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Foreign countries havent exactly rushed to answer the American presidents call for assistance. Imagine that.
So to sum up:
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-03-16T13:42:17.264Z
1. Trump alienates/insults allies
2. he launches an unnecessary war with no international legitimacy
3. he declares war âover,â dismisses need for alliesâ help
4. he sees the war go sideways
5. he âdemandsâ allies help us solve a problem he said doesnât exist
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/after-alienating-allies-and-declaring-victory-trump-demands-foreign-help-in-war
The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East, the American president wrote. Thats OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we dont need them any longer But we will remember. We dont need people that join Wars after weve already won!...
After claiming in an NBC News interview that unnamed countries had already committed to helping secure the strait a dubious assertion, given the circumstances and available information the Republican demanded that foreign nations step up and provide the U.S. with the kind of security assistance he recently said was unnecessary.
Trump on Strait of Hormuz: "Really, I'm demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory, because it is their territory ... they should help us. You could make the case that maybe we shouldn't be there at all, because we don't need it. We have a lot of oil."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-03-16T01:05:29.715Z
.....Indeed, the series of events seems preposterous. After spending the last year alienating U.S. allies, Trump launched an unnecessary war with no international legitimacy. He then prematurely declared victory, while simultaneously dismissing the need for international assistance, all while characterizing the Strait of Hormuz as a problem thats already been solved.
It was at this point that the same American president, without explanation, turned on a dime and started demanding assistance from the same countries hes insulted to address a problem hes claimed doesnt exist.
Foreign countries havent exactly rushed to answer Trumps call for help, and Australian and Chinese officials have already rejected U.S. outreach. Imagine that.
Irish_Dem
(81,006 posts)Like the Pacific Islands in WWII.
Solly Mack
(96,853 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,047 posts)The defense secretarys disdain for rules of engagement and the laws of war is apparent. And it could lead to war crimes by Americans and against Americans.
The dangerous significance of Pete Hegsethâs âno quarterâ Iran war pledge -
— Susan Cooper aka Buzzedition (@buzzedition.bsky.social) 2026-03-15T03:45:22.636Z
The defense secretaryâs disdain for rules of engagement and the laws of war is apparent. And it could lead to war crimes â by Americans and against Americans.
www.ms.now/opinion/hegs...
https://www.ms.now/opinion/hegseth-war-crimes-iran-no-quarter
As MS NOWs Julia Jester rightly noted, Fridays comments from Hegseth calling for no quarter stand out for even more implicitly greenlighting the military to violate the broader laws of war as well as the militarys own longstanding rules of engagement:
Orders or threats of no quarter a term used for killing enemies who surrender or are rendered unable to fight have been considered violations of international law since the Hague Convention of 1899, with directions to give no quarter listed as a war crime following World War II. [ ]
And its not just global rules that are being flouted. Not only does the term no quarter violate the Geneva Convention, it defies the U.S. Marine Corps own rules of engagement: Do not engage anyone who has surrendered or is out of battle due to sickness or wounds.
.....That seems unlikely given a new effort from Hegseth to undertake a ruthless overhaul of the militarys judge advocate general corps and their fellow civilian lawyers at the Pentagon. As The Atlantic reported, the concern with this review is that it provides cover for an attempt to reduce the ranks of lawyers, purge internal dissent, and eliminate guardrails designed to restrict the military from carrying out legally dubious orders. And while operations like the sinking of an Iranian warship returning from a multinational training exercise are technically allowed under the laws of war, its hard to say they were fully legal under American law, given the administrations lack of a clear legal rationale for the war effort.
Despite what Hegseth may think, words matter in times of war. Beyond conveying the message of what is gained through fighting, it is only through clear communication that the orders from the top can be carried out by the servicemembers whove sworn an oath to obey them. His refusal to acknowledge that there are times where things other than body count should factor into combat decisions threatens the cohesion and professionalism of the military.
Likewise, its the global commitment to the established laws of war that keeps American civilians safe and untargeted. In rejecting them with his statements, he is incentivizing those who serve under his command to not only discard their humanity but destroy a shield protecting their fellow Americans from having the same standard of maximum lethality carried out against them.
Timewas
(2,730 posts)They have been commiting crimes of some sort almost 24 --7 and no one has or is even trying to do anything about it... It is in the news almost daily...
malaise
(295,482 posts)That is all.
Then the jackass wrote that hell bomb some more places for fun.
These are raving lunatic war criminals
Jack Valentino
(4,910 posts)PCIntern
(28,272 posts)unmercifully torture in ways beyond our comprehension American soldiers. They will simultaneously release a video of this asshole saying that he doesnt give a shit about the Geneva convention.
Hes more into the Vageena Convention (sic) if you get my drift. Dangerous.
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,195 posts)Is the one who should be worrying. The Hague awaits.