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gopiscrap

(24,680 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 03:50 PM 11 hrs ago

When I was 7 years old on a snowy, icy morning I held my mom's hand

as we walked to my fathers new gravesite 3 days before Christmas. I sat there staring at my 38 year old father's flag draped coffin. I cried as I heard taps being played, trembled when the rifles sent out their volleys, and gasped in anguished grief as they lowered my father into the cold earth never to be seen again. It is a searing memory and one that is indelible in a child's mind even as he grows to adulthood.

Why did this happen, my father was shot in Vietnam and and died when he came stateside. He was one of those 58,000 US military victims.

But the one good thing was that his country and president honored him. They accorded him the respect he deserved and affirmed and grieved with his survivors.

I find it completely morally reprehensible and an affront to those families that must go through what I went through, but with the callousness of our leader (and mourner in chief) and his sycophant followers. Never had we had a president who is so unfeeling, so callous and so ignorant of what is required to be a leader. This soulless son of a bitch has no clue what it means to sacrifice, to empathise with another's grief. He will never apologize, he will never recognize their pain. A good start would be to lower the flag at a minimum.

I apologize (on behalf of trump) to those families who are feeling the beginning of this life long grief. This president will never apologize My heart is with you. I can identify with the road you are taking.

And to this administration: Shame on you, not only are you uncaring in a time of this immoral war, but you make the pain of the families who paid the ultimate price harder and with deeper scars!

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When I was 7 years old on a snowy, icy morning I held my mom's hand (Original Post) gopiscrap 11 hrs ago OP
Deepest condolences on your loss SheltieLover 11 hrs ago #1
What an agonizingly vivid picture you paint with your words. 3catwoman3 11 hrs ago #2
Heartbreaking to read this. redwitch 11 hrs ago #3
And there are those who will never comprehend PatSeg 10 hrs ago #4
This is a powerful message, gopiscrap. sheshe2 10 hrs ago #5
So sorry for lives lost and other war destruction. PufPuf23 10 hrs ago #6
I'm so sorry for your loss and pain, gopiscrap. democrank 10 hrs ago #7
I'm so sorry you went through that MustLoveBeagles 10 hrs ago #8
I'm so sorry for your loss, and at such a young age. greatauntoftriplets 10 hrs ago #9
They don't care fujiyamasan 10 hrs ago #10
Well, some around Trmp will acknowledge it's "bad optics" -- Trmp himself will never, ever care. eppur_se_muova 10 hrs ago #11
Our service members who lost their lives for this country were once honored and revered Grim Chieftain 10 hrs ago #12
What a moving post. My mother died of cancer when I was 8 and it's something that never, ever leaves you. Vinca 9 hrs ago #13
my heart is with you gopiscrap 9 hrs ago #20
OMG - you poor thing. I'm so sorry you had so much tragedy so young. Vinca 7 hrs ago #32
My heart is with you. Hope22 9 hrs ago #14
This is a reminder KT2000 9 hrs ago #15
Do you really think I should this to them gopiscrap 9 hrs ago #24
Yes! KT2000 7 hrs ago #33
This reminds me of my dad's funeral. ananda 9 hrs ago #16
my heart is with you gopiscrap 9 hrs ago #17
And mine with you. ananda 9 hrs ago #18
Thank you for this important post, so well expressed Alice Kramden 9 hrs ago #19
Taps is the most heart wrenching composition imaginable,IMHO. BattleRow 9 hrs ago #21
I'm so sorry for the loss of your father wendyb-NC 9 hrs ago #22
Too sad malaise 9 hrs ago #23
Amen. GiqueCee 9 hrs ago #25
I am so sorry - TBF 8 hrs ago #26
This is a very special post. Thank you. hamsterjill 8 hrs ago #27
I am so sorry for your loss. HeartsCanHope 8 hrs ago #28
Your father Clouds Passing 8 hrs ago #29
Beautiful post. mountain grammy 8 hrs ago #30
Many of us will gladly give you the sincerity you still deserve, gopiscrap. calimary 8 hrs ago #31
Here's the reaction to your post Mme. Defarge 6 hrs ago #34
will do that gopiscrap 6 hrs ago #35
I hope you'll let us know Mme. Defarge 6 hrs ago #37
Thank you for sharing your story. yellow dahlia 6 hrs ago #36
And now I'm ugly crying EuterpeThelo 5 hrs ago #38
K&R spanone 5 hrs ago #39
I hope you're watching/watched Lawrence. Mme. Defarge 5 hrs ago #40
Wow! I too was 7 years old when blue-wave 3 hrs ago #41
Thank you. God bless and comfort you. AverageOldGuy 2 hrs ago #42

3catwoman3

(29,182 posts)
2. What an agonizingly vivid picture you paint with your words.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:04 PM
11 hrs ago

The callous insouciance of TSF is beyond infuriating.

I'm so sorry your dad was taken from you so early.

redwitch

(15,255 posts)
3. Heartbreaking to read this.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:06 PM
11 hrs ago

I’m crying for the small child you were when you lost your dad, I can’t imagine the grief. Bless you.

PatSeg

(53,015 posts)
4. And there are those who will never comprehend
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:14 PM
10 hrs ago

your grief or the grief of your mother, certainly no one in this administration. On the other hand, Biden frequently got visibly moved whenever he spoke of our fallen soldiers. His empathy was sincere and heartfelt.

Such a painful memory for one so young.

sheshe2

(97,051 posts)
5. This is a powerful message, gopiscrap.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:18 PM
10 hrs ago

Thank you for your post and condolences many years after the fact to you and your family.

PufPuf23

(9,785 posts)
6. So sorry for lives lost and other war destruction.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:23 PM
10 hrs ago

Warmongers are a blight on our species.

Thank you gopiscrap.

Sad you lost your father so young.

MustLoveBeagles

(15,738 posts)
8. I'm so sorry you went through that
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:30 PM
10 hrs ago

I want to give the little boy you were a hug but I'll give you a virtual one now 🤗. It doesn't matter that we don't support the current war. These fallen soldiers still deserve dignity and respect. Unfortunately we have a so called leader that is incapable of living up to the moment. His reelection is going to be viewed by history as the single biggest mistake American voters have ever made.


fujiyamasan

(1,549 posts)
10. They don't care
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:34 PM
10 hrs ago

They just don’t give a shit.

To them and especially the pedo at the top, those dying are “suckers and losers”.

eppur_se_muova

(41,640 posts)
11. Well, some around Trmp will acknowledge it's "bad optics" -- Trmp himself will never, ever care.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:59 PM
10 hrs ago

Remember -- this is the "suckers and losers" President.

Grim Chieftain

(1,577 posts)
12. Our service members who lost their lives for this country were once honored and revered
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:06 PM
10 hrs ago

as well they should be. As the saying goes, "they gave the last full measure..." I honor them and will do so all my life.

Now, under this evil despot, they are merely chattel.

My heart breaks for you, gopiscrap. I hope someday soon we can again be a nation of which your dad would be proud.

o

Vinca

(53,750 posts)
13. What a moving post. My mother died of cancer when I was 8 and it's something that never, ever leaves you.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:16 PM
9 hrs ago

I'm 77 and I still remember what she looked like in the coffin at the funeral home. What the survivors of the Iran casualties will endure because of the cruelty and incompetence of this administration is immeasurable.

gopiscrap

(24,680 posts)
20. my heart is with you
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:38 PM
9 hrs ago

my mom died of cancer when I was 14, so I have an inkling of what you went through!!! Peace Mike

KT2000

(22,091 posts)
15. This is a reminder
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:19 PM
9 hrs ago

for ALL politicians including our own senators about the cost of war to the families. Please send this to Murray and Cantwell and your rep. They need to read this into the record. What you said was more than words on a page, it was the stab in the heart they need to feel as they go forward in dealing with this monster.
I am sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the work it took for you and your mother to go on.

KT2000

(22,091 posts)
33. Yes!
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:43 PM
7 hrs ago

This war is being played as an abstraction for the American people. They need to wake up and your message would help. I would hope our Democratic politicians would respond. They need to be reminded of the cost of war and make that a big part of the discussion.

ananda

(34,820 posts)
16. This reminds me of my dad's funeral.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:20 PM
9 hrs ago

The Navy came out in their dress whites
and did a gun salute ceremony.

I cried buckets. I had just learned that
he had gotten the Distinguished Flying
Cross for his role in the Battle of Leyte
Gulf.

He never really liked talking about the
war, and none of us kids knew about
the cross.

I did manage to get him to talk about
it more late in his life, and the stories
were just amazing.

I hate to think of the pass we've come
to now with krazy Republikans leading
us to "Armageddon" in the craziest,
stupidest way possible.

BattleRow

(2,236 posts)
21. Taps is the most heart wrenching composition imaginable,IMHO.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:40 PM
9 hrs ago

The inherent sorrow and sense of loss reverberates in every note.

wendyb-NC

(4,661 posts)
22. I'm so sorry for the loss of your father
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 05:40 PM
9 hrs ago

For a 7-year-old that is so sad and heavy. It is a shock to any aged person to have this happen, there is a hole in your heart forever.
The very idea that the leader of this country is starting a war for no clear reason is revolting.

The current administration has a collective trait of being hollow, like big empty barrels: its unabashed soulless nature, devoid of a heart, with no sense of kindness, compassion, and empathy, it's loud like those empty barrels rolling, clattering and bounding down a steep grade to pile up at the bottom, a silent pile of degradation. They are shameful.

TBF

(36,334 posts)
26. I am so sorry -
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:09 PM
8 hrs ago

for your loss, especially trying to make sense of it all at that age. My dad was 17 when he enlisted (1963) - he was injured but he came home to us. I was a baby at that time; my mom had to send a telegram to a naval destroyer to let him know when I was born. I had uncles who served as well. One that comes to mind was an MP over there, and upon return to the states he buried those memories in alcoholism. He died living under a bridge, many years ago.

Trump, the draft dodger, will never understand what military families go through.

hamsterjill

(17,445 posts)
27. This is a very special post. Thank you.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:18 PM
8 hrs ago

For those of us who remember the Viet Nam War, this brings back sad memories. I lived in a small town and I can remember the sheer dread when someone was "called up", and I remember those who made it home and those who did not.

I am sorry for the loss of your father.

You are absolutely right in that the sacrifices were honored. At least. At a minimum. And were deserving of so much more.

Trump is sheer evil in my opinion. Not only do I think he is immune to the pain that he sees others suffering; I think he enjoys it.

The sonofabitch is going to get his due one of these days. I have to believe that.

HeartsCanHope

(1,623 posts)
28. I am so sorry for your loss.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:26 PM
8 hrs ago

I thank your father for his service, and your family for the sacrifices you have made for this country.

Trump is evil incarnate. I hate this man with every fiber of my being!

calimary

(89,686 posts)
31. Many of us will gladly give you the sincerity you still deserve, gopiscrap.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:51 PM
8 hrs ago

And the care and compassion and respect you ALSO still deserve. And hugs.

(((((((( * ))))))))

Mme. Defarge

(8,980 posts)
34. Here's the reaction to your post
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 08:25 PM
6 hrs ago

from a very good friend whose judgment I respect - “it should be (should have been) sent to the NYT with a name and city so no one can say that it's "fake". . .

It's the sort of thing that can galvanize widespread outrage by clearly articulating what everyone is feeling now.

Trump, Hegseth et al. are despicable fools and scoundrels. They should feel our anger.”

yellow dahlia

(5,544 posts)
36. Thank you for sharing your story.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 08:49 PM
6 hrs ago

This regime knows nothing of honor.

I cry for the seven year old you, and for the families of those who were needlessly lost this week, and through many other wars.

EuterpeThelo

(296 posts)
38. And now I'm ugly crying
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 09:39 PM
5 hrs ago

I'm so, so sorry for what you were forced to go through, gopiscrap. And then to see later on in the thread that your mom wasn't far behind...just heartbreaking.

Thank you for baring your soul with this post. Your words carry so much power, imagery and pain.

I wish you never had to endure all this and I wish nobody else did either.

blue-wave

(4,880 posts)
41. Wow! I too was 7 years old when
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 11:35 PM
3 hrs ago

my uncle was killed in Vietnam. Your description of the volleys made me momentarily shiver through my memory of the same. I remember my grandmother being held up under her arms by my father and his surviving brother as she collapsed when presented with the flag, the symbol of my uncle's service and sacrifice. Even now, when I visit their graves, I still remember those volleys.

And yes, shame to those who know not even a sliver of decency and empathy.

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