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dalton99a

(94,365 posts) Tue Apr 7, 2026, 07:28 PM Tuesday

How Trump Took the U.S. to War With Iran (NYT)

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZFA.xPyT.9mINGHkkV_mP

How Trump Took the U.S. to War With Iran
In a series of Situation Room meetings, President Trump weighed his instincts against the deep concerns of his vice president and a pessimistic intelligence assessment. Here’s the inside story of how he made the fateful decision.
By Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman
April 7, 2026 Updated 6:18 p.m. ET

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When Mr. Trump joined the meeting, Mr. Ratcliffe briefed him on the assessment. The C.I.A. director used one word to describe the Israeli prime minister’s regime change scenarios: “farcical.”

At that point, Mr. Rubio cut in. “In other words, it’s bullshit,” he said.

Several others jumped in, including Mr. Vance, just back from Azerbaijan, who also expressed strong skepticism about the prospect of regime change.

The president then turned to General Caine. “General, what do you think?”

General Caine replied: “Sir, this is, in my experience, standard operating procedure for the Israelis. They oversell, and their plans are not always well-developed. They know they need us, and that’s why they’re hard-selling.”

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Netanyahu scammed the fucking moron

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How Trump Took the U.S. to War With Iran (NYT) (Original Post) dalton99a Tuesday OP

Russia's making money and Trump is saving their economy. Irish_Dem Tuesday #1

Not having the positive effect... 2naSalit Tuesday #2

Yep Ukraine is fighting back. Putin is not in good shape. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #8

This article is SaneWashing Krasnov and his "administration" RockCreek Tuesday #3

The NYT reporters were going to put this info in a book. Haberman was gonna FO again irisblue Tuesday #4

Heads are going to roll . . . Ms. Toad Tuesday #5

I know..... LeftInTX Yesterday #6

Possibly some kompromat involved? moondust Yesterday #7

Kick...this article needs more exposure. It's a juicy read. LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #9

Irish_Dem

(81,520 posts)

1. Russia's making money and Trump is saving their economy.

Reply to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2026, 07:35 PM

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He took sanctions off of them.

2naSalit

(103,026 posts)

2. Not having the positive effect...

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 7, 2026, 07:51 PM

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They desired since Ukraine is taking away pootin's ability to ship anything by blowing up the ports as well as blowing up the refineries. EU countries are taking the shadow fleet into custody while others are being hit by drones. IQ45 may have lifted sanctions but Ukraine is making that action moot.

Irish_Dem

(81,520 posts)

8. Yep Ukraine is fighting back. Putin is not in good shape.

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 8, 2026, 08:20 AM

20 hrs ago

But Trump did try to give him some help.

RockCreek

(1,475 posts)

3. This article is SaneWashing Krasnov and his "administration"

Reply to dalton99a (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2026, 08:53 PM

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irisblue

(37,572 posts)

4. The NYT reporters were going to put this info in a book. Haberman was gonna FO again

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Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:15 PM

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Last edited Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:10 PM - Edit history (1)

This account of how Mr. Trump took the United States into war is drawn from reporting for a forthcoming book, “Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump.” It reveals how the deliberations inside the administration highlighted the president’s instincts, his inner circle’s fractures and the way he runs the White House. It draws on extensive interviews conducted on the condition of anonymity to recount internal discussions and sensitive issues. I 8f78t ,[*9&:_"