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Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 14mDemocrats now say Republicans have established a precedent when it comes to Congress' ability to subpoena and haul in past presidents and family members under threat of criminal charges thanks to how Republicans threatened the Clintons and they plan to use it against Trump.
"We are absolutely going to have Donald Trump testify under oath."
After Republicans push Clintons to testify on Epstein, Democrats warn they'll haul in Trump
Democrats say Republicans have set a precedent with subpoenas of an ex-president and first lady. "We will follow it ... Donald Trump, all of his kids. Everybody," Rep. Maxwell Frost said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-push-clintons-testify-epstein-democrats-warn-haul-trump-rcna257275
H2O Man
(78,855 posts)I think the Clintons played the republicans on this. I've long believed that one should always be mighty careful who they pick a fight with. The republicans have made a serious error here, and will pay a price.
MagickMuffin
(18,201 posts)Comer a farmer. He is ignorant of Constitutional Law. Same thing goes for Jim Jordan.
FadedMullet
(779 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(14,066 posts)That dubious honor goes to Tommy Tuberville, the fool "representing" Alabama while living in FloriDUH. Just above him are Ron Johnson and Marsha Blackburn. I leave out Chuck Grassley because he's obviously got dementia. Gym Jordan is right down there too.
Comer may be the dumbest committee chair, I'll give him that anyway.
returnee
(866 posts)Herschel Walker.
Jilly_in_VA
(14,066 posts)Tuberville and Johnson prayed so hard for him to win. It would have moved them up a notch.
Redleg
(6,866 posts)I wish he represented my district in KY so I could vote against him. Instead I have Thomas Massie as my rep.
Ol Janx Spirit
(821 posts)He certainly saw it in everything Hunter Biden ever did didn't he?
He knows full well, and he cheers it on.
The dumbest part is in thinking it is okay to cheerlead and provide cover for all of the blatant wrong-doing as if it will not destroy the America that has allowed an idiot like himself to succeed.
Comer Pyle will go down in history as a major player in burning democracy to the ground unless Democrats can thread the needle on winning elections and beating back the ensuing violent insurrections.... It really feels like that is where we stand.
Redleg
(6,866 posts)"The Biden Crime Family" was his concern, not the overt corruption DJT. Likewise he appears concerned about the relationships between the Clintons and Epstein but mute on that between Trump and Epstein.
Ol Janx Spirit
(821 posts)...to only look in one direction to see any wrongdoing or even impropriety.
It is astounding that this now extends to sexual assault, falsifying business records, hush-money payments, and an impossible-to-ignore longtime "friendship" with a person running a child-sex ring--in addition to all of the more run-of-the-mill corruption in plain sight.
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"
You'd think these "Christians" would actually take lines like that to heart, but that would require having one....
iluvtennis
(21,480 posts)Jim Jordan earned a Juris Doctor (J.D.) law degree from Capital University Law School in Columbus, Ohio. While he holds this degree, which he earned in 2001, he never took the bar exam and is not a practicing attorney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jordan
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The Clintons may be older now, but both are very astute lawyers - the lying MAGAts are no match for them.
ToxMarz
(2,794 posts)Children often don't understand consequences because their brains are still developing, lacking the mature prefrontal cortex needed for impulse control, long-term planning, and risk assessment. Younger children, especially under age 3, cannot connect past actions to present outcomes, often living in the immediate moment. Furthermore, when children are dysregulated, stressed, or in "survival mode," their brain cannot process logic or lessons, rendering traditional consequences ineffective.
ananda
(34,581 posts)with no impulse control and a mean streak
a mile wide.
H2O Man
(78,855 posts)I'll take it a step further -- there is no area of law that they know better than the Clintons. None. They are wasy over their heads. I know that republicans on the committee are in close contact with the DOJ on this and related matters. But the DOJ maga are not in the Clintons' league. They really just aren't.
The Roux Comes First
(2,212 posts)spanone
(141,204 posts)Either one of the Clintons is a hundred times smarter than the combined sum of every republican in the House. When I first heard the committee was calling them, I thought it was a terrible mistake on their part. Of course, I find their terrible mistakes to be a very good thing.
MadameButterfly
(3,860 posts)to the Trump presidency?
GreenWave
(12,458 posts)leftstreet
(39,461 posts)@JakeSherman
18h
"I think it's a shame," Trump says, of the House bringing Bill and Hillary Clinton into testify.
"I always liked him," Trump says of Bill Clinton.
"She's a very capable woman," Trump on Hillary Clinton.
"I hate to see it in many ways," Trump says.
Link to tweet
?s=20
Sure changing his tune
DURec
travelingthrulife
(4,799 posts)SergeStorms
(20,192 posts)run by "the worst of the worst."
Yeah, Trump's "opinions" depend solely on the last person he talked to.
UpInArms
(54,412 posts)And why is jacketoff jim Jordan even still a congressman?
calimary
(89,279 posts)Its deviously perfect!
Is that an UpInArms Original?
SergeStorms
(20,192 posts)has been used for years now. I'm surprised you missed it, calimary. You're pretty plugged-in to DU.
calimary
(89,279 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,694 posts)and NOTHING would be done.
Precedent? How naive.
ScratchCat
(2,701 posts)James Comer solicited two Republican-leaning law firms who both told him that the courts would not uphold the committees subpoena against the Clintons for multiple reasons.
If a future Democrat-controlled house tries this in 2029 - assuming Donald Trump is even alive then - the courts will just tell the House what they would have told Comer.
Donald Trump will never sit in front of Congress under oath.
Jilly_in_VA
(14,066 posts)A few current sitting justices will either be dead, retired, or better yet, impeached. Looking at YOU, Thomas and Alito!
LiberalArkie
(19,466 posts)And nothing will happen to him.
aeromanKC
(3,850 posts)But the family will!!
gfarber
(228 posts)There once was a hearing so rough,
Where Congress cried, Enough is enough!
You dragged Bill through the mud,
So well return the good thud
Now Trump gets the cuffs and the huff.
The GOP smirked with delight,
Hauling Clintons in late every night.
But the Dems just laughed back,
Said, You scratched a big crack
Now its our turn to give you a bite.
Said Frost with a leer and a grin,
You opened the doorlet us in.
If you like it real raw,
With subpoenas and law,
Well call Don and the kids and the kin.
When Epstein got waved like a flag,
The whole damn thing started to sag.
You wanted the past? Just
Hope youre readybecause
Were subpoenaing everything you brag.
Therell be oaths, said the Dems, nice and tight,
No wiggle, no dodging, no flight.
You set the damn bed,
Now lie in it, they said,
And well watch while you squirm in the light.
So beware when you threaten with glee,
To drag ghosts in for all eyes to see:
If you tug on that thread,
Soon its your ass instead
Getting hauled in by precedentwhee!
calimary
(89,279 posts)Bravo!!!
Bev54
(13,317 posts)testifies. This is completely empty threat for him but not for his kids, which you will see moving to the UAE when he is out of power. They will be investigated as will those who carried out his orders.
Edit to add: he will likely provide everyone in his admin pardons before he goes either way, if it hasn't already been done.
C_U_L8R
(49,105 posts)It's doubtful they'd do any better at checkers.
How about a nice game of Go Fish.
lastlib
(27,769 posts)On a good day, they can count to three without using fingers.
malaise
(294,056 posts)Rec
Grokenstein
(6,297 posts)"I know how to clear a room."
mr715
(3,217 posts)I know President Clinton and Secretary Clinton are going to run circles around Comer et al.
The GOP in Congress have no idea the forces they are meddling with.
For one, Sec. Clinton isn't even in the files, so it is blatantly a "witch hunt" on its face. Additionally, the Clintons are not political aspirants and need to be neutralized. They are, at best, elder statespeople. At worst, they have no influence on electoral politics anymore.
yorkster
(3,720 posts)dlk
(13,169 posts)The hypocrisy is epic.
GiqueCee
(3,606 posts)... you blithering idiot, it is rumored that there are telephone poles smarter than you. Careful what you wish for, dumbass.
stage left
(3,232 posts)Gomer.
GiqueCee
(3,606 posts)... if it was! He's dumber than a bag of hammers.
intheflow
(30,069 posts)The only way Republicans will ever honor a Congressional subpoenas again is if they are already locked up and forced to comply by the bailiff. The Dems really screwed their own pooch by not hold Gym Jordan in contempt over his J6 subpoenas. Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot!
progressoid
(52,788 posts)Response to bigtree (Original post)
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progressoid
(52,788 posts)just because the Clintons agreed to it?
On what fucking planet is this going to happen?
Renew Deal
(84,760 posts)Kid Berwyn
(23,612 posts)He cant hide in Prince Bonesaws sweatpants for ever.
2naSalit
(100,877 posts)They will likely be regretting it a few minutes in because both of them have, individually, more intellect than the entire republican caucus on a bad day. It will be a two batch popcorn day for sure.
returnee
(866 posts)About which I have little faith.
swong19104
(591 posts)hes still alive when the Dems take over. But all others, including Gym Jordan, will have to be escorted into the chamber by armed guards if they dont voluntarily comply.
3Hotdogs
(15,133 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,854 posts)graycampervan
(38 posts)I hope Bill spills the beans on trump.
chicoescuela
(2,791 posts)I hope Im wrong but he has skated through everything in life.
From pedophile to getting caught on tape talking about grabbing pussy. No one ever in the course of humanity has an individual escaped consequences. Maybe after 80 years it will happen?
Figarosmom
(10,354 posts)But the kids are fsir game.
ecstatic
(35,032 posts)the Lewinsky situation?
oldmanlynn
(793 posts)Theres no way Republicans will hold up to their word.
iemanja
(57,582 posts)Its in their DNA.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,512 posts)Trump is not well
augyboston
(379 posts)KY Rep James Comer is a fucking idiot and this proves it!
He and his cohorts on the House Oversight and Accountability committee have opened the door and the Democrats can't wait to pass through it.
What a complete moron!
AverageOldGuy
(3,536 posts)Trump is both the CURRENT SERVING President as well as being a FORMER President.
So subpoena FORMER President Trump.