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babylonsister

(172,763 posts) Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:19 AM Thursday

Trump May Not Turn Over Official Records

What part of "NO KINGS" do these morons not understand?

https://politicalwire.com/2026/04/02/trump-may-not-turn-over-official-records/

Trump May Not Turn Over Official Records
April 2, 2026 at 7:53 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


“President Trump’s Justice Department has concluded that a federal law requiring presidential records to be turned over to the government is unconstitutional,” Axios reports.

“The finding is an indication Trump will be reluctant to give all of his official records to the National Archives at the end of his term, as presidents have done for nearly a half-century under the Presidential Records Act of 1978.”
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Trump May Not Turn Over Official Records (Original Post) babylonsister Thursday OP
I watched Senator Chris Van Hollen yesterday and he asked the anchor malaise Thursday #1
Still waiting for him to show his taxes. Emile Thursday #2
I heard two weeks. JohnnyRingo Thursday #19
This must be the longest audit in IRS history. Norbert Thursday #21
"Who's gonna stop me?" Kid Berwyn Thursday #3
He will soon find out malaise Thursday #5
"So unfair." Kid Berwyn Thursday #6
There will be a Celebration malaise Thursday #7
May not exist. no_hypocrisy Thursday #4
The only thing that can stop him is if he runs out of bathrooms to hide them in ToxMarz Thursday #8
Maybe he'll put them in the new Trump Presidential Libary, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Thursday #9
To quote the abuser in chief ... Yonnie3 Thursday #10
Sounds an awful lot like "we had to destroy the village to save the village"... we've been here before. (n/t) Moostache Thursday #18
Think he misunderstood angrychair Thursday #11
What would you expect from a pig, but a grunt. n/t aggiesal Thursday #12
We are warned. By the hour of inauguration, karynnj Thursday #13
He's Planning to Sell Them - a buck three-eighty per page, I understand. MineralMan Thursday #14
Justice was delayed and thereby has been completely denied to the American people. Scrivener7 Thursday #15
The government will come take them Johonny Thursday #16
Gosh, I wonder why? SergeStorms Thursday #17
What sucks is - even when forced, there will likely be little actual records. Fuckers. themaguffin Thursday #20
No shit? progressoid Thursday #22
He thinks the DOJ are his personal lawyers, there to defend him and attack his enemies. ChicagoTeamster Thursday #23
Yep. DOJ's Civil Rights Division is now investigating Cassidy Hutchison underpants 5 hrs ago #27
They had previously accused her of lying. But why would the Civil Rights division be charging her with that? ChicagoTeamster 5 hrs ago #30
Translation; "I'm planning to steal even more classified documents" struggle4progress Thursday #24
Deadline Legal Blog-Groups warn of risk that Trump 'will keep or destroy' presidential records LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #25
Then no plane or other gifts even if they have to be destroyed to keep them from Trump Historic NY 5 hrs ago #26
Do we need to make an offer for sale? no_hypocrisy 5 hrs ago #28
They aren't his personal records, they belong to the country. Vinca 5 hrs ago #29

malaise

(296,395 posts)
1. I watched Senator Chris Van Hollen yesterday and he asked the anchor
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:32 AM
Thursday

a serious question - who does he think he is?

Lock up this out of control lunatic.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,688 posts)
9. Maybe he'll put them in the new Trump Presidential Libary, ...
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:25 AM
Thursday

... in one of the bathrooms attached to Aileen Cannon's office and apartment suite.

Yonnie3

(19,503 posts)
10. To quote the abuser in chief ...
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:34 AM
Thursday

We'll have to "force ourselves" into the situation because of crime.

"We're gonna have to do something when it comes World Cup time, and we're gonna have to force ourselves upon them, which we have the right to do, because we don't want to have any crime, we don't want to have any problems,"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/california/2026/04/01/trump-says-government-will-have-to-force-ourselves-on-la-world-cup/89424116007/

A saying comes to mind "What goes around comes around."

Moostache

(11,197 posts)
18. Sounds an awful lot like "we had to destroy the village to save the village"... we've been here before. (n/t)
Reply to Yonnie3 (Reply #10)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 11:17 AM
Thursday

angrychair

(12,304 posts)
11. Think he misunderstood
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 09:42 AM
Thursday

We were not asking. He needs a reminder of who is actually in charge here.

karynnj

(60,983 posts)
13. We are warned. By the hour of inauguration,
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:17 AM
Thursday

the archivist should have already had lawyers prepare legal papers to demand everything that should be turned over to them. They should be served as soon as someone else is sworn in.

MineralMan

(151,333 posts)
14. He's Planning to Sell Them - a buck three-eighty per page, I understand.
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:23 AM
Thursday

The trick is that most pages just say, "This Page Is Intentionally Blank."

SergeStorms

(20,605 posts)
17. Gosh, I wonder why?
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 11:16 AM
Thursday

Probably because the level of corruption and lawlessness within his maladministration are off the scale? 🤔

progressoid

(53,209 posts)
22. No shit?
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:56 PM
Thursday

I am shocked! He's never shown a disregard for the law before. And when he does make a little "mistake" he is held to account!

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ChicagoTeamster

(991 posts)
23. He thinks the DOJ are his personal lawyers, there to defend him and attack his enemies.
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:00 PM
Thursday

They're going to be crafting defenses of all his illegal acts (mostly everything he does) because that's what he's going to instruct them to do.

He thinks everything is his. Hence his statements about taking women, taking Kharg Island, his rapist talk.

He didn't just take the documents, he even took artifacts loaned to the US government from other countries that happened to be on display at the white house during his tenure. Ancient Israeli pottery lamps belonging to the Israeli Antiquities Authority, loaned to the White House in 2019 for a Hanukkah event, became stranded at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate aftser he took them upon leaving office.

underpants

(196,627 posts)
27. Yep. DOJ's Civil Rights Division is now investigating Cassidy Hutchison
Reply to ChicagoTeamster (Reply #23)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:00 PM
5 hrs ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143645809

The Justice Department has assigned its civil rights division to investigate Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide who outraged President Trump four years ago after her testimony before Congress implicated him in the violence that erupted at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, according to four people familiar with the matter.

ChicagoTeamster

(991 posts)
30. They had previously accused her of lying. But why would the Civil Rights division be charging her with that?
Reply to underpants (Reply #27)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 05:15 PM
5 hrs ago

Are they the only division that still has attorneys that haven't all resigned?

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,170 posts)
25. Deadline Legal Blog-Groups warn of risk that Trump 'will keep or destroy' presidential records
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:44 PM
5 hrs ago

The Justice Department’s new legal interpretation, if upheld, could give the president the green light to hoard records.

Groups warn of risk that Trump ‘will keep or destroy’ presidential records
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“As of this moment, the Administration believes that the President is legally free to destroy records of his official government conduct, or even spirit away the records for his own future personal use.”

That’s what two nonprofit groups told a federal court in Washington on Monday, in a legal complaint seeking a declaration that the Presidential Records Act is constitutional. The complaint was prompted by a bold new claim to the contrary by the Trump Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel.

The American Historical Association and American Oversight said in their complaint that they filed the lawsuit “to stop the unconstitutional actions of the government, ensure the President and his administration abide by the recordkeeping obligations required by federal law, and to preserve the historical record that belongs to the American people, before it is forever lost.”

American Oversight is one of the groups that is separately suing for the release of former special counsel Jack Smith’s report on his classified documents case against President Donald Trump. The DOJ dropped Trump’s federal criminal cases due to his 2024 election win, but a Trump-appointed judge has still sought to keep Smith’s report secret. ....

On top of seeking a court declaration that the act is constitutional, the groups also want a ruling that the National Archives and Records Administration must comply with the act and must make relevant records publicly available as the act requires. Also among the groups’ requests is that Trump be barred, after his current term is up, “from retaining, destroying, disposing, or otherwise handling Presidential records in a manner not in accordance with” the act, and to turn over all presidential records in his possession to NARA as required by the act.

The government will have an opportunity to respond in court.

This act was passed to stop Nixon from destroying Presidential records. Like Nixon, trump will destroy all records that are not favorable to him.

Historic NY

(40,050 posts)
26. Then no plane or other gifts even if they have to be destroyed to keep them from Trump
Reply to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 04:55 PM
5 hrs ago

on Jan 21 the first order to destroy that 747

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