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Amaryllis

(11,304 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 06:17 PM Wednesday

'1000% Increase' in US Troops refusing to Fight in Iran War / Dissent brewing



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As the Trump administration moves thousands of U.S. service members to the Middle East amid the disastrous US-Israeli war on Iran, remarkable dissent is brewing inside the U.S. military.

Mike Prysner of the Center on Conscience and War joins Prem to discuss the opposition inside the military – as some troops currently on their way to the Middle East seek to refuse fighting.

According to Prysner, command is telling soldiers to prepare for the worst. “They’re saying a ground war is inevitable, like this is happening, you better get ready.”

The media is either loudly banging the war drums, or completely disregarding historic public and military dissent. We at Zeteo are reporting on the war like it is. Please subscribe to support us in our mission to build a media fit for the moment: https://zeteo.com/subscribe
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'1000% Increase' in US Troops refusing to Fight in Iran War / Dissent brewing (Original Post) Amaryllis Wednesday OP
How can they legally refuse to fight? efhmc Wednesday #1
Because Faux pas Wednesday #7
With the draft it was CO status, conscientious objection. littlemissmartypants Wednesday #11
Thanks for the answer. Not easy but doable without being thrown in jail? efhmc Wednesday #16
I can't answer that. They would definitely have to talk to an attorney, one would think. ❤️👋 littlemissmartypants Wednesday #17
They could be court martialed Cerulean Southpaw 20 hrs ago #19
No American should be forced to die for Israel. dalton99a Wednesday #2
Israel didn't start it, even if thet're happy about it NoRethugFriends Wednesday #3
Trump is incapable of an original thought RainCaster Wednesday #4
Netanyahu has wanted moonscape Wednesday #6
US and Israel launched coordinated strikes. They started it together. Amaryllis Wednesday #8
Anyone starting to get a little pissed-off at Israel? nt Exp Wednesday #5
Netanyahu not the people. aeromanKC Wednesday #9
Some of the people. There's a "MAGA" cohort of individuals in the ... littlemissmartypants Wednesday #12
I have serious reservations about blue-wave Wednesday #10
Did you check? Here's a way: littlemissmartypants Wednesday #13
Thanks! blue-wave Wednesday #14
My pleasure, blue-wave. ❤️ 👋 littlemissmartypants Wednesday #15
About damn time. roamer65 Wednesday #18

littlemissmartypants

(33,666 posts)
11. With the draft it was CO status, conscientious objection.
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 09:25 PM
Wednesday

In the current case, with a volunteer force, soldiers have a legal duty to refuse orders that breach international statutes as in war crimes. The only other idea is maybe through administrative discharge.

But I'm not an expert.

littlemissmartypants

(33,666 posts)
17. I can't answer that. They would definitely have to talk to an attorney, one would think. ❤️👋
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 10:36 PM
Wednesday
19. They could be court martialed
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:50 AM
20 hrs ago

They might be dealt with administratively at an article 15 hearing. They might be kicked out. They could be court martialed.

After the fact, maybe lawyers could get some of the actions overturned. Maybe even force the service to give them back pay and allow them back in or get their records corrected for the discharge type. It's happened before with the repeal of DADT and with people who got kicked out for refusing the covid shot.

But the military won't wait around for years while lawyers argue about it and it gets pushed all the way up to the supreme court for a final decision. They'll take action against members who refuse to follow orders.

moonscape

(5,729 posts)
6. Netanyahu has wanted
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 07:16 PM
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to do this for decades but couldn’t without the US. He tried to talk Obama into it. Then T 1st term (sane voices in that admin kept us from it), failed also with Biden - now successful with T 2.0

aeromanKC

(3,893 posts)
9. Netanyahu not the people.
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 08:38 PM
Wednesday

Same as others I am sure around the world who despise Trump but not the American people.

littlemissmartypants

(33,666 posts)
12. Some of the people. There's a "MAGA" cohort of individuals in the ...
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 09:27 PM
Wednesday

country. It's certainly not a monolithic society.

blue-wave

(5,151 posts)
10. I have serious reservations about
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 09:19 PM
Wednesday

the guy who started this media outlet. He is controversial and has had political beliefs all over the map. I don't know what to think about their reporting because of the founders past and present. Here's a clip from Wikipedia:

During a sermon delivered in 2009, Hasan made remarks about "the kuffar, the disbelievers, the atheists who remain deaf and stubborn to the teachings of Islam, the rational message of the Quran". Quoting a verse of the Quran, Hasan used the term "cattle" to describe non-believers and called them "incapable of the intellectual effort it requires to shake off those blind prejudices."[47][48][49] He also included homosexuality in a list of categories which he argued were transgressive of Islam.[48] Quotes from these sermons were first publicized by Peter Hitchens in 2012; in his immediate response, Hasan argued these statements had been "selectively edited".[49]


Ten years later, he did apologize for these comments:

In 2019, Hasan apologized for his comments, which he declared to "deeply regret" now, and called them "dumb offensive ranty stuff".


Wikipedia Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan

But I just don't know. Can we trust this channel or not?
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