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(94,341 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:01 PM Yesterday

The President must be removed.

Rep. Eric Swalwell @RepSwalwell · 2h
The President must be removed. If Congress is too cowardly to do it, his own Cabinet must.

Ro Khanna @RoKhanna 4h
We need to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove Trump.

Threatening war crimes is a blatant violation of our constitution and the Geneva Conventions.


Kamala Harris @KamalaHarris
The President of the United States is threatening to commit war crimes and wipe out a "whole civilization" — all because he started a disastrous war of his own making and had no plan and no strategy for how to end it.

This is abhorrent, and the American people do not support this.

Trump's recklessness is needlessly putting our brave service members in harm's way, destroying America's global standing, and making life even more unaffordable for the American people.

We must all stand against this and oppose funding this illegal war of choice.
2:17 PM · Apr 7, 2026

Rep. Melanie Stansbury @Rep_Stansbury
Speaker Johnson, we are calling on you to bring the House back to DC IMMEDIATELY!

The Cabinet needs to invoke the 25th Amendment. But Congress can’t just sit on its hands and wait for that to happen when the President is threatening to commit war crimes TONIGHT.

This is all hands on deck—Democrats, Republicans, Independents—AMERICANS must look at using any and every tool to stop the President and his unauthorized war including the 25th Amendment, Impeachment, and War Powers Resolutions. The world is watching, and history will remember.

1:55 PM · Apr 7, 2026

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC 2h
This is a threat of genocide and merits removal from office. The President’s mental faculties are collapsing and cannot be trusted.

To every individual in the President’s chain of command: You have a duty to refuse illegal orders. That includes carrying out this threat.


Rep. Melanie Stansbury @Rep_Stansbury
America is at a crossroads. It’s time for Donald Trump to be removed from the Presidency. Period.

We need Republicans in Congress and the Cabinet to stand up and act immediately—human lives are on the line.



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The President must be removed. (Original Post) bigtree Yesterday OP
Rep. Raskin agrees the 25th amendment should be invoked spooky3 Yesterday #1
And none has the power to do anything. WarGamer Yesterday #2
Do any of them expect the GOP or the Cabinet to do a fucking thing? maxsolomon Yesterday #3
Good statements all but, Disaffected Yesterday #4
What do you think he would say? Please be specific. nt TBF Yesterday #17
Too Late Maninacan Yesterday #5
Or he could bite a cyanide capsule and blow out his brains down in his bunker struggle4progress Yesterday #6
Wondering if he is building an insanity defense, complete with a pension other retirement benefits Attilatheblond Yesterday #24
We have to deal with nearly three more years of this shit? sop Yesterday #7
We made it through Greg_In_SF Yesterday #8
You must have good healthcare leftstreet Yesterday #10
I am Greg_In_SF Yesterday #16
Many made it through, many others didn't. Torchlight Yesterday #18
After, but this is so much worse. Katinfl Yesterday #21
He was coo coo in the first term. BannonsLiver Yesterday #27
Pete hegseth is just like Mattis. Nt lostnfound Yesterday #36
Hang in there! If we take the House this fall it will help a lot. spooky3 Yesterday #15
He won't make it bdamomma Yesterday #42
At least they're speaking up! MIButterfly Yesterday #9
I'm glad they are to MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #20
DURec leftstreet Yesterday #11
K&R spanone Yesterday #12
If Congress is too cowardly to do it, then the 25th won't work onenote Yesterday #13
Both are high bars to reach. Not impossible, but highly improbable. IMO Katinfl Yesterday #22
Actually, if the Vice President and a majority of the cabinet agree that the President is not mentally or physically able state of stupid Yesterday #23
Not exactly AZ8theist Yesterday #32
Incomplete and inaccurate description. onenote Yesterday #39
I am so sick of comments like "This is not normal." Trueblue Texan Yesterday #14
This is and always has been (at least in the past 65 years) the Republican Party Bluestocking Yesterday #28
If Democratic leadership called for a general strike crud Yesterday #19
How about writing a letter to the military to remind them these are illegal orders? Escurumbele Yesterday #25
With many on the far right now calling for his removal along with the Democrats, it really shouldn't be that tall a Fil1957 Yesterday #26
Fox News is right now putting on talking heads defending the war and Trump. SunSeeker Yesterday #29
Fox Propagandists bdamomma Yesterday #44
If you have a Republican Senator, demand they make a public statement in support of removal NOW! pat_k Yesterday #30
JD Vance is not doing his job, and neither are Republicans in Congress. ShazzieB Yesterday #31
Unless 2/3 of the House and Senate concurs, it won't happen. onenote Yesterday #40
Good question. ShazzieB 18 hrs ago #46
Maybe this is the deal to make SomedayKindaLove Yesterday #33
Removed. twodogsbarking Yesterday #34
I vote for ELIMINATION vs removal. NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #35
The statement is certainly having the effect he wanted. BlueTsunami2018 Yesterday #37
Yes! SheltieLover Yesterday #38
The House bdamomma Yesterday #41
POS belongs in a cage. dalton99a Yesterday #43
Well bdamomma Yesterday #45
K&R betsuni 13 hrs ago #47

spooky3

(38,675 posts)
1. Rep. Raskin agrees the 25th amendment should be invoked
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:03 PM
Yesterday

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“ Donald Trump’s deranged threat to destroy “a whole civilization” in Iran is a threat to commit war crimes and genocide. Republicans in Congress must prevail upon Vice President Vance, now campaigning for Putin’s puppet Viktor Orban in Hungary, to return to the U.S. and invoke Section 4 of the 25th Amendment.”

maxsolomon

(38,812 posts)
3. Do any of them expect the GOP or the Cabinet to do a fucking thing?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:05 PM
Yesterday

I doubt they're that naive.

These are strongly worded tweets, though.

Attilatheblond

(8,958 posts)
24. Wondering if he is building an insanity defense, complete with a pension other retirement benefits
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:37 PM
Yesterday

It's obvious he is not having fun pretending to be POTUS.

If he gets 25th out of office, is that his ticket out of all the legal cases against him?

leftstreet

(40,881 posts)
10. You must have good healthcare
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:14 PM
Yesterday

I seem to remember a bunch of people losing theirs recently

Greg_In_SF

(1,287 posts)
16. I am
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:46 PM
Yesterday

pretty happy with my Blue Shield health insurance plan. It is a little pricey though.

BannonsLiver

(20,642 posts)
27. He was coo coo in the first term.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:49 PM
Yesterday

Now he’s in the throes of dementia, surrounded by some the dumbest, most sadistic, wackos on the planet.

spooky3

(38,675 posts)
15. Hang in there! If we take the House this fall it will help a lot.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:43 PM
Yesterday

Johnson won’t be Speaker. Dems will chair committees, including those that will investigate TSF and his cronies. The only legislation that will be introduced will be bills Dems support. Senators may open their eyes as to the possibility of their losing their seats in later elections. Etc.

MIButterfly

(2,814 posts)
9. At least they're speaking up!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:11 PM
Yesterday

They may have no power to do anything but at least they're saying something. Not that every news source will quote them but maybe, just maybe, they just might get the people who can do something to listen to them and take some action. It's better than nothing.

A girl can dream, can't she?

onenote

(46,159 posts)
13. If Congress is too cowardly to do it, then the 25th won't work
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:17 PM
Yesterday

Sometimes I wonder whether the folks demanding the 25th amendment be invoked understand how it works and how, ultimately, it would require 2/3 vote of both house of Congress to make it stick.

If Congress won't impeach, which takes a simple majority in the House and 2/3 in the Senate, why would it vote 2/3 of both Houses to remove the president permanently under the 25th.

state of stupid

(154 posts)
23. Actually, if the Vice President and a majority of the cabinet agree that the President is not mentally or physically able
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:24 PM
Yesterday

to perform the duties of the office they can remove him until such a time he is deemed to be able to perform his duties again.

Twenty-fifth Amendment | Presidential Succession & Disability
The 25th Amendment to the United States Constitution addresses issues related to presidential succession and disability. It clarifies that the vice president becomes president if the president dies, resigns, or is removed from office by impeachment. It also establishes the procedure for filling a vacancy in the office of the vice president. The amendment provides for the temporary transfer of the president's powers and duties to the vice president, either on the president's initiative alone or on the initiative of the vice president, together with a majority of the president's cabinet. In either case, the vice president becomes the acting president until the president's powers and duties are restored. The amendment was submitted to the states on July 6, 1965, by the 89th Congress, and was adopted on February 10, 1967, the day the requisite number of states (38) ratified it.

AZ8theist

(7,419 posts)
32. Not exactly
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:03 PM
Yesterday

Under the 25th, after the VP and a majority of the cabinet declare him unfit, the President can immediately declare to the Senate Pro Tem and House Speaker that no disability exists. Then the VP and cabinet would have to petition Congress to decide the issue, requiring 2/3 vote of BOTH HOUSES to remove him. The process will get ugly and a Constitutional crisis will ensue. Plus, there is virtually ZERO chance of both houses voting to remove.

None of this has ever been tested.

Furthermore, if Dotard even gets an inkling that the 25th is even being considered, he can simply fire everyone in the cabinet and hire even more sycophants to worship him, thus ending any prospect of removal.

Impeachment or death (however it happens) are the only real hopes for removal.

Meanwhile, as always, Putin is in Moscow sipping champagne while watching the unraveling of America.

onenote

(46,159 posts)
39. Incomplete and inaccurate description.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:45 PM
Yesterday

Here is the text of the relevant section of the 25th Amendment:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Trueblue Texan

(4,501 posts)
14. I am so sick of comments like "This is not normal."
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:33 PM
Yesterday

Tell the unvarnished truth: This is abso-f*cking-lutely INSANE!!!!!

Bluestocking

(663 posts)
28. This is and always has been (at least in the past 65 years) the Republican Party
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:51 PM
Yesterday

Do you remember what W said- I am okay with a dictatorship, as long as I am the dictator, hehe

crud

(1,267 posts)
19. If Democratic leadership called for a general strike
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:03 PM
Yesterday

or a massive protest in DC would they be arrested? Would Democrats show up? Would there be violence and crack downs? Will there be orders to shoot protestors? I don't think he will stop his dangerous actions, he needs to be removed from office now. What is it going to take?

Escurumbele

(4,095 posts)
25. How about writing a letter to the military to remind them these are illegal orders?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:44 PM
Yesterday

I have been saying it for some time, to me, the biggest problem is when the military obeys orders they know are illegal, and become a tool for a dictator. They have to refuse illegal orders, they should have refused the initial attack, but we are past that point.

Dictatorships cannot exist without the support of the military, and so far, the military has obeyed illegal orders, has betrayed the country by doing so.

Fil1957

(713 posts)
26. With many on the far right now calling for his removal along with the Democrats, it really shouldn't be that tall a
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:48 PM
Yesterday

mountain to climb.

That is, if we live in a sane world. I'm not sure we do.

SunSeeker

(58,295 posts)
29. Fox News is right now putting on talking heads defending the war and Trump.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:57 PM
Yesterday

Unfuckingbelievable.

pat_k

(13,426 posts)
30. If you have a Republican Senator, demand they make a public statement in support of removal NOW!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:01 PM
Yesterday

Work on House Republicans too. Public statements in support of Articles of Impeachment.

Save OUR f-ing "civilization." Get back to DC, pass Articles of Impeachment and send for an immediate, overwhelming Vote to Convict in the Senate.

And make the strongest case possible with Senate offices in the states Trump is underwater. If they won't do this to redeem their souls, then do it to save their own asses:

Alaska
Florida
Iowa
North Carolina
Ohio
Texas.
Pennsylvania

ShazzieB

(22,651 posts)
31. JD Vance is not doing his job, and neither are Republicans in Congress.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:01 PM
Yesterday

However, the 25th amendment is the fastest way to get him out of office, and that's on Vance and the rest of the cabinet. Fuck them all for letting this travesty continue.

onenote

(46,159 posts)
40. Unless 2/3 of the House and Senate concurs, it won't happen.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:46 PM
Yesterday

What do you think the chances of that happening are?

ShazzieB

(22,651 posts)
46. Good question.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:03 AM
18 hrs ago

It would definitely not be easy. But they'll never have a chance to vote on it if those with the power to initiate the process don't act.

It has to start SOMEWHERE.

SomedayKindaLove

(1,189 posts)
33. Maybe this is the deal to make
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:05 PM
Yesterday

To Cabinet and Congress;

Vote to Invoke the 25th Amendment and you’ll be granted immunity.

Otherwise, see you in the Hague

BlueTsunami2018

(5,004 posts)
37. The statement is certainly having the effect he wanted.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:25 PM
Yesterday

Scaring people, he’s so crazy he might just do it, he’s unpredictable and blah blah blah.

This is just an updated version of Reagan’s infamous “we begin bombing in five minutes” so-called joke.

It too prompted fear, an over the top reaction from the opposition and a sense that Captain Jellybean was so hardline and “tough” that he might start a war with the Soviets.

Piss isn’t nuking anyone. And he’s not as stupid and crazy as everyone thinks. He’s ignorant and crass sure but he’s hoping Iran will bite on the crazy bait and capitulate to him.

I don’t think they’re as reactionary and afraid as the people here certainly are. The longer this goes on, the better position they’re actually in. They’re hurting the money people more every day. Piss needs a deal far more than they do.

bdamomma

(69,555 posts)
41. The House
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 06:52 PM
Yesterday

must deal with this madman, those of us who haven't called their Reps or Senators keep on trying them The 25th Amendment must be invoked!!!!!!

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