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Mike Huckabee has suggested that Israel is justified in "taking" much of the Middle East on biblical grounds. Netanyahu has stated that he has dreamed of this war on Iran for 40 years. Israel has now launched an all out war on Lebanon and Lindsay Graham is even suggesting that the US should participate to avenge the marine barracks bombing in 1983 in which 241 marines were killed. And now they are talking about ground troops in Iran. It doesn't look like there's going to be an off-ramp to this man made catastrophe.
underpants
(195,954 posts)I just got up. JFC.
BComplex
(9,852 posts)It's just a self-replicating shit show.
MadameButterfly
(3,964 posts)Psychiatrists predicted he would start wars. They didn't need to know the politics that would arise to excuse it. This is science. It's what malignant narcissists do.
Trump has been obsessed with war in Iran for decades. He predicted Obama would start a war with Iran to get re-elected. Then he said both Hilary and Kamala would start a war in Iran if elected. Everything is projection. This is how he tells us what he would do.
BComplex
(9,852 posts)So in retaliation to the argument in his own messed up brain, he stole the 2024 election with the help of Elon, russia and the billionaires from silicon valley putting their best hackers on it. He and elon both admitted to it.
MadameButterfly
(3,964 posts)There isn't one thing he is accusing others of doing that he isn't getting ready to do
BComplex
(9,852 posts)ONLY the democrats primaries were affected last night.
Blue_Roses
(13,839 posts)And Trump does it all the time. All you have to do to know what he's up to is listen
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113355460
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132167833
There. are more threads from this week if you search.
livetohike
(24,193 posts)and WTF are the War Pigs up to now? Huckabee should suit up and join his fantasy end times war.
johnnyfins
(3,706 posts)the grift.
Dr. T
(600 posts)Black Sabbath, more popular than ever this morning.
WestMichRad
(3,171 posts)
conveyed in the lyrics.
k55f5r
(515 posts)GreenWave
(12,535 posts)niyad
(131,543 posts)that they referenced a number of authors who sit on my own shelves. One that was not referenced is "The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering The Religion Of The Earth" by Barbara Mor and Monica Sjoo.
Would you consider cross-posting this in Women's Rights And Issues, especially as this is Women's Herstory Month? Thanks in advance.
OGBuzz
(200 posts)niyad
(131,543 posts)feminist nightmare would be that we finally had a woman president and vp. . only they would be phyllis schlafly and anita bryant (told you it was years ago!).
OGBuzz
(200 posts)niyad
(131,543 posts)have included some real nigtmares.
DBoon
(24,880 posts)BattleRow
(2,236 posts)with a vagina..
Couldnt endure or abide either of them..then or now.
Had the unfortunate experience of chancing upon a clip of Bryant very recently,and my visceral reaction to her was as repellant as it was when she was hawking Florida orange juice back in the day.
Ilikepurple
(562 posts)wnylib
(25,641 posts)a lot of harm to women.
To put goddess worship in perspective, though, goddess worship does not always mean beneficial or benign social norms.
Ancient societies with fertility goddesses flourished all around the Mediterranean in agricultural societies. The fertility ceremonies included human sacrifices and in some cases, eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the sacrificial victims, as well as ceremonial sprinkling of the blood on fields to ensure crop fertility.
Roman and Greek societies had pantheons of both gods and goddesses but women had limited rights. India has goddesses as well well as gods, but women experience practices like child marriage and honor killings for "inappropriate" behavior. Rape is a serious problem in India.
Having goddess worship does not ensure a safe, egalitarian environment for women.
Christianity insists that, as a monotheistic religion, it does not worship Mary, mother of Jesus, as a goddess. Yet, she is depicted as the Queen of Heaven who miraculously mated with God to produce a divine son, and remained a perpetual virgin capable of intercession with her divine son on behalf of human beings. Her obedience to God, and to the divine purpose of childbirth are held in high esteem as examples of virtuous behavior for women. So having a "nearly divine" woman in Christianity still produced patriarchal societies.
Aa a woman, I am fully in support of equal rights. As an American and a Dem, I fully support the right of religious freedom to follow one's beliefs, or to have none. But, as someone who minored in anthropology, I also know that goddess worship is not always beneficial to women and society.
Baitball Blogger
(52,111 posts)still wants more. Sick, sick, sick.
GiqueCee
(3,868 posts)... lower than snake shit in a tire track, and comes in a distant second to slime mold on the scale that measures value to humanity.
It should also be noted that the Mossad knew about the '83 attack on the Marines in advance, but said nothing, other than it wasn't their job to baby-sit the Americans.
niyad
(131,543 posts)to do with anything?
Baitball Blogger
(52,111 posts)There are several reasons why that word is appropriate. First, it was a girl's school. And very young girls. The school was even described as a Kindergarten school. To emphasize that fact, virgens suggests innocence in its purest form.
Also the word should hit between the eyes of even white conservative men, since they can relate to the loss since the feeling of paternal protection is the strongest with their daughters.
And do you think I'm slighting boys? Well, I don't think the impact would be felt as strong with the white conservatives who will quickly rationalize the loss if it was young boys, since they grow up to be soldiers. That's how they would see it.

ProudMNDemocrat
(20,802 posts)I guess you know the rest of the story and it does not end well.
Tetrachloride
(9,558 posts)huckleberry
NoMoreRepugs
(11,958 posts)they can authorize more BILLIONS to Israel.
Lonestarblue
(13,417 posts)Israel is using its military to push further into Lebanon and take more of their land. I've read that Lebanon now has a better government that wants to rebuild the country instead of fighting Israel, but Netanyahu never misses an opportunity to push his violence instead of negotiating a peace deal. Israel has also being invading Syria and taking land there even though the new Syrian government has not attacked them and has said they have no interest in doing so. Netanyahu seems to want to destabilize this new government and perhaps cause it to fail, resulting in an opportunity to grab larger areas of land in the ensuring chaos. Netanyahu is greedy to take all the land surrounding Israel he can get away with. And now with the US fighting his war on Iran for him, he's free to pursue land grabs elsewhere. I would not be surprised to see the IDF eventually attack Jordan. Middle Eastern leaders are rightfully wary of Iran, but they have a hugely destabilizing influence in this Israeli government.
Submariner
(13,332 posts)if Graham want's to avenge the 241 Marines and Sailors killed in Lebanon, and burn Reagan's remains.
Raygun was responsible for ordering that the Marines carry unloaded weapons without access to ammunition, so when the truck bomber was bearing down on the building housing the guards on watch had no weapons to stop the truck.
And the Grenada wag the dog invasion was kicked off 3 days later.
Easterncedar
(6,038 posts)progressoid
(53,025 posts)debm55
(59,311 posts)kentuck
(115,356 posts)Or present-day Iran?
BidenRocks
(3,118 posts)Ask Huckelberry to 'splain how god made that happen.
I wonder what Allah and the rest of the gods were doing as this god was giving away their lands?
Ping Tung
(4,349 posts)KS Toronado
(23,673 posts)Exactly where this is headed unless R Congress Critters suddenly grow a backbone.
democrank
(12,500 posts)Netanyahu gets assistance bombing Iran and Trump gets a sweet real estate deal in Gaza.
wiggs
(8,762 posts)Nigrum Cattus
(1,273 posts)This 100% project 2025
They wrote it down
White "christian" nationalists
Project 2025 claimed the Iran nuclear deal gave Iran a crucial monetary lifeline. Unfortunately,
the Obama and Biden Administrations have propped up the brutal Islamist theocracy that has hurt the
Iranian people and threatened nuclear war. For example, the Obama Administrations 2015 Joint
Comprehensive Plan of Action, commonly referred to as the Iran nuclear deal, gave the Islamic regime a
crucial monetary lifeline after the Green Movement protests in 2009, which, while ultimately unsuccessful,
did succeed in weakening the regime and showing the world that younger Iranians want freedom.
[Department of State, Project 2025, accessed 6/24/24]
Project 2025 argued it was in the U.S.s and the Iranian peoples best interest to have a democratic
government, and the U.S. could use economic and diplomatic tools to help Iran become free. The
next Administration should neither preserve nor repeat the mistakes of the Obama and Biden
Administrations. The correct future policy for Iran is one that acknowledges that it is in U.S. national
security interests, the Iranian peoples human rights interests, and a broader global interest in peace and
stability for the Iranian people to have the democratic government they demand. This decision to be free
of the countrys abusive leaders must of course be made by the Iranian people, but the United States can
utilize its own and others economic and diplomatic tools to ease the path toward a free Iran and a
renewed relationship with the Iranian people. [Department of State, Project 2025, accessed 6/24/24]
Project 2025 called for broadly blocking Iranian ambitions which includes expanding Trump
administration-imposed sanctions. l First, the U.S. must prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear
technology and delivery capabilities and more broadly block Iranian ambitions. This means, inter alia,
reinstituting and expanding Trump Administration sanctions; providing security assistance for regional
partners; supporting, through public diplomacy and otherwise, freedom-seeking Iranian people in their
revolt against the mullahs; and ensuring Israel has both the military means and the political support and
flexibility to take what it deems to be appropriate measures to defend itself against the Iranian regime and
its regional proxies Hamas, Hezbollah, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. [Department of State, Project
2025, accessed 6/24/24]
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walkingman
(10,684 posts)vapor2
(4,313 posts)Johonny
(25,972 posts)And spend forever complaining about it. Or does he have a different version of the Bible?
Clouds Passing
(7,778 posts)NEOH
(287 posts)OGBuzz
(200 posts)vapor2
(4,313 posts)OGBuzz
(200 posts)For End Timers it's to do with Armageddon, the final battle between good and evil which will be fought in the Middle East, so the current global events fit the framework. It may even be spreading into the military.
here is a quote from a recent Guardian article:
"US military commanders have been invoking extremist Christian rhetoric about biblical end times to justify involvement in the Iran war to troops, according to complaints made to a watchdog group."
GoodRaisin
(10,851 posts)are going to fight a holy war to take land for Israel?
erronis
(23,478 posts)Doubt any non-filthy-rich Jews will be allowed in the new xian 4th Reich.
erronis
(23,478 posts)From what I vaguely remember of history, the Crusades were a way for the rulers of the European fiefdoms to rid themselves of a lot of young discontented men. Give them a cause, some weaponry, and promises of more virgins than the heathen, and send them off --- to never return.
Tim S
(176 posts)Why 1996? Thats the year the project A Clean Break that he commissioned issued their plan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break%3A_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
https://the307.substack.com/p/how-regime-change-in-iran-is-the
One year later, the NeoCons published their Project for the New American Century. It fits in well with Netanyahus Clean Break (almost like it was designed to)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
These have been out in the open for decades. Its just that the MSM let us down by ignoring these plans (for whatever reasons you want to suppose I dont know). Its just so frustrating.
quakerboy
(14,815 posts)A quick bombing run will not provide enough distraction from Epsteins trump problem, nor will it suffice as grounds to fuck around with the midterm elections.
I expect more to follow. and a big push for a falling in line and end of more norms, rules, and supposed commitments to the constitution.