i think they consciously message this kind of "left behind" bull shit for the benefit of his evangelicals. the troops have all been told that this is the battle of armageddon.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

claimed that he was 'protected and saved' by God.

My question has always been: Why was God pissed of at the fireman sitting behind him and let him die?

Was his name, if anyone cares.

The grave is empty and Corey is in witness protection!

his version of god was a grown ass orange man in a diaper spewing hate.

"The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways".......................

the Easter Bunny.

It was Satan. The rat bastard is still alive and destroying everything he touches.

with 13 heads in plasticine for church, It was an art piece to behold!

My dermatologist took a piece of whitish growth from my ear early this year; covered it with a tiny piece of bandaid that I removed the second day…it was two and a half weeks before the scab came off! I heal pretty quickly and the specimen was about the size of a pinky finger nail clipping.

Bullet wound my ass!

I guess they don’t read their Bibles.

as long as he gathers the jews in israel.

they think "no one knows the day" means they can speed it up by forcing reality into the prophecy.

Stage an assassination attempt, unify your support during an election. Classic.

and the country isn't flipping out over this

Is he a member of the screen ACTORS guild too ????

Two things, one if your ear is nicked, it does not heal back like nothing happened to it, there is always scarring and it doesn’t grow back.

Next, if someone just shot you and nicked your ear, you wouldn’t then stand up and give a fist bump to the crowd.

And lastly, the blood trail…. That’s not how reality looks, it was too clean down the side of the face, and actually a lot of blood. He had a fake blood capsule already behind the ear and just busted it when he put his hand up. Classic movie stuff.

The healing process is a bit longer also.
There would have been a scab for over a week and then a nice pink scar.

Ten years later their ears are still nicked.

...down on the ground. There were surely enough of them to do so. I doubt TSF would be strong enough to overcome the efforts of 3-4 agents who are likely in very good shape.

If the SS was actually doing their job?

This reminds me of 9-11, when Dubya was not immediately hustled out of classroom (remember the deer in the headlights look on his face when a staffer told him what was going on?), but then stood in front of a school assembly and declared, "We're going to get the folks who did this."

Dubya then said he was returning straight to Washington. What he actually did was fly to Minot AFB in North Dakota

He had the capsule in his mouth.

From an injury to my ear I got as a kid. Forty years later, the nick in my ear from my idiot sister’s antics is very, very visible and I wasn’t even “shot”, I was merely kicked into the side of a metal bed frame.
I didn’t have to wear a maxi pad on my ear for days, but I did have a bunch of stitches.

I am not sure it was staged. but it would not surprise me.

Let me just say this...the gun that was used, you don't "graze" an ear. There would be noticeable scarring.

Anyone looking at photos of his ear can see it, especially if you have seen scarring from cartilage damage up close - as I have.

And gun damage isn't binary (zero damage or total obliteration) There is always an area in which there is a gradation of damage between the zero damage and total obliteration. Not to mention that it is entirely conceivable that a chip from something hit directly which bounced up and hit his ear. Neither scenarios (both of which are far more likely than that a "near miss" was staged in a constantly moving scene) suggest that the threat was not real.

And I've seen it up close.

hit by shrapnel. Bullets are very hot; they also leave gunshot residue behind.

Even Trump isn't dumb enough to go along with a fake assassination attempt. But this is Trump we are talking about.

He is narcissistic enough to take full advantage of it. At the expense of the guy who actually was shot and killed.

But, then, I don’t look at pics of the prez more than a second.

The blood should have been splattered behind his ear. It's true he could have dragged the blood forward onto his cheek with his hand, but there should have been blood in his hair, behind his ear. I never saw any. Did anyone else? Also, was his hand bloody? I don't recall that.

Before the scene was definitively secured.

One would expect them to keep him covered and protected as they quickly drag him from the site without posing for campaign poster photos along the way.


But I admit, now that you’ve given me cause to reflect, that smashing a fake blood capsule with one’s hand would seem likely to leave fake blood on one’s hand.

and watched how long it takes for blood to appear? It's not instantaneous. Wound to ear, huddled down with SS, at which time the blood starts to flow in the direction of gravity (i.e. down his cheek)

…before he was crouching. And you needn’t be rude.

Before he stands up.

And do you seriously believe Trump would subject himself to the personal risk of a shot which misses his brain by millimeters for political gain?

Yes, he is a murderer, a liar, a coward, etc. And would do anything that does not require bravery to maintain control over the US. But connecting his character defects to an incident in which an innocent person lost his life and alleging it was just a stunt (which would require bravery far beyond anything this monster possesses) is a step too far.

I've noticed it's a role you frequently step into and you do so very well.

It's really sad to see this kind of kooky conspiracy nonsense taken seriously around here.

But it's better to speak up when we're engaging in conspiracy nonsense than to let it continue unchecked.

Perhaps you'll next assure us that those pics of Trump with bikini-clad children are photoshopped, too.

Perhaps next you could kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth. I don't know where those words have been.

But that is a neat little rhetorical trick, though, I'll give you that. Suggesting that because I don't subscribe to kooky conspiracy nonsense about the assassination attempt I must therefore necessarily disbelieve the horrific allegations in the Epstein files, even though the two things have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.

I guess there's absolutely nothing extraordinary about claiming that a guy who's a known coward allowed someone to fire live ammunition at his head in public and, in the process, ended up killing an innocent bystander. There's absolutely nothing extraordinary about claiming that the individuals involved in this nefarious plot have all kept mum despite his previous and current administrations leaking like sieves and blabbing to the media constantly.

Yes, that all seems much more reasonable than a minor wound to the ear healing in a few days...

Your assumption that "the individuals involved in this nefarious plot" would have spilled the beans is premature; strong, ongoing evidence exists that his regime is kept mum about the rape allegations against him, notwithstanding this and other administrations leaking like sieves.

As for your "known coward" comment:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221118598#post108

And that's on top of the fact that his blood sprayed in the wrong direction for a wound resulting from a bullet fired toward him from the front.

What follows here is indeed speculation: Trump may have been told that the shooter would use blanks, and that he was to slap a blood capsule to his ear when he heard the shots. I offer no evidence of this; it's admittedly pure speculation that incidentally is not inconsistent with observable events.

The attempted assassination or as you want to believe, staged attempted assassination would be a plot the Trump campaign was involved with.

The other claims that he sexually assaulted children are from a time when there wasn't a campaign so the campaign staff wouldn't be aware because they weren't there. Unless you believe that the campaign staff was providing the kids which there's not even a claim of as far as I know.

You insist that the two are dissimilar, but you are considering the wrong aspects of each.

The Trump/Epstein coverup is happening right now in real time; elements of Trump's DOJ (up to and including Bondi herself) have been shown to be actively covering for him, through questionable redactions, dubious omissions, directly contradictory claims, and straight up stonewalling.

It's not simply a matter of what Trump did years or decades ago; the literal conspiracy to protect him is going on before our eyes. How can it be that none of these people have blabbed, if in your view such leaks are inevitable and certain to be plentiful?

I make no claim about Trump's current staff providing children for him; that is an element of your incorrect focus.

Well, since they weren't present when it happened I think we can dismiss this question with prejudice.

For the record, my understanding is the "blood-spatter analysis is pseudoscience" applies to the methodology of tracing bullet patterns around a scene after the fact, not from observing blood exiting an actual (purported) wound in real time. If that's not the case, then I can happily withdraw that particular objection about Trump's oddly crayola-colored "blood" or its limited quantity issuing from so blood-rich an area.

As for reason? I noted above that numerous unresolved irregularities about. Your posts have done nothing to change that; you've simply recited The Official Story.

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I know it’s not popular in MSM, but most of us around here do it.

exercise the discipline and intelligence necessary to carry out such an elaborate plan and then keep it secret. They are not capable or competent persons.

His actions after the "attempt" show it was fake. Nobody stands up for a fist pump with an artfully arranged flag behind him for a memorial photo which appeared on merchandise within days. No real Secret Service agent would allow him to do it. Contrast that with the Reagan assassination attempt. The SS covered him with their bodies and whisked him into the limo immediately.

You really expect me to believe that Trump, a coward, would put himself in the line of real live bullets (which indisputably killed someone)?

His actions after the attempt show only how stupid he is, in focusing on a photo opportunity - rather than realizing his life was likely still in danger.

In his case, the simplest explanation is the default position of him being an idiot.
In fact, even the fist bump was more likely one of his handlers telling him to do that without checking with Secret Service.
Stupid surrounding stupid.
There is a mountain of evidence that he is a dope. Not much reason to look deeper when stupid explains everything.

The gun could have been left for him on the roof. Security obviously wasn't doing its job.

It seems to have been forgotten what actually happened that day. People died.

Chump has done nothing to warrant any trust.
Just show us the bodies and a credible M.E. autopsy, if there is a body
I retired from the entertainment industry.
These were practical effects. Looks real.

I need proof! That's how much I distrust this country!
Suckers and losers, eh?

Who pretend to be dead? Fake families?

A doctor's name? Drugs and treatment prescribed?

Anything??

That was real fear!

If they promise to only graze your ear?

With a capsule of fake blood—WWE/McMahon style. Haven’t heard much about the would-be-assassin. Yet, we know what color toothbrush Lee Harvey used.

Or did everyone other than Trump know they were going to use real bullets? Or it's a conspiracy theory that relies on a lot of unfounded assumptions.

Somebody left the rifle for him on the roof and he shot in the direction of the victim. SS shot him dead.

Trump voluntarily let someone shoot at him with real bullets or that the Trump team told the shooter and Trump it was going to be live bullets and Trump just went along after he was either nicked in the ear or hit by glass and never fired anybody? That's not a particularly logical theory from everything we know about that collection of nitwits.

My only countering idea is that maybe one or more of his campaign officials dreamed up the "assassination" attempt without telling the dotard. Like some of those clowns would really give a shit if the shooter misfired and took out the target instead of just clipping his external ear.

He's guilty of a lot of things but this isn't one of them. He wouldn't put himself on physical danger for any reason nevermind a publicly stunt. He's a coward.

And he knew that… this why he was “so brave” to wave his fist and push off the secret service so he could get his photo op! That man is THE biggest coward, if anything about that shooting had been real, trump would have been throwing woman and children in front of himself!!!

of the shooting is in danger, including Trump.

Let’s not pretend they were the crack outfit that the US employed for decades. Half of them honestly didn’t look like the knew what to do. They let him put his shoe on as well. It was just a cluster.

just don't know what to look for.

I just look at the images posted here claiming no scarring.

In general, look for an area on the ear that is whiter than the surrounding area. If you drew a rectangle around his right ear, the scarring is at the upper left corner of the triangle.

You remember that right after the shot rang out his Secret Service detail slammed him to the ground. I suspect what REALLY happened was he hit his ear on a corner of the podium base.

But the details as to how he was injured don't change the nature of the incident. Someone was shooting live bullets in his general direction.

My personal experience with cartilage injury - and how the scarring looks - was with my daughter swinging her ear into a sharp corner on the leg of a piano. She later pierced her cartilage - and I've often joked that if I'd known she would pierce her cartilage a couple of decades later I'd have had the doctor stitch it up around an earring.

But since the video shows him reaching up and grabbing his ear, I tend to think the injury occurred while bullets were flying.

The fact that he was allowed to raise his arm. The video shortly after it happened where the media is directed to go to a specific spot to take pictures, the fact that no medical info was given by the hospital (or any real doctor). The fact that all of it was pushed away... and he only mentions during the high profile RNC after it for peak effect, but then never? Really? Him? Never?

This stinks. Something ain't right.

He was treated worse than Lincoln. Someone must have reminded him what happened to Lincoln. Donny can’t stand to be one-upped.

And even though I am not religious, he fits the image of the Anti_Christ to a Tee

but I find it tremendously amusing that the "Christians" don't see that they wear his sign on their foreheads....and that he ticks literally every box in their anti-christ checklist.

I do lean toward it being staged and I have zero doubt that they would sacrifice one of his super fans for a photo-op.

I envy the discipline it would take, but relieved I lack the particular absence of character required for the Statlers and Waldorfs to illustrate such a devoted and consistent concern for his almost perfcet well-being. Washington's a big town. Internet's a big place.

I totally think it was staged because no way would secret service ever let a president who has just been shot at get up and raise his arm like that. It's against every rule and for those that say Trump made them let him up, when it comes to being shot at secret service is suppose take over and keep him down.

The same secret service that had to relieve 11 agents of their duties on a foreign trip with Obama because they were distracted by hiring prostitutes?

They aren't perfect. Usually still more than good enough, but not perfect.

A shut down and reboot, everything is so messed up!

It was an incompetent cluster. He even put his shoe back on. I hope that entire team was fired for the good of our future presidents.

I can remember when DU prided itself on being fact based.

Everyone should remember: Don't be the enemy they want. Don't fall for it.

Too much to ask in this post-fact environment, probably.

But this stuff isn’t far off.

And now ...

Well, seems like there is a lot more to that story than we were originally allowed to see.

Here's what we know about the "assassination attempt":
* a 20 year old maga kid who worked in the kitchen of an old age home was able to outwit the United States Secret Service and breach the security perimeter - by a lot - while carrying a gun bag. He was able to climb up on top of a white building while being dressed all in black, without being stopped.
*Said 20 year old, again dressed all in black, lay on top of the white building long enough for numerous rally attendees to point him out to police. No one did anything about him.
* The secret service knew he was on top of the building for 20 minutes before the shots, but did nothing about him. https://abcnews.com/US/trump-assassination-attempt-investigation-continues-new-details/story?id=112020474
*After the shot, the secret service violated ALL of it's own protocols to allow the target to stand exposed so a photo could be taken. This was before they could possibly have known that the threat was over.
*After the shot, there is video that is widely available of a secret service agent ushering photographers to a spot where the optimal photo could be taken, again before they could possibly have known the threat was over.
*The wound, which required a maxi pad in the first few days, was miraculously healed a week later, leaving no scab and no scar, despite the fact that the recipient is an old man with obvious health problems.
*We have just learned about a Russian plan to stage an identical event to help Orban get elected.

Sorry but all this adds up to make me ask, "What the hell went on there?"

.... let him stand straight up with a raised fist. IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT A SECOND SHOOTER.

In my honest opinion, it was a totally staged event. What happened to the "shooter"?

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It was horrendous and people saw it as that. Now, killing of civilians is acceptable with an entire political party condoning it. Then, many worked hard to cover up the massacre but now it is how America fights its wars.

We are not all that anymore, just thugs and murderers.

Trump once participated in a wrestling performance. Not so sure about a supposedly fake attempt but thousands of jihadist assassins will now be highly motivated to be martyred in service to the elimination of this leader of the Great Satan.

The asshole is evil and knows no bounds. He'd sell one of his kids if he thought he could make a buck or look good doing it.

Wouldn't doubt it for a second!

Or maybe he was miraculously healed by Gawd.

I liked how they staged photo journalists just behind the stage so they could get that staged photo op.

Of course, no pics were offered as evidence. Just a reference to "where to look" if one cares to do their work for them.

Sure. A decrepit almost-80-year-old would heal from a bullet wound with no stitches, no bruising, and (at most) dubious scarring in just three days.


It's clear that some are devoted to the official story.