspices of religion, it has been a bunch of people who are so very, very certain their religious dogma is correct and everyone else's is wrong that they are willing to kill those who disagree. Often in millions. Examples of that include the wars in Europe over the doctrine of transubstantiation - these happy little conflicts killed 12 million people over forty years.

We also have the crusades, where we had to get a bunch of people together and retake the Holy Land. We can also add the genocide of the Conquistadores against the Aztecs, Maya, Inca and other central and south American civilizations, and the north American genocide against the indiginous tribes on that continent. Millions died.

In fact, try as I might, there are only a few wars we could consider 'just.' In the twentieth century, the Second World War was just because the Axis countries were invading other countries right and left, and Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Of course, there is the nagging little fact that our oil embargo against the Japanese Empire had a causal relationship with the attack at Pearl Harbor. Still, all things considered, we were justified in facing off against the Axis and it took 60 million lives to get rid of Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo and the rest of the fascists.

And Korea - the forgotten war counts. North Korea invaded South Korea and that was unprovoked. China and the USSR treated it as a proxy war, backing N. Korea, and we let an international coalition to preserve the independence of S. Korea. But we did not fight to win because of the nuclear threat.

'Nam was fought by our kids at the behest of the Military Industrial Complex, which arguably took over this country with the assassination of JFK and the MIC crazies convincing LBJ to send 500,000 of our people over there. They wanted to increase PROFITS from arms production and sales. Wall Street roared! In the meantime, America lost 58,000 people and 3.2 million Vietnamese were killed. We had an anti-war movement and riots that nearly tore the republic apart. But Wall Street and the MIC did GREAT! They sold our government $158 billion in death toys, which would amount to nearly a trillion USD now.

The forever wars were fought as a result of a terrorist act that created a shadow war against an invisible enemy. This war could have been won...economically, but never militarily. Unjust.

And this war in Iran? Unjust.

Mblaze

(1,086 posts)
42. Thanks
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:31 PM
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I do understand the concept of a Just War even though my comparison might not reflect the original intention (although it has all of the requisite criteria except for being declared by a competent authority). After all, slavery was still prevalent when Augustine et. al. and civil rights were in question back then as well.

I believe the non-violent revolt against the Raj by Gandhi is another great example of a "war" that Jesus would approve.

blubunyip

(292 posts)
49. "death toys"
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 08:24 AM
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need to be used. Let's see, who would Jesus bomb?

I think Jesus believed we could and should get beyond mass killings.

One day.

LeftinOH

(5,659 posts)
13. Mike is an evangelical American Xtian. They have no use for Catholics.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:24 PM
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It's odd that so many conservative Catholics don't understand the level of contempt that the religious right holds for them.

FakeNoose

(41,952 posts)
16. Saint Augustine, AKA Augustine of Hippo
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:31 PM
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Wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo

He's not only a Saint in the Roman Catholic church, but also recognized in the Lutheran, Anglican and Eastern Orthodox Christian churches as a saintly and highly-educated leader of the early Christians.

Wikipedia tells the interesting story of his life. The reason this is pertinent is that Pope Leo XIV (Robert Prevost) decided at a young age to study for the priesthood and eventually join the order of Augustinians.

haele

(15,465 posts)
29. Also, I doubt Augustine was as pale as he is in the Wiki picture
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:58 PM
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He was born in Algeria. While it's a Mediterranean country, it's a Southern Mediterranean Country...
The guy in the pic looks like he came from Cologne or maybe Brussels...

BComplex

(9,938 posts)
36. Oh mine, too! What a slimy weasel!
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:18 PM
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Where do the republicans even find these total sick-in-the-head-and-don't-know-it creeps?

OhioBack2Blue

(147 posts)
46. They train them just like Mossad, CIA or FSB...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:49 PM
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...no I'm not kidding...they are playing the long game against us. We are way behind.

twodogsbarking

(18,997 posts)
23. Johnson is now in charge of "blessing the bombs".
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:20 PM
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You need more good bombs becuause of all the bad bombs. I wish this was sarcasm.

BidenRocks

(3,376 posts)
24. Dear Pope Leo,
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:24 PM
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I am humbled by your restraint. It takes a truly special person to deal with the world today.

If it were up to me, I would be excommunicating a lot of people for their comments detrimental to the safety of the citizens of this planet. You have seen the fat, cigar chomping jerk who told you to stay in your lane?

I would be a smiting and giving the Knights Templar a job. On background, they were as corrupt as chump and were disbanded. Not Opus Dei either. More Hollywood.

Bottom line is, the time to turn the other cheek has passed. These cretins have no respect for anything beside money and power.

Can't you issue a Catholic Fatwah or something to rally the true believers?

That would be a "Just War".

Jilly_in_VA

(14,470 posts)
28. elf on the shelf?
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:53 PM
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I LOVE IT! Sure wouldn't want him watching me or my kids at Christmas, though! Dirty minded little shit.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,470 posts)
27. Martin Luther was an Augustinian too
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:52 PM
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I dare Little Mikey to debate Pope Leo---or any good Lutheran pastor, for that matter. (Preferably Elca--I think Nadia Bolz-Weber would tear him to shreds--but I think a good Missouri Synod pastor could eat him alive too.) I doubt the little putz is much of a debater on theological matters.

Metaphorical

(2,654 posts)
32. I'm not a big fan of Augustine
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:06 PM
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He architected many of the more egregious and problematic beliefs of the time into the emerging Christian Church; however, in this particular case (and the notion of what constitutes a Just War) he's well reasoned. The Jesuits and Augustinian orders are also fairly well aligned in their notion that logical soundness, even more than faith, is important in establishing the authority of the church. This contrasts with the Dominicans who tend to be more focused on orthodoxy of belief.

Mike Johnson, on the other hand, is simply Trump's lapdog at this point, and I suspect would be hard pressed to debate his way out of a wet paper bag.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,470 posts)
35. I'm not a big fan of Augustine either
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:16 PM
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although he does have his moments. I'm even less a fan of his mother Monica, who I consider the ultimate stage mother. but I won't go there. I'll just say that how she ever got to be a saint is way beyond me. Aug, well, okay, though he's not my favorite. I'm more of either a Jesuit or Maybe even an Ignatian vis a vis my spirituality...except I'm Orthodox.

GiqueCee

(4,462 posts)
33. Power mad...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:06 PM
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... and chickenshit are character traits that do not play well together. Combine those with the Dunning-Kruger Effect on steroids and you get... well, Mike Johnson.
"Moses" Mike is in so far over his head that he doesn't even know which way is up. But if he presumes to lecture Pope Bob on theology, he'll find out where down is when his face hits the mat with a resounding splat.

BidenRocks

(3,376 posts)
34. Explain this one Mikey!
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:16 PM
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Last edited Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Psalm 137.9, which reads, "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the rock,"

No abortion, just infanticide!

Let's not get into Leviticus. Pres. Bartlett did that one so well!

3catwoman3

(29,580 posts)
50. One of the best scenes in the whole 7 seasons.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 08:43 AM
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And the one in the first season when he tells Mary Marsh and the other two to, “Get your fat asses out of my White House.”

BidenRocks

(3,376 posts)
52. I was working at Warner Bros. at the time.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:20 PM
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I spent a lot of time on the empty set, in the White House.
It was the most impressive TV set since it was 'real'.
All the talent was especially friendly. John Spencer would see you outside a stage and say hello.
I don't watch any tv dramas now.

3catwoman3

(29,580 posts)
53. How exciting that must have been. What did you do there?
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 02:16 PM
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I recently binge re-watched all 7 seasons. Not too long after that, Timothy Busfield was arrested. If he ends up being found guilty, I will have to fast forward thru all his scenes.

I confess to not being a huge fan of the First Lady character. Too shrill for me.

returnee

(947 posts)
51. That's what happens...
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 09:10 AM
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…when you are uneducated, talk out of your ass, and use your so-called religion to self-aggrandize.

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