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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Trump always chickens out'? NOT THIS TIME..... I don't think we should use that term tonight--
when the decision was clearly RIGHT, for once---- to not initiate a GENOCIDE against nearly 100 million people in Iran,
many of whom OPPOSE their current government,
and instead allow diplomacy to work, for once---
To say that he 'chickened out' is to imply that he
should have acted upon his promised threats--- which would have resulted in the deaths
of millions of innocent Iranians---- including those who oppose their current regime
wiping out their electric power plants and numerous bridges, with conventional weapons
as well as water plants would have effectively mimicked the results of a nuclear attack,
without using any nukes at all-- (minus the fallout)
but created a total humanitarian disaster in Iran....
and made the country "unlivable" --- no electricity, no clean water, no refridgeration of food....
and NO PRAISE of Trump here---- all his prior words are subject to condemnation and scorn!!!
(and are deserving of such)
BUT----- I don't think he should be 'mocked' for avoiding
committing a genocide which he threatened to commit,
before somebody talked him 'off the cliff'---
wait, I mean he possibly shouldn't be mocked for 'making the correct decision'---
Whether the orange geezer should be mocked for
having said those things in the first place,
that is a different thing and 'fair game' as I am concerned,
but it is a thin red line.....
(anybody recognize my movie reference there? story of the battles over Guadalcanal!)
Pardon my post--- I was seriously worried that the demented orange geezer
would initiate actions tonight which could precipitate World War Three---
so now I hope we have a reprieve of at least two weeks---
for which I am grateful!
(That's another two weeks for some Republicans to possibly come to their senses---
although I don't necessarily have much faith in that!)
Ms. Toad
(38,669 posts)Some of us have suggested it is counterproductive to ridicule him for finally doing the right thing.
WizumbODaSage
(15 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 8, 2026, 03:15 AM - Edit history (3)
to ... ... ... HUSH YO MOUTH! we hound him to his grave!
Ms. Toad
(38,669 posts)Ridiculing someone for being in a relationship with a trans person is trans hostile.
WizumbODaSage
(15 posts)...and assumin' y'all could dig it .. 😊
Ms. Toad
(38,669 posts)like trans-hostility.
Have at it all you want with a tan suit.
fujiyamasan
(1,771 posts)Or issuing constant threats in the first place?
He should be ridiculed for absolutely everything. I agree that its good he didnt go through with threatening to wipe out a civilization. Thats a no brainer. Commiting genocide isnt a good thing and no is saying he should have gone through with it.
Thats also completely besides the point. The reality is no one believes hell follow through with anything anyways. He did this exactly one year ago, and then backtracked once he saw how the markets reacted. This makes this country completely untrustworthy.
As his defense secretary has said, no quarter.
Fuck him. He never does the right thing. How about not issuing threats of genocide in the first place? Is the bar that low now?
agingdem
(8,874 posts)when he can make a profit or his mega donors start screaming or the threat of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment comes calling...
a senile Hitler wannabe started a war, sacrificed are sons and daughters, killed Iraqi school children, threatened genocide and he expects a good boy slap on the back...sorry, no can do..
pat_k
(13,426 posts)See LymphocyteLover's post HERE
It bears repeating:
Acts or THREATS
Department of Defense Law of War Manual (pages 189-190, left panel thumbnails 217-218)
Civilians must not be made the object of attack;
Military objectives may not be attacked when the expected incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, and damage to civilian objects would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage expected to be gained;
Civilians must not be used as shields or as hostages;
Measures of intimidation or terrorism against the civilian population are prohibited, including acts or threats of violence, the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population.
Keep in mind that Trump's threats communicated in his tweets are themselves war crimes.
— Scott Horton (@robertscotthorton.bsky.social) 2026-04-07T13:00:03.889Z
Jack Valentino
(5,084 posts)but I like the arguments you presented!
pat_k
(13,426 posts)stopdiggin
(15,489 posts)was probably never terribly clever in the first place.
(regardless the particular scenario - or self gratification involved)
1WorldHope
(2,070 posts)Among the thousand other reasons that came before. He must be confined as soon as possible and removed from office. My god this has gone too far for too long!
Jack Valentino
(5,084 posts)and self-proclaimed 'christians' have been WORSHIPPING THEIR ANTICHRIST
for far too long !!!!!!
pat_k
(13,426 posts)Who knows what the future may bring? Twenty or Republicans Senators may finally come to see they need to get behind removal -- not out of moral obligation (they've proven they have no morals), but to save the ass of the Republican Party.
As much as I would love to see such events unfold, I think even Republican support for removal it would be too little too last to save their asses
HesNotHere
(26 posts)Ok, so maybe there was a magical chance that he would scare Iranians into full capitulation with his bluffs, but otherwise, he either war crimes or runs. He deserves absolute ridicule because he alone started this thing and made it like a gameshow with his tweets, while pumping/dumping the market repeatedly.
WizumbODaSage
(15 posts)Kill 7000 Protestors Aren't Gonna Go All Wobbly When the Loudmouth from Queens Waves a Stick At Em! Too bad the first days bombing was so successful. Maybe it would have been better if the Mullahs had been kidnapped en masse, locked in a secret bunker with 24 hour blaring recordings of Barney Frank, Pete Buttigieg, AOC, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders for six months then we could have run 'em as Democrats in the midterms!
Justice matters.
(9,830 posts)Just watched Jimmy Kimmel expose the orange war criminal and kid rapist with a big taco joke.
LeftInTX
(34,391 posts)I think much of this was a "save face" deal which had been going on for several days under the veil of these threats.
DallasNE
(8,011 posts)I expected that the B-2's would be the primary bombers used and took that as the first clue that it was TACO time. All TACO time means to me is that Trump ran another bluff, and everybody now knows this is how Trump operates, so the tactic is meaningless - look at the Iran response.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,677 posts)I think he may finally be catching hell from those that have his ear. The billionaires, the Arab nations, some Republican "leadership". Television and radio pundits.
I guess he can get away with shooting somebody on 5th Ave. But don't mess with our oil supply or stock market and definitely don't praise Allah if you don't mean it.
Cosmocat
(15,431 posts)I totally get your point, personally view it the way you do.
But the VAST majority of our fellow countrymen and women are not as discerning as we are.
And Rs have LONG known that and used it to their advantage.
TACO is a simple and snappy quip people get and can agree on.
Dems have to get with the times and go this route A LOT more.
BH liberal
(135 posts)to go through with the bombing. This is just another ploy that includes a vague reference to "an Iranian official" agreeing to open the strait. The real story will begin to unfold today as we see whether the Iran government will actually open the waterway to all shipping or tell Trump to pound sand.
JI7
(93,657 posts)Not because he didn't go through with it but because that's not a way to do things regardless of whether you support going to war or not.
LeftInTX
(34,391 posts)Why are they abuse? They scare people, they frighten people. He's like the abusive spouse. He's doing alot of this for attention. He gets the whole country worked up. Everyone is talking about him non-stop. That's what he wants.
As for Iran, I don't know what type of internet servcies they have and I don't know how much the average citizen knew.
The rulers in Iran knew it wasn't going to happen. The govt of Iran pretty much says the same threatening shit back.
fujiyamasan
(1,771 posts)We hear this rhetoric frequently from countries in the region (I.e. the wipe you off threats Iran makes to Israel every few months). We heard it from Putin in 2022 (not as much anymore since their adventure hasnt gone as planned). We hear these kind of threats issued between India and Pakistan too when tensions flare up. Most of it is patriarchal machismo and blustering.
But we havent heard that typically from our own leaders. Its not as common in stable western countries. Basically his rhetoric reflects what a typical strongman dictator would spout.
Him backing out of this doesnt absolve him of this. Hes a street thug. With nukes.
LeftInTX
(34,391 posts)Because this goes against our norms and our rules of engagment and our perception of international relations, it is a threat to US citizens. It stokes fear and images of us engaged in a sudden nuclear war at the hands of imperialistic madman.
BH liberal
(135 posts)part of me hopes the Iranians call his bluff on this one.
BH liberal
(135 posts)"...Iran's plan, as published by the Iranian Mehr news agency, consists of a set of conditions that Iran claims the U.S. administration has accepted. They include Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz, acceptance of its nuclear enrichment, the withdrawal of all U.S. combat forces from the region, the lifting of all sanctions and U.N. resolutions against Iran, compensation of damages to Iran as well as cessation of war in all fronts, including in Lebanon.
NPR is working to independently verify if the plan provided to the U.S. administration is the same as the one published by Iranian state-controlled media."
Does anyone here believe that the Bump Administration has accepted these terms?
LeftInTX
(34,391 posts)So much for winning!
Sea Turtle
(91 posts)If Trump says he is going to do something we dont want him to do or we find outrageous and he doesnt do it but rather changes his mind for any reason, shouldnt we celebrate the win?
In other news, I am hearing the Iran was forcing women and children at gun point to surround the power plants, bridges, and other important infrastructure. That is beyond horrible. I dont think Trump could take out anything under those conditions. It is good that he didnt move forward and kill the people Iran in harms way.
Back to TACO, if he always chickens out and doesnt do anything, then why is everyone so upset? You cant have it both ways. Either he does stuff or he doesnt. If he is a do nothing place holder, then what is all the fear about him doing anything when the TACO crowd says he never follows through?
Scrivener7
(59,611 posts)Torchlight
(6,867 posts)I doubt he would be compelled to act one way or another because people on a message board have been calling him a boneless chicken for over a year now... his irrational and flawed decisions will be his alone regardless.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,570 posts)I was really scared 😳. I will never forgive this EVER.
Johnny2X2X
(24,255 posts)Trump Always Bends Over.
Cirsium
(3,957 posts)1. Bully threatens people
2. People stand up to bully
3. Bully backs down
4. We should be grateful to the bully for doing the right thing?
themaguffin
(5,240 posts)US is weakened globally and not treated with any respect or a good guy. We would be subject to scary retribution on way or another.
If not already for the damage done.