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Pope Leo put a Muslim prayer room in the Vatican. People are concerned. (Original Post) Swede Friday OP
"without interrupting ... library patrons" .. That kind of courtesy is alien thinking to those "concerned" about this.nt eppur_se_muova Friday #1
The complainers probably never go to libraries. yardwork Friday #8
In some ways, it might be best that they don't. eppur_se_muova Friday #10
Yeah! lastlib Friday #13
Isn't it difficult to hyperventilate when your knuckles are dragging on the ground? AZ8theist Friday #45
Half of them probably see "Muslim scholars in the Vatican Library" and think it's a Dan-Brown-style plot muriel_volestrangler Friday #47
Imagine. . thoughtfulness and consideration. Such "concerning" niyad Friday #2
I never know what is worse about these "concerned" assholes, displacedvermoter Friday #3
That's It ! dave99 Friday #4
Why not both?!?! evolves Friday #16
The morons know Allah and God are the same dude, right? stumpysbear Friday #5
I highly doubt that they do. Emile Friday #7
And I'm sure they think that 4 of the disciples were really named... 3catwoman3 Friday #26
A Rose by any other name is still a Rose. patphil Friday #18
Universal Consciousness. maddiemom Friday #35
I call it "Physics" lastlib Friday #40
"Allah" Mossfern Friday #21
The issues are about prophets and messiahs JoseBalow Friday #24
They don't believe swong19104 Friday #39
Not only that, but Muslim scholars would have wnylib Friday #43
historians as well. cab67 Friday #44
"But we ain't doin' nun a dat book lernin' bullcrap!!!"* AZ8theist Friday #46
Perhaps you've heard.... cab67 Saturday #58
LOL!! No, hadn't heard that one! AZ8theist Saturday #59
Very true. wnylib Friday #48
Trump has been texting, praise be to Allah. Blue Full Moon Friday #6
I really like this guy. Scrivener7 Friday #9
I believe it is called eccumentality. That is a sharing of unity and purpose among various flashman13 Friday #11
It's that "mentality" part that throws them...... lastlib Friday #14
No one was born hating anyone. It's a learned thing very often connected to religious indoctrination. flashman13 Friday #15
"You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" niyad Friday #30
Hey, lettuce leaves are useful, delicious, and often beautiful. niyad Friday #29
Quite true, but..... lastlib Friday #42
Sadly, that is not a dificult feat. niyad Friday #49
"My god can beat up your god" evolves Friday #17
Gotta love Pope Leo! Joinfortmill Friday #12
Vatican City is a separate country, not a religious institution FakeNoose Friday #19
"How many divisions does the Pope have?" lastlib Friday #55
Trump would have banned Islamic scholars from the Vatican Martin Eden Friday #20
If his base were majority muslims, he'd pretend to be that JoseBalow Friday #27
Maybe FAFO and face-eating leopards will turn the tide Martin Eden Friday #37
Wow, respecting another person's religion. Wednesdays Friday #22
I wait to see what The Orange Messiah has to say about this. . twodogsbarking Friday #23
It is interesting to see... Snackshack Friday #25
Good for Pope Leo, he understands how it's supposed to work... wcmagumba Friday #28
The morans clutching their pearls are never going to use the Vatican Library ms liberty Friday #31
Quite simply for those concerned.. Bluejeans Friday #32
Self-proclaimed "Christians" are often profoundly ignorant about Christianity PJMcK Friday #33
I can't hear or see the word "concerned" without thinking of Susan Collins ;-) flor-de-jasmim Friday #34
Easy way to weed out the extreme fundamentalists who are ruining everything with their hypocritical insanity Blue Owl Friday #36
I was at the Vatican in 2018 and saw many Muslim men on the grounds who frequented that library kimbutgar Friday #38
Yet another flaw for the Pope, according to Trump Doctrine. Passages Friday #41
"But if they're prayin in a special room, how can we scream.... 70sEraVet Friday #50
Basic (and no-cost) politeness to guests is an alien concept to RWers/MAGAts RockRaven Friday #51
If you've never seen it IbogaProject Friday #52
Decency, humanity, good will, civility... debsy Friday #53
Perfectly normal... WarGamer Friday #54
"NEVER IN THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL TRUMP LIBRARY! NO ColoringFool Friday #56
i love your comment "I know who the "concerned people" voted for." - it's perfect! nt orleans Saturday #57

eppur_se_muova

(42,126 posts)
1. "without interrupting ... library patrons" .. That kind of courtesy is alien thinking to those "concerned" about this.nt
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:46 AM
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yardwork

(69,466 posts)
8. The complainers probably never go to libraries.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:04 AM
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They haven't ever been in a public library. They think it's a den of satanic communists forcing them to watch drag queens read gay porn to children.

They hyperventilate when they drive past their town's library.

eppur_se_muova

(42,126 posts)
10. In some ways, it might be best that they don't.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:12 AM
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Wouldn't want them to interfere in our drag queen gay porn children's hour ! Satanic communists have some rights, too, you know !

AZ8theist

(7,465 posts)
45. Isn't it difficult to hyperventilate when your knuckles are dragging on the ground?
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:33 PM
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Just wondering....

muriel_volestrangler

(106,360 posts)
47. Half of them probably see "Muslim scholars in the Vatican Library" and think it's a Dan-Brown-style plot
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:49 PM
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to create One World Religion worshipping Greta Thunberg.

displacedvermoter

(4,752 posts)
3. I never know what is worse about these "concerned" assholes,
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:26 AM
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that they are ignorant about everything, or that even when they learn about something, they end up getting angry because facts piss them off?

stumpysbear

(282 posts)
5. The morons know Allah and God are the same dude, right?
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:50 AM
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At least the catechism of the Catholic Church says so.

3catwoman3

(29,580 posts)
26. And I'm sure they think that 4 of the disciples were really named...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:18 PM
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...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

patphil

(9,137 posts)
18. A Rose by any other name is still a Rose.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:48 AM
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Every culture has it's own name for God.
We're always look for ways to name the creative force that goes far beyond that which can be contained in a name.
Words are simply inadequate.
The Native Americans refer to the "Great Spirit". That's about as good a name as any.

lastlib

(28,398 posts)
40. I call it "Physics"
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:43 PM
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What others ascribe to a deity, it's usually something the physical world does by virtue of physics. YMMV.

swong19104

(639 posts)
39. They don't believe
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:16 PM
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that “God”, “Gott”, “Dios”, “Dieu” and “Deus” are the same god.

wnylib

(26,226 posts)
43. Not only that, but Muslim scholars would have
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:53 PM
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a religious reason for doing research in a Christian library. In Islam, Jesus is a highly regarded prophet.

cab67

(3,798 posts)
44. historians as well.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:58 PM
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Anyone studying the Crusades, for example, would want to look at documents archived at the Vatican dating back to the period.

AZ8theist

(7,465 posts)
46. "But we ain't doin' nun a dat book lernin' bullcrap!!!"*
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 05:38 PM
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* Actual quote from MAGAT land

cab67

(3,798 posts)
58. Perhaps you've heard....
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:56 PM
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....of parents expressing shock - SHOCK! - that a teacher called their children "Homo sapiens?"

It's happened to friends of mine, even when the kids are in college.

AZ8theist

(7,465 posts)
59. LOL!! No, hadn't heard that one!
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 09:49 PM
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But when you tell the numptys that humans are great apes, they lose their minds.
They somehow think humans are "special". A caller to one of the on-line shows actually tried to argue that humans AREN'T animals!
I wanted to ask him, then what are we? Plants?

flashman13

(2,455 posts)
11. I believe it is called eccumentality. That is a sharing of unity and purpose among various
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:18 AM
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churches and religions. It is the opposite of my god is bigger, better, badder, and realer than your god.

lastlib

(28,398 posts)
14. It's that "mentality" part that throws them......
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:22 AM
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Since they have the alpha waves of a lettuce leaf, they can't handle facts that go against what's already wired in.

flashman13

(2,455 posts)
15. No one was born hating anyone. It's a learned thing very often connected to religious indoctrination.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:31 AM
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lastlib

(28,398 posts)
42. Quite true, but.....
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:47 PM
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I've never known one to integrate a transcendental fuction, or calculate a thermodynamic field tensor. But they have, I'm sure, outsmarted a few tRumpers in their lives.

evolves

(5,857 posts)
17. "My god can beat up your god"
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:34 AM
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is only a tiny intellectual step away from “My dad can beat up your dad”

These people are emotional and intellectual children.

FakeNoose

(41,952 posts)
19. Vatican City is a separate country, not a religious institution
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:57 AM
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Vatican City makes its own laws, collects its own taxes, maintains its own police department, etc. Yes it is wholly within the country of Italy, and also within the city of Rome. Once you cross the border of Vatican City, (it's a gate really) you are in a separate country.

If Italy suddenly outlawed Muslim worship (not gonna happen, but IF...) then it doesn't affect Vatican City at all. They make their own laws. If the Vatican wants to maintain a Muslim place of worship, they can do it.

Martin Eden

(15,723 posts)
20. Trump would have banned Islamic scholars from the Vatican
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:12 PM
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Petty, vindictive, ignorant, racist, President of the United States of America.

JoseBalow

(9,591 posts)
27. If his base were majority muslims, he'd pretend to be that
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:24 PM
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He only cares about what he can get out of people for his own benefit; drumpf only believes in himself.

Martin Eden

(15,723 posts)
37. Maybe FAFO and face-eating leopards will turn the tide
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:49 PM
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After a helluva lotta damage is done.

Snackshack

(2,591 posts)
25. It is interesting to see...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:15 PM
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The dichotomy corporation / elite have created between a global economy and tribalism. Since the 90's corporations / captains of industry have pushed for a global economy without understanding the ripple effects that the various standards of living from across the world would bring with it.

wcmagumba

(6,398 posts)
28. Good for Pope Leo, he understands how it's supposed to work...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:43 PM
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Add in a Buddhist prayer room, a Hindi prayer room, a Native American prayer room and others as far as I'm concerned, it's all good...

ms liberty

(11,284 posts)
31. The morans clutching their pearls are never going to use the Vatican Library
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:08 PM
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At most they would be amongst the crowd of loud, easily identifiable American yahoos milling about outside.
It's really none of their business.

PJMcK

(25,060 posts)
33. Self-proclaimed "Christians" are often profoundly ignorant about Christianity
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:19 PM
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I don't think I need to write anything more.

Blue Owl

(59,318 posts)
36. Easy way to weed out the extreme fundamentalists who are ruining everything with their hypocritical insanity
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:18 PM
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kimbutgar

(27,362 posts)
38. I was at the Vatican in 2018 and saw many Muslim men on the grounds who frequented that library
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 03:52 PM
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This is not new.

Passages

(4,273 posts)
41. Yet another flaw for the Pope, according to Trump Doctrine.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:46 PM
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Must be biogted at all times.

70sEraVet

(5,530 posts)
50. "But if they're prayin in a special room, how can we scream....
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:05 PM
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!! at them?! Trump says we can do that to anybody, now, whether they like it or not!"

RockRaven

(19,555 posts)
51. Basic (and no-cost) politeness to guests is an alien concept to RWers/MAGAts
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:15 PM
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They literally cannot imagine behaving so themselves. It is wild.

IbogaProject

(5,980 posts)
52. If you've never seen it
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 08:54 PM
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It is cool to see. They kiss the ground (prayer rug), sing quietly. I've seen it in the basement of my former building that was shared by a resturant. It is also a very scholarly culture, beyond their wealthy and western backed regressives.

WarGamer

(18,738 posts)
54. Perfectly normal...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:34 PM
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And as they claim... praying to the same god so what's the big deal??

ColoringFool

(815 posts)
56. "NEVER IN THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL TRUMP LIBRARY! NO
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:42 PM
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INFIDELS ALLOWED to assault our ears 10 times a day, maybe more!

Not in the ground-level stores or the replica of Trump Force One or the upper-floor condos with the world's best views to my spect...septic....spackle...big, beautiful BALLROOM! Gold like nobody's ever seen! They call me King Midas, you know that, right?

GOD BLESS AMERICA!"


orleans

(37,034 posts)
57. i love your comment "I know who the "concerned people" voted for." - it's perfect! nt
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 12:20 AM
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