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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo I just got this email from an in-law:
Subject line: "Glad i left 26 yrs ago"
"What a shit hole, Mn has become. A real shame," with links to racist and false YouTube videos about Somalis.
I haven't spoken to this nasty old bat in those 26 years since she moved to Arkansas, and I don't know why she sent me this crap. She said years ago that she moved to AR to get away from high taxes and black people. What upsets me that this rhymes-with-witch is married to an actual relative with whom I am on good terms, but who seems to be the original source of the YouTube links. My blood pressure went through the roof when I read it and my first impulse to respond with a comment like "I'm glad you left, too," with links to US News and Wallet Hub ranking the states (MN #4 vs. AR #44, https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings, and MN #5 vs. AR #48, https://wallethub.com/edu/best-states-to-live-in/62617), but I suspect that said nasty old bat is trying to stir the pot. I am deeply disappointed in the relative and angry at his nasty old bat wife but life is too short; I know that mine isn't the shit hole state, and my Somali neighbors are better people than she is. I deleted the email.
Norrrm
(4,694 posts)Not very observant, is she?
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)Norrrm
(4,694 posts)Walleye
(44,432 posts)Not by some rando right wing Internet influencer. These gullible people will believe anything.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)were convicted. The ringleader of the fraud scheme is a White woman.
Walleye
(44,432 posts)And if crime is to be blamed on the governor, Greg Abbott has a lot to answer for
CrispyQ
(40,878 posts)Maybe minus the "I'm glad you left, too," comment.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)There's no convincing people like that with actual facts.
Randomthought
(1,047 posts)"Don't wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.
Delete and ignore
Katinfl
(758 posts)UpInArms
(54,702 posts)With them, it is always projection
That is their shithole state, whether where they live or how they think, not yours
pandr32
(14,152 posts)You could sign off with: "I look forward to not hearing from you and your vile nonsense again."
I'll bet most of us (including myself) have at least one relative or old friend who has taken a dark turn so I understand how it affects you. If someone like your two ever have a light bulb turn on in their heads/hearts I'm sure they will reach out to those who once mattered.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)I'm sure she wanted to get a rise out of me and I wasn't going to give her the satisfaction. I'm just deeply disappointed in my relative who was crazy enough to marry her.
irisblue
(37,299 posts)Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)irisblue
(37,299 posts)Just in case your blood relative smartens up?
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)pandr32
(14,152 posts)I hope you have other people who give you lift in your life. We also have this wonderful community.
niyad
(131,543 posts)Dear_Prudence
(1,153 posts)It is possible that your relative was unaware of the depth of her vile views when he married her. Or maybe she has become more vile over the years. Or they have a bond based on her cooking, sports, horse riding, or whatever. My own husband is not hateful, but he is deep into conspiracy crap, so we don't talk politics. He is highly educated, but irritable and not persuadable. Some 46 years ago, I never ssked him "Who shot Kennedy?" Back then, it was most important to me that he loved animals. He still does. So sometimes I share DU pet forum items with him, and he responds positively to those posts. I never ever share other DU content. Maybe your relative is similarly situated. I agree with your non-response to her ugly email. She is trying to stab you with her hat pin, but you have wisely remained out of her reach.
I would have said: Remember What Trump said repeatedly, in 2024: "I LOVE THE UN-EDUCATED"........
blue_jay
(232 posts)Ilsa
(64,206 posts)Katinfl
(758 posts)I had a family member try to engage me in a conversation I had no intention of getting into on FB. He is on the same side politically but then he got into religion (hes an atheist, nothing wrong with that) and said I should be ashamed of my religion. That did it. I did not respond, just let him rant. He took down the thread the next day. No more contact.
BWdem4life
(2,985 posts)even if you know them.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)niyad
(131,543 posts)AverageOldGuy
(3,691 posts)Don't reply. Remove her comment if you can.
When you wrestle with a pig, nothing is solved, you get very dirty, and the pig just loves it.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)flashman13
(2,294 posts)Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)I'm petting a cat to settle my blood pressure.
Quanto Magnus
(1,328 posts)"Awwwww.... Bless your heart!"
Isn't that supposed to be some slight in the eyes of the fascists?
mn9driver
(4,842 posts)We dont communicate unless they are especially riled up by some
nasty right wing, racially tinged agitprop.
There is something about Race that is irresistible to these folks. It shuts down all of their critical thinking.
617Blue
(2,315 posts)Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)You see crap like that and you want to slap them down but you're just feeding a troll. The best fuck you is total silence.
viva la
(4,573 posts)But of course, none of that matters to her.
Clouds Passing
(7,778 posts)Escurumbele
(4,074 posts)I don't think that anymore. What I would have done in that case is to respond how you were planning to "I am glad you left too.", which in a way is polite, not abusive, but it will eat her up, and the best thing later is to delete all her future emails, so she is going to be left with your last comment, and bullies do not like that.
Anyway, one must do what our conscience, our instinct and feelings at the time tell us to do. You are a good person.
mdbl
(8,505 posts)That's why I don't talk to them anymore. I don't want to feel bad all day.
relayerbob
(7,410 posts)I wouldn't put forth the effort for the links, but the "I'm glad you left, too" part .... think I might have l blasted it out. Good self-control.
AltairIV
(1,024 posts)You did the right thing and just deleting it.
Maraya1969
(23,488 posts)these people. They obviously need it.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)She's trolling, and the reason has nothing to do with facts. She wants me to feel defensive. Knowing how she has behaved in the past she just wants me to feel upset and angry. I refuse to engage.
Maraya1969
(23,488 posts)I don't believe that a person who is trying to appear superior will not be affected by news that their state is at the bottom of the barrel. I've watched people be embarrassed by information about the groups they belong to that they think are so superior find out that they are not that at all.
That and why the Hell does the GOP continue to win when there is so much evidence that they are the losers? Because they stick together with their idiocy.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)It's a person who's trying to upset me solely for personal reasons by trolling me with hateful political messages that she knows I would find offensive. I'm sure she knows Arkansas is ranked at the bottom but she doesn't care because she has enough money to live well. I do not feed trolls.
KT2000
(22,091 posts)they hate that, then block her.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,402 posts)Red stares lag behind blue states in nearly all metrics.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/3/4/2371634/-Watch-Tim-Walz-school-the-worst-of-the-worst-GOP-bigots?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_1&pm_medium=web
waterwatcher123
(506 posts)My suggestion would be to find that clip of Walz where he mentions people minding their own dam business and send it without comment. She might have an epiphany that it is the same message many of us used to get from our parents.
I used to work in state government trying to conjure up ways to get people to protect streams, lakes, rivers, and wetlands. It works in MN because we have always had this "we are all in the same boat" ethic due to the harsh weather and settlement patterns. The state works and continues to be successful economically largely because we believe in social capital (the sum is greater than the individual parts). If one looks, you can see evidence of it on the streets of Minneapolis and in the number of cooperatives and nonprofit organizations in the state (much higher than any neighboring state).
OldBaldy1701E
(10,920 posts)If I had done so, it would have been to print the ROFL emoji over and over and over... maybe with the crazy one interspersed here and there for good measure.
But, that would have been all.
debsy
(878 posts)I would always sent fact checks from snopes and the like then got tired of the garbage. I told her (with everyone else who was on her thread) to stop sending me the emails because they were so vile and completely false. The only time Ive spoken to her since was when my husband was visiting her for her 90th and I said hello. That was the extent of the conversation and Im fine with it!😂
HeartsCanHope
(1,623 posts)It's always hard when someone you care about disappoints you. Your response was the correct one,
to not give them the satisfaction they are wanting from causing you pain. Silence is a powerful tool
when dealing with abusers.
They don't deserve you, my friend! Sending you love, light, and
FakeNoose
(41,139 posts)This is someone you have no reason to interact with, and she's trying to provoke a fight for her own amusement. (or maybe worse) Don't fall for this, just let it go.
Maybe even think about changing your email address to something she'll never discover. You're bigger than this. And after all, it could just as easily be some kind of awful spam from rightwing trolls.
Ocelot II
(130,147 posts)but when she still lived in the area she was inexplicably hostile toward me when I did see her. Since she and her husband, my actual relative, moved away, the only communications directly from her have been an annual Christmas email which is always a collection of photos of their travels, humblebragging about her acts of philanthropy, and little right-wing political digs. She's a textbook narcissist. I believe it's her way of trying to make me envy her relative wealth, which I do not. I never write back. I don't initiate communication. If you send someone material you know they are likely to find offensive and insulting, obviously you're intending to offend and insult them. Why she is doing this is still beyond me, but I won't respond and I won't change my email address on account of an elderly troll.
Aussie105
(7,803 posts)Consider it a case of someone whose moral compass and insight have dwindled with advancing age.
It's also a 'do you not agree?' request.
She has probably sent the same to others.
Don't bother answering.
calimary
(89,686 posts)Many friends, supporters, and sympathizers ready to comfort and offer solidarity with you.
Sometimes it can be helpful to keep that in mind. Moral support, and all that.
Aussie105
(7,803 posts)It is a very powerful weapon.
And very flexible in its application.
I use it when my younger relatives get too demanding - about money and getting some for free, mostly.