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senseandsensibility

(25,038 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:48 AM Yesterday

I don't recognize this Wesley Clark

Anyone remember General Wesley Clark, who ran for President as a Democrat and ridiculed dubya for "prancing around on a flight deck" during the "mission accomplished" spectacle?

Well, he is now defending trump's Iran strategy on CNN. He said, among other things, that we are only six weeks in and we need to give it more time to break the will of the Iranian regime. He said that if we destroy Iranian infrastructure it will lead to them being isolated economically and that will lead to them being more reasonable. He also said that if it gets bad the Iranian people will rise up. He did not express concern at all for civilian lives in the segment that I heard.

I was shocked and disappointed. CNN is in sanewash overdrive this morning.




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I don't recognize this Wesley Clark (Original Post) senseandsensibility Yesterday OP
*IF* it gets bad??? wnylib Yesterday #1
How many investments does he have in the military industrial complex? Irish_Dem Yesterday #2
How many investments does he have in the military industrial complex? Irish_Dem Yesterday #3
I don't know senseandsensibility Yesterday #5
Go to his wiki page. .quite a list of business interests. niyad Yesterday #21
Thanks will take a look. Irish_Dem Yesterday #22
He has entered the maga delusional world. Iran is not going to surrender. Walleye Yesterday #4
Very disappointing. Spazito Yesterday #6
Over the years since 2004, I realize that he was almost a stealth candidate karynnj Yesterday #7
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Yesterday #8
Well, that's a bit disappointing. BlueTsunami2018 Yesterday #9
Well just damn Traildogbob Yesterday #10
WTF Tdb ? !? dweller Yesterday #12
I could be wrong Traildogbob Yesterday #14
Wishing you an early Happy Birthday, just in case! niyad Yesterday #19
IKR ? dweller Yesterday #20
There's a small matter of the Caspian Sea nitpicked Yesterday #11
He's right -misanthroptimist Yesterday #13
I listened to this and was struck by one small detail! BidenRocks Yesterday #15
Good point senseandsensibility Yesterday #16
Disappointed, not entirely surprised. niyad Yesterday #17
I just read his wiki page. .a real eye-opener. niyad Yesterday #18
This disappointing MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #23

Irish_Dem

(81,515 posts)
2. How many investments does he have in the military industrial complex?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:52 AM
Yesterday

Is he making money from this war?

Irish_Dem

(81,515 posts)
3. How many investments does he have in the military industrial complex?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:52 AM
Yesterday

Is he making money from this war?

Irish_Dem

(81,515 posts)
22. Thanks will take a look.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:30 PM
Yesterday

Even if these guys make money off of the war, if everything gets blown up
in the process, that might not help them?

But I knew people who got very rich off the Viet Nam war.

karynnj

(60,984 posts)
7. Over the years since 2004, I realize that he was almost a stealth candidate
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:02 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)

He had spent almost his entire adult life in the military and, as was the norm, did not take political positions. So, when he ran two things were true. He had no public positions or, for the most part, comments from past decades to defend. He also had no political experience.

The latter doomed his campaign. He did not run in Iowa, spending his time in New Hampshire, where his inexperience caused his initial support to implode even before Iowa. Those voters, some of whom originally Dean moved to undecided and most moved to Kerry after Iowa.

As a former top military person, he was welcomed by us when he attacked Bush. I think it is interesting that Obama made former Republican Senator Hagel the Secretary of Defense, but there was never any public discussion of Clark.

Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)

BlueTsunami2018

(5,001 posts)
9. Well, that's a bit disappointing.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:03 PM
Yesterday

I was a Clarkie way back in the day. Still have the campaign sticker on my toolbox. I’ve become a leftist since then and he’s probably stayed the same.

Today me would have slapped 2003 me.

I would have seen this coming.

Generals like war.

Traildogbob

(13,046 posts)
10. Well just damn
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:07 PM
Yesterday

Some body gotta call Stephanie Miller Wednesday to ask Carlos about this stance. Oh, never mind, there will be no Wednesday.
Today’s date: 4-7. Coincidence.
Senior Chief Malcom Nance, say’s Coincidences take lots of planning.
How many of my guitars can I take to a rapture with me? I wanna jam with Petty.
People say, strings never die in heaven, so that’s good news.
Bye ya’ll. We tried. Guess we gonna be the Dark side of the Earth. Our astronauts will be the Arch and have to repopulate Earth. Well, the new Earth will have Canadian genes in it’s people, so that’s a good thing.
We could not even make it to celebrate weed day.😔
Fuck you trump and your cult of fools, murderers rapists and thieves. Our stolen cash will do you no good in hell. It will feed the flames.

dweller

(28,461 posts)
12. WTF Tdb ? !?
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:25 PM
Yesterday

Tomorrow is my birthday … now im not going to ever be 72 ?

well damn
😕



✌🏻

Traildogbob

(13,046 posts)
14. I could be wrong
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:38 PM
Yesterday

I just turned 74, shits breaking like a 1954 Plymouth that has lots of miles. That car would be 72.
Think of the Bday party you can have tomorrow, if his ass is drug out of our house by the best of our military and locked up with his cohorts!
My BDay wish for your, 72 comes and many more prosperous ones follow without MAGA control.
Just us radical liberal woke old hippies.

nitpicked

(1,873 posts)
11. There's a small matter of the Caspian Sea
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:12 PM
Yesterday

And established shipping routes between Russian and Iran, according to Google.

-misanthroptimist

(1,642 posts)
13. He's right
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:35 PM
Yesterday

Remember when the German citizenry rose up deposed Hitler when Germany was bombed to rubble? Oh, wait. That didn't happen. There's no reason to believe it will happen in Iran.

Clark is wrong in all likelihood.

BidenRocks

(3,300 posts)
15. I listened to this and was struck by one small detail!
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

We are NOT in a declared war which allows your wish list fantasies to be realized.

You used to be employed by us. Now you are a free lancer stoking the flames of war.

I will bash him because he is NO LONGER a Democratic figure!

What's in HIS portfolio! We live in an age of war profiteering and everyone needs to be looked at that may have a conflict and is attempting to influence public opinion! War is good for media paychecks!

He is talking tactics of an ILLEGAL war! Get congressional approval and I will shut up!

senseandsensibility

(25,038 posts)
16. Good point
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:45 PM
Yesterday

I was struck by his complete inability to criticize (even mildly) the lack of legality for any of this, the fact that civilian targets are not to be hit according to NATO (didn't he oversee NATO at one point) or the breaking apart of NATO altogether through threats and unilateral action.

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