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marmar

(79,789 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:21 AM Thursday

Not just ICE: Do we need DHS?


Not just ICE: Do we need DHS?
In it’s 24 year history DHS has failed to make Americans safer and has become increasingly politicized

By Russell Payne
Staff Reporter
Published April 2, 2026 6:30AM (EDT)


(Salon) The shutdown at the Department of Homeland Security is stretching into its second month with no end in sight, raising the ire of critics on both the left and right, with some asking whether the department’s duties would be better handled by other government agencies.

DHS has been partially shut down since Feb. 14, but with Congress on recess until mid April, the lack of funding is poised to go on for at least a couple more weeks. The record-breaking shutdown has produced chaotic, long lines at airports, owing to the Transportation Security Administration, a division of DHS, not being paid for most of the shutdown. This has been the most public pain point, affecting the greatest number of Americans.

Considering the fact that DHS is the fourth-largest federal department and the largest department not related to the military, critics are pointing out that the shutdown seems to have had little impact on most American’s lives. President Donald Trump even felt comfortable attacking Iran alongside Israel, despite the fact that DHS — a department founded on the notion that it could protect Americans from terrorism — was not operating beyond its essential capacity.

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David Perry, a University of Minnesota historian who has previously advocated for entirely dismantling the department, told Salon in an interview that he thinks this shutdown should serve as an opportunity to rethink whether the country even needs DHS.

“We have to start pressuring people right now,” Perry said. “Put bureaucracy with bureaucracy, put enforcement with enforcement, separate the [Federal Emergency Management Agency] and give it independence again. That’s three bullet points. I would like to see those three bullet points in the party platform. I think we can do it.” ...................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2026/04/02/not-just-ice-do-we-need-dhs/




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Not just ICE: Do we need DHS? (Original Post) marmar Thursday OP
The Patriot Act UpInArms Thursday #1
It was never about security. It's about power and control and bucolic_frolic Thursday #2
No, we don't Miguelito Loveless Thursday #3
IMO, we need parts that never should have been swept into DHS nitpicked Thursday #4
First year of the Coast Guard being swept into DHS Hope22 Thursday #7
I've long been a proponent of abolishing DHS Jilly_in_VA Thursday #5
DURec leftstreet Thursday #6
Get rid of DHS. mr715 Thursday #8

bucolic_frolic

(55,273 posts)
2. It was never about security. It's about power and control and
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:24 AM
Thursday

making paranoid types feel important that they are doing something about the security problem that doesn't exist.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,769 posts)
3. No, we don't
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:26 AM
Thursday

DHS needs to, and the entire remaining federal law enforcement establishments needs to re-built from the ground up after firing and investigating every Trump appointee and person hired under his appointees.

nitpicked

(1,873 posts)
4. IMO, we need parts that never should have been swept into DHS
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:27 AM
Thursday

Such as the Coast Guard and FEMA.

Hope22

(4,777 posts)
7. First year of the Coast Guard being swept into DHS
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 11:29 AM
Thursday

We were getting our I68’s processed ( a form to facilitate checking back into the US while on the Great Lakes) with a Coast Guard officer who had helped us for years. As we were leaving I asked him if he knew what my happiest day would be. He said no what and I responded , ‘ when Homeland Security is disbanded and the Coast Guard gets its powers back!!’. His reply….you and me both!! Of course my sailing partner gulped air at the question! So many years ago!

Jilly_in_VA

(14,408 posts)
5. I've long been a proponent of abolishing DHS
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:43 AM
Thursday

Just put its component parts back into the departments they were swiped from in the first place. And abolish ICE!

mr715

(3,595 posts)
8. Get rid of DHS.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 11:40 AM
Thursday

Put TSA in Dept of Transportation

Put the Coast Guard in the DoD

Put immigration enforcement into the Dept of State or Justice

Put domestic counter terrorism into the DOJ

Eliminate the DNI and return that role to the CIA administrator.

etc.

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