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Passages

(4,206 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 08:11 AM Friday

Senator Chris Murphy: It's likely that experienced generals are telling Hegseth his Iran war plans are unworkable,

It's likely that experienced generals are telling Hegseth his Iran war plans are unworkable, disastrous, and deadly.
Also, Hegseth is firing a ton of experienced generals right now.








Remove anything and anyone who gets in the King's way, regardless of reality.
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Senator Chris Murphy: It's likely that experienced generals are telling Hegseth his Iran war plans are unworkable, (Original Post) Passages Friday OP
May they promptly run for office. sunflowerseed Friday #1
I would rather they open their mouths and tell America what is really going on. Autumn Friday #2
Yes, 100%! Why don't they do that? And do it as a group - it would be even more effective than individually. TheRickles Friday #9
How about both? Bluetus Friday #10
Hegseth taking out more US generals than Iran leftstreet Friday #3
How many so far? Autumn Friday #4
Google says: peppertree Friday #16
Yikes! Stunning when seen as a list. yellow dahlia Friday #27
Not cute, Ron. littlemissmartypants Saturday #33
I hope if Trump is even thinking of using nukes... biocube Friday #5
You can bet money on him thinking about it. littlemissmartypants Saturday #34
As much as I hate to even think it... IrishAfricanAmerican Friday #6
Strongly worded letters... GiqueCee Friday #7
Psychopaths are in charge of the United States government. littlemissmartypants Saturday #32
Putin is smiling... dlk Friday #8
And Bibi... peppertree Friday #18
Indeed dlk Friday #31
Just like everything else, Trump is following Hitler. ChicagoTeamster Friday #11
Can they speak to Congressmen/Senators on committees karynnj Friday #12
I hope Congress invites them. yellow dahlia Friday #28
This is where the former Pentagon press corp could be handy. underpants Friday #30
Only Nazis need apply peppertree Friday #13
That sounds about right. Baitball Blogger Friday #14
Stalin did that too paleotn Friday #15
Those generals need to get together and kick Hegseth's ass out. BComplex Friday #17
That's easy to say, but . . . markpkessinger Friday #25
Hegseths Goal Is Like Trumps Coolgoober Friday #19
As long as they keep Raisin' Caine Mblaze Friday #20
And War Crimes ... and illegal orders but Kegseth does not believe in laws JT45242 Friday #21
Sycophant General Grok AI reporting for duty! hay rick Friday #22
Weaken the U.,S. military? Who would want such a thing? usonian Friday #23
The republican regime of idiots will be a disaster for our military Mysterian Friday #24
Destroying our once great country, piece by piece. lindysalsagal Friday #26
Someone in the office joked with the O-6 embedded with us haele Friday #29

Autumn

(48,967 posts)
2. I would rather they open their mouths and tell America what is really going on.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:07 AM
Friday

And what these people are planning on doing. That would do more to save America than running for office

TheRickles

(3,415 posts)
9. Yes, 100%! Why don't they do that? And do it as a group - it would be even more effective than individually.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:00 AM
Friday

I know there's the threat of losing their pensions in retribution, and Sen. Mark Kelly's suit against his pension loss hasn't been decided yet. But it'd be a huge catalyst for change if they all spoke out now.

Bluetus

(2,892 posts)
10. How about both?
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:01 AM
Friday

Although I don't think it is necessarily healthy for military lifers to be in Congress where they are likely to vote for huge increases to the Pentagon budget buying bloated, useless, outdated systems.

That AWACS plane that Iran blew up last week was one of only 14 remaining. These planes went into service 49 years ago. Boeing has made a modern replacement, which several countries are now using, but we haven't taken any -- I don't know why not.

We have spent roughly a quarter-trillion (2026) dollars on the B1 and B2, yet here we are, preferring the B52, which has been in service over 70 years. WTF is the Pentagon doing with the > $1 trillion we give it every year?

leftstreet

(40,922 posts)
3. Hegseth taking out more US generals than Iran
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:13 AM
Friday

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
·1h
Seems like Hegseth is taking out more generals in the US than Iran.



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peppertree

(23,377 posts)
16. Google says:
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:29 AM
Friday

·General Randy George: The Army Chief of Staff was ordered to step down and retire immediately in April 2026.

·General David Hodne: Fired from his role leading the Army's Transformation and Training Command.

·Major General William Green Jr.: Fired as the head of the Army's Chaplain Corps.

·General Charles Q. Brown Jr.: Dismissed from his position as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

·Admiral Lisa Franchetti: Removed as the Navy’s top admiral.

·Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force Gen. James Slife

·Head of U.S. Cyber Command Gen. Timothy Haugh

·Commandant of the Coast Guard Adm. Linda Fagan

·Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kruse

·Lt. Gen. Jennifer Short

·Rear Adm. Milton Sands

and several top military lawyers.

Many were, apparently, not replaced at all - which, of course, means he's getting marching orders from Putin and Bibi-approved handlers.

littlemissmartypants

(33,857 posts)
34. You can bet money on him thinking about it.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 03:21 AM
Saturday

Remember how he wanted to

Create a snake or alligator-filled trench aimed to create a lethal barrier alongside the border wall?

Add electric spikes on fencing to physically prevent climbing?

Paint it black to make it hot for climbers to touch?

Shoot people but only in the legs to make it less lethal?

Psychopaths love to hurt. The act of hurting is how they perceive love. That's how twisted that they are.


Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,492 posts)
6. As much as I hate to even think it...
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:44 AM
Friday

I think our military is going to take a big hit from this foolish scheme. All of this is so unnecessary and stupid. All Trump's and the GOP's fault.

GiqueCee

(4,348 posts)
7. Strongly worded letters...
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:48 AM
Friday

... are not going to stop these psychotic monsters that are "Flooding the Zone" with nonstop, cataclysmic acts of flat out treason. Yeah, we all know how narrow the Constitutional definition of treason is, but in practical terms, is there really any other name for what they're doing on a daily basis?
How much more destruction, and how many assaults on common human decency will America have to endure before we say, ENOUGH? Or is it already too late?

littlemissmartypants

(33,857 posts)
32. Psychopaths are in charge of the United States government.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 03:09 AM
Saturday
Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior


That several of them could also be in psychosis is exponentially scarier.

peppertree

(23,377 posts)
18. And Bibi...
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:46 AM
Friday

"Can you believe it, Itamar? We not only genocided Gaza - if Trump sends in enough of those ghetto grunts of theirs, we may soon get a little "ethnic cleansing" done in America itself!"

ChicagoTeamster

(1,008 posts)
11. Just like everything else, Trump is following Hitler.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:04 AM
Friday

Last edited Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:03 AM - Edit history (1)

Adolf Hitler consistently removed, reassigned, or sidelined senior generals who disagreed with his strategic plans, particularly as the war progressed. He replaced critical or traditionalist military leaders with loyalists or Nazis, especially after 1938, creating a command structure based on blind obedience to his "intuition" rather than traditional military expertise.

After publicly blaming foreigners, Jews, communists, Hitler made a secret pact, the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, with the Russians to split Poland and not invade further east (later violated). Then they each invaded Poland in 1939. Similar to the Trump administration's 2026 National Defense Strategy that emphasized focusing on the Western Hemisphere (not Europe) and allowing other powers to have their own spheres of influence and the Russians saying they agreed.

Add to that Trump and Hitler both having obsessions with government architecture, creating new ballrooms, remaking existing buildings etc.

Trump being a micromanager (like Hitler), many of his administration being former and continuing sex offenders like Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda. He was a prolific sexual predator who engaged in numerous extramarital affairs. Despite maintaining a public image of himself and his wife, Magda, as the "First Family of the Reich" (representing Aryan loyalty and fertility), Goebbels was known within the Nazi High Command as "the ram" due to his aggressive pursuit of actresses and young women.

These people are sick. Just like the Nazis.

karynnj

(60,990 posts)
12. Can they speak to Congressmen/Senators on committees
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:17 AM
Friday

that would give them both the security clearance and need to know? Congress needs to invite them.

Who is actually doing the military planning?

underpants

(196,661 posts)
30. This is where the former Pentagon press corp could be handy.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 12:17 PM
Friday

Remember Kegsbreath ran out the long time reporters with basically a loyalty oath. He brought in all their little twerp podcasters and influencers including Laura Loomer and Matt Gaetz.

The old timers talked to Generals and Admirals all the time. If there’s a leak it’s coming through them.

paleotn

(22,282 posts)
15. Stalin did that too
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:26 AM
Friday

and if not for the equal stupidity of the “Austrian corporal” it might have been the end of him. Of course Stalin had them shot. At least we’ve not gone that far……yet.

This will end with a failed operation and mass casualties. At the very least no change in status quo with mass casualties. Hope it doesn’t take that to end the orange bastard but it might.

BComplex

(9,923 posts)
17. Those generals need to get together and kick Hegseth's ass out.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:44 AM
Friday

Not part of American history or culture, but neither is having our entire system of allies and support thrown out of our military policies.

markpkessinger

(8,923 posts)
25. That's easy to say, but . . .
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 12:00 PM
Friday

. . . there is no legal mechanism that would enable the generals to do that.

Next idea?

Coolgoober

(358 posts)
19. Hegseths Goal Is Like Trumps
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:49 AM
Friday

Surround himself with losers and stupid people that are yes men. It might make him look great and successfull. NOPE!!!

JT45242

(4,051 posts)
21. And War Crimes ... and illegal orders but Kegseth does not believe in laws
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:02 AM
Friday

They keep telling him
a) This is illegal we cannot target civilians, it's a war crime
b) That violates the rules of engagement and would be a court martial offense
c) This will not work -- it will just risk lives with no real accomplishment

Kegseth -- We'll find someone who says what we want to hear. You are fired

hay rick

(9,626 posts)
22. Sycophant General Grok AI reporting for duty!
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:04 AM
Friday

I bet most of those ex-generals and ex-admirals couldn't do 50 pushups!

Mysterian

(6,534 posts)
24. The republican regime of idiots will be a disaster for our military
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:56 AM
Friday

and the entire nation, what's left of it.

haele

(15,423 posts)
29. Someone in the office joked with the O-6 embedded with us
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 12:17 PM
Friday

Saying the way things were going, this time next year, he'd be on the CNO's staff...
The look on his face was "I'll retire first..."

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