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gab13by13

(32,410 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:11 AM Yesterday

Someone Explain To Me About The Invisible Hand Of The Market

I am as stupid as hell when it comes to the market, but what I see today makes me believe the markets are being cajoled.

Petrochemical plants are being blown up, explosions on Kharg Island, tonight is Krasnov's Armageddon Day for Iran. blowing up nuclear power plants is WW III shit. The radiation released will affect other countries besides Iran.

The Houthis are threatening to disrupt another strait.

I fully expected to see crude oil skyrocket to at least $125.00/barrel if not higher.

The DOW is down a meager 200 points.

Is the Invisible hand of the market more reliable when a Democrat is president?

Are these billionaires manipulating the markets the same way they fluff Trump?

Last but not least, when Krasnov says he is going to kill them all, glory to God, the markets need to respond to an openly demented, maniacal president. The fucking world is rooting for Iran for fuck's sake.

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Someone Explain To Me About The Invisible Hand Of The Market (Original Post) gab13by13 Yesterday OP
I think the markets are holding their breath today Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #1
It's a fancy economic term for "tautology" -misanthroptimist Yesterday #2
The invisible hand is betting on TACOs. Ocelot II Yesterday #3
Don't Look For Rational Explanations... ProfessorGAC Yesterday #4
The invisible hand isn't always an abstraction Metaphorical Yesterday #5
The Invisible Hand of the Market is busy picking our collective pockets at gas stations and grocery stores. sop Yesterday #6
Considering the number of shares traded every day DFW Yesterday #7

ProfessorGAC

(76,827 posts)
4. Don't Look For Rational Explanations...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:41 AM
Yesterday

...to market behavior.
That ship sailed long ago.
We need loom no further than TSLA. Market cap of around $1.05 trillion. The pretax net income ladt year was $3.8 billion. There is no rational explanation for that.

Metaphorical

(2,640 posts)
5. The invisible hand isn't always an abstraction
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

The markets have been manipulated for a long time now. The market can climb as much as it wants, but there will always be breakers to keep the market from falling, even stop trading if it looks like it may go into a catastrophic rout. That bias means that on average the market will rise over time even if no value is actually being generated, and will make companies who are part of those indexes more valuable on paper than they actually are. Couple that with overt market manipulation (which I have no doubt is being done), and you have a recipe for a market that has indexes with no connection to reality, which is where we are now.

sop

(18,729 posts)
6. The Invisible Hand of the Market is busy picking our collective pockets at gas stations and grocery stores.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:56 AM
Yesterday

DFW

(60,240 posts)
7. Considering the number of shares traded every day
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:24 PM
Yesterday

And that's about a billion on the New York exchange alone, even with "the oligarchs and the rich" scheming around, there are an awful lot of ordinary people around the world just trying their hand at day trading and long term investing--a few million per day, I suspect. I can well imagine that individuals who are well-placed in certain industries and commodities (oil, eg) or finite physical investments (gold, Palladium, etc.), as well as central banks, who control thousands of tons of gold, and who can skew certain markets for limited amounts of time, but not forever. There are just too many other players.

I, for one, would prefer the markets do not respond at all to Trump's ravings. To a sociopath who craves attention, the greatest punishment of all is to deny it to him completely. I think a day when the news of the world does not mention his name once, anywhere, would be like the day he was denied oxygen.

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