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bigtree

(93,698 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:09 PM 22 hrs ago

Republicans cooked their own goose with the Clintons testifying

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 14m
Democrats now say Republicans have established a precedent when it comes to Congress' ability to subpoena and haul in past presidents and family members under threat of criminal charges — thanks to how Republicans threatened the Clintons — and they plan to use it against Trump.

"We are absolutely going to have Donald Trump testify under oath."



After Republicans push Clintons to testify on Epstein, Democrats warn they'll haul in Trump
Democrats say Republicans have set a precedent with subpoenas of an ex-president and first lady. "We will follow it ... Donald Trump, all of his kids. Everybody," Rep. Maxwell Frost said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-push-clintons-testify-epstein-democrats-warn-haul-trump-rcna257275
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Republicans cooked their own goose with the Clintons testifying (Original Post) bigtree 22 hrs ago OP
Recommended. H2O Man 22 hrs ago #1
Constitutional Law isn't their strong suit, but it is ours MagickMuffin 22 hrs ago #8
Comer may be the dumbest Repub in Congress, and that's really saying something. FadedMullet 21 hrs ago #17
Not by far Jilly_in_VA 20 hrs ago #28
Well, it coulda been... returnee 18 hrs ago #43
That's why Jilly_in_VA 4 hrs ago #59
Comer is dumb and also willfully ignorant about Trump's blatant wrong-doing Redleg 20 hrs ago #35
He's dumb alright, but he's hardly willfully ignorant about the wrongdoing.... Ol Janx Spirit 3 hrs ago #60
This is what I meant Redleg 2 hrs ago #62
It is truly amazing how pretty much every Repukelicon has adapted the ability... Ol Janx Spirit 2 hrs ago #63
Jim Jordan never passed the bar exam. iluvtennis 21 hrs ago #21
They can't see past the next 5 minutes ToxMarz 20 hrs ago #30
I always think Trump as a demented toddler ... ananda 20 hrs ago #32
Exactly. H2O Man 20 hrs ago #41
Or Plain Ignorant, Actually The Roux Comes First 18 hrs ago #45
Don't tell them that Bill was more popular after the kerfuffle spanone 20 hrs ago #39
Right! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #40
Can I presume Bill has immunity or does that only apply MadameButterfly 44 min ago #64
But delay, Tom Delay, kick the can SCROTUS... GreenWave 22 hrs ago #2
LOCK HER U...no wait! leftstreet 22 hrs ago #3
Tomorrow he will be ranting that Bill and Hillary ran a horrific child torture center. travelingthrulife 20 hrs ago #33
Out of a Mexican restaurant..... SergeStorms 20 hrs ago #36
Well done UpInArms 22 hrs ago #4
I like that! "Jacketoff Jim Jordan". calimary 20 hrs ago #31
"Jim Jacketoff"..... SergeStorms 20 hrs ago #37
Shows you how important I thought he was. calimary 20 hrs ago #38
republicons would still refuse to show up RandiFan1290 22 hrs ago #5
I don't think so ScratchCat 22 hrs ago #6
With any luck whatsoever Jilly_in_VA 20 hrs ago #29
Why wouldn't Trump appear. He will lie like all his appointees LiberalArkie 9 hrs ago #57
And family (I don't think Trump's going to make it to be an ex president) aeromanKC 22 hrs ago #7
Clinton Precedent gfarber 22 hrs ago #9
Another winner, gfarber! calimary 12 hrs ago #53
It will never happen, he will either be dead or in a mental facility before he ever Bev54 22 hrs ago #10
Not very good chess players C_U_L8R 22 hrs ago #11
Tic-tac-toe is the limit of their mental faculties..... lastlib 21 hrs ago #15
Ding ding malaise 22 hrs ago #12
king piggy: "I'm not worried..." Grokenstein 22 hrs ago #13
Yup yup yup. mr715 22 hrs ago #14
Let us "prey"...go to it Hil and Bill. yorkster 21 hrs ago #16
And how many years has Jim Jordan thumbed his nose at his congressional subpoena? dlk 21 hrs ago #18
Comer... GiqueCee 21 hrs ago #19
Do you suppose his name is really stage left 21 hrs ago #26
I wouldn't be surprised... GiqueCee 20 hrs ago #27
Bullshit. intheflow 21 hrs ago #20
Exactly. This. n/t progressoid 21 hrs ago #22
Post removed Post removed 21 hrs ago #23
Wait wait wait. So a family of known law breakers is suddenly going to agree to appear from a subpoena that has no teeth progressoid 21 hrs ago #24
Republicans are counting on him being 80+ Renew Deal 21 hrs ago #25
Don't forget Jared. Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #34
That being said... 2naSalit 19 hrs ago #42
Assuming we have fair elections. returnee 18 hrs ago #44
... if swong19104 17 hrs ago #46
Problem is - will Anal Fistula even be alive when he is an ex president? 3Hotdogs 16 hrs ago #47
The rest of the trump crime family will be. n/t tinymontgomery 14 hrs ago #49
Clinton's Precedent graycampervan 16 hrs ago #48
As much as I tend to agree with this, I don't see tsf ever testifying in Congress. Ever chicoescuela 13 hrs ago #50
He 'll be long dead. Figarosmom 13 hrs ago #51
Wasn't the precedent already set with Clinton following ecstatic 13 hrs ago #52
Democrats are getting played again oldmanlynn 12 hrs ago #54
Republicans don't care about looking hypocritical iemanja 12 hrs ago #55
I fear/hope that trump will not make it to the end of this term LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago #56
Kentucky Representative James Comer is... augyboston 5 hrs ago #58
And remember: AverageOldGuy 3 hrs ago #61
I can already hear it. The Democrats issue a subpoena to Trump, Trump says NO. Democrats say ok fine. LiberalArkie 39 min ago #65

H2O Man

(78,855 posts)
1. Recommended.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:12 PM
22 hrs ago

I think the Clintons played the republicans on this. I've long believed that one should always be mighty careful who they pick a fight with. The republicans have made a serious error here, and will pay a price.

MagickMuffin

(18,201 posts)
8. Constitutional Law isn't their strong suit, but it is ours
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:26 PM
22 hrs ago


Comer a farmer. He is ignorant of Constitutional Law. Same thing goes for Jim Jordan.


Jilly_in_VA

(14,066 posts)
28. Not by far
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:07 PM
20 hrs ago

That dubious honor goes to Tommy Tuberville, the fool "representing" Alabama while living in FloriDUH. Just above him are Ron Johnson and Marsha Blackburn. I leave out Chuck Grassley because he's obviously got dementia. Gym Jordan is right down there too.
Comer may be the dumbest committee chair, I'll give him that anyway.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,066 posts)
59. That's why
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:00 AM
4 hrs ago

Tuberville and Johnson prayed so hard for him to win. It would have moved them up a notch.

Redleg

(6,866 posts)
35. Comer is dumb and also willfully ignorant about Trump's blatant wrong-doing
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:32 PM
20 hrs ago

I wish he represented my district in KY so I could vote against him. Instead I have Thomas Massie as my rep.

Ol Janx Spirit

(821 posts)
60. He's dumb alright, but he's hardly willfully ignorant about the wrongdoing....
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:59 AM
3 hrs ago

He certainly saw it in everything Hunter Biden ever did didn't he?

He knows full well, and he cheers it on.

The dumbest part is in thinking it is okay to cheerlead and provide cover for all of the blatant wrong-doing as if it will not destroy the America that has allowed an idiot like himself to succeed.

Comer Pyle will go down in history as a major player in burning democracy to the ground unless Democrats can thread the needle on winning elections and beating back the ensuing violent insurrections.... It really feels like that is where we stand.

Redleg

(6,866 posts)
62. This is what I meant
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:15 AM
2 hrs ago

"The Biden Crime Family" was his concern, not the overt corruption DJT. Likewise he appears concerned about the relationships between the Clintons and Epstein but mute on that between Trump and Epstein.

Ol Janx Spirit

(821 posts)
63. It is truly amazing how pretty much every Repukelicon has adapted the ability...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:49 AM
2 hrs ago

...to only look in one direction to see any wrongdoing or even impropriety.

It is astounding that this now extends to sexual assault, falsifying business records, hush-money payments, and an impossible-to-ignore longtime "friendship" with a person running a child-sex ring--in addition to all of the more run-of-the-mill corruption in plain sight.

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

You'd think these "Christians" would actually take lines like that to heart, but that would require having one....

iluvtennis

(21,480 posts)
21. Jim Jordan never passed the bar exam.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:34 PM
21 hrs ago

Jim Jordan earned a Juris Doctor (J.D.) law degree from Capital University Law School in Columbus, Ohio. While he holds this degree, which he earned in 2001, he never took the bar exam and is not a practicing attorney. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jordan

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The Clintons may be older now, but both are very astute lawyers - the lying MAGAts are no match for them.

ToxMarz

(2,794 posts)
30. They can't see past the next 5 minutes
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:16 PM
20 hrs ago
Children often don't understand consequences because their brains are still developing, lacking the mature prefrontal cortex needed for impulse control, long-term planning, and risk assessment. Younger children, especially under age 3, cannot connect past actions to present outcomes, often living in the immediate moment. Furthermore, when children are dysregulated, stressed, or in "survival mode," their brain cannot process logic or lessons, rendering traditional consequences ineffective.

ananda

(34,581 posts)
32. I always think Trump as a demented toddler ...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:26 PM
20 hrs ago

with no impulse control and a mean streak
a mile wide.

H2O Man

(78,855 posts)
41. Exactly.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:59 PM
20 hrs ago

I'll take it a step further -- there is no area of law that they know better than the Clintons. None. They are wasy over their heads. I know that republicans on the committee are in close contact with the DOJ on this and related matters. But the DOJ maga are not in the Clintons' league. They really just aren't.

H2O Man

(78,855 posts)
40. Right!
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:56 PM
20 hrs ago

Either one of the Clintons is a hundred times smarter than the combined sum of every republican in the House. When I first heard the committee was calling them, I thought it was a terrible mistake on their part. Of course, I find their terrible mistakes to be a very good thing.

leftstreet

(39,461 posts)
3. LOCK HER U...no wait!
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:15 PM
22 hrs ago
Jake Sherman
@JakeSherman
18h
"I think it's a shame," Trump says, of the House bringing Bill and Hillary Clinton into testify.

"I always liked him," Trump says of Bill Clinton.

"She's a very capable woman," Trump on Hillary Clinton.

"I hate to see it in many ways," Trump says.



?s=20



Sure changing his tune
DURec

SergeStorms

(20,192 posts)
36. Out of a Mexican restaurant.....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:36 PM
20 hrs ago

run by "the worst of the worst."

Yeah, Trump's "opinions" depend solely on the last person he talked to.

calimary

(89,279 posts)
31. I like that! "Jacketoff Jim Jordan".
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:17 PM
20 hrs ago

It’s deviously perfect!

Is that an “ UpInArms Original”?

SergeStorms

(20,192 posts)
37. "Jim Jacketoff".....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:40 PM
20 hrs ago

has been used for years now. I'm surprised you missed it, calimary. You're pretty plugged-in to DU.

ScratchCat

(2,701 posts)
6. I don't think so
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:20 PM
22 hrs ago

James Comer solicited two Republican-leaning law firms who both told him that the courts would not uphold the committees subpoena against the Clintons for multiple reasons.

If a future Democrat-controlled house tries this in 2029 - assuming Donald Trump is even alive then - the courts will just tell the House what they would have told Comer.

Donald Trump will never sit in front of Congress under oath.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,066 posts)
29. With any luck whatsoever
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:09 PM
20 hrs ago

A few current sitting justices will either be dead, retired, or better yet, impeached. Looking at YOU, Thomas and Alito!

LiberalArkie

(19,466 posts)
57. Why wouldn't Trump appear. He will lie like all his appointees
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:42 AM
9 hrs ago

And nothing will happen to him.

aeromanKC

(3,850 posts)
7. And family (I don't think Trump's going to make it to be an ex president)
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:23 PM
22 hrs ago

But the family will!!

gfarber

(228 posts)
9. Clinton Precedent
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:40 PM
22 hrs ago


There once was a hearing so rough,
Where Congress cried, “Enough is enough!”
“You dragged Bill through the mud,
So we’ll return the good thud—
Now Trump gets the cuffs and the huff.”

The GOP smirked with delight,
Hauling Clintons in late every night.
But the Dems just laughed back,
Said, “You scratched a big crack—
Now it’s our turn to give you a bite.”

Said Frost with a leer and a grin,
“You opened the door—let us in.
If you like it real raw,
With subpoenas and law,
We’ll call Don and the kids and the kin.”

When Epstein got waved like a flag,
The whole damn thing started to sag.
“You wanted the past? Just
Hope you’re ready—because
We’re subpoenaing everything you brag.”

“There’ll be oaths,” said the Dems, “nice and tight,
No wiggle, no dodging, no flight.
You set the damn bed,
Now lie in it,” they said,
“And we’ll watch while you squirm in the light.”

So beware when you threaten with glee,
To drag ghosts in for all eyes to see:
If you tug on that thread,
Soon it’s your ass instead
Getting hauled in by precedent—whee!”

Bev54

(13,317 posts)
10. It will never happen, he will either be dead or in a mental facility before he ever
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:41 PM
22 hrs ago

testifies. This is completely empty threat for him but not for his kids, which you will see moving to the UAE when he is out of power. They will be investigated as will those who carried out his orders.

Edit to add: he will likely provide everyone in his admin pardons before he goes either way, if it hasn't already been done.

C_U_L8R

(49,105 posts)
11. Not very good chess players
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:43 PM
22 hrs ago

It's doubtful they'd do any better at checkers.
How about a nice game of Go Fish.

lastlib

(27,769 posts)
15. Tic-tac-toe is the limit of their mental faculties.....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:12 PM
21 hrs ago

On a good day, they can count to three without using fingers.

mr715

(3,217 posts)
14. Yup yup yup.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:02 PM
22 hrs ago

I know President Clinton and Secretary Clinton are going to run circles around Comer et al.

The GOP in Congress have no idea the forces they are meddling with.

For one, Sec. Clinton isn't even in the files, so it is blatantly a "witch hunt" on its face. Additionally, the Clintons are not political aspirants and need to be neutralized. They are, at best, elder statespeople. At worst, they have no influence on electoral politics anymore.

dlk

(13,169 posts)
18. And how many years has Jim Jordan thumbed his nose at his congressional subpoena?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:21 PM
21 hrs ago

The hypocrisy is epic.

GiqueCee

(3,606 posts)
19. Comer...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:25 PM
21 hrs ago

... you blithering idiot, it is rumored that there are telephone poles smarter than you. Careful what you wish for, dumbass.

intheflow

(30,069 posts)
20. Bullshit.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:29 PM
21 hrs ago

The only way Republicans will ever honor a Congressional subpoenas again is if they are already locked up and forced to comply by the bailiff. The Dems really screwed their own pooch by not hold Gym Jordan in contempt over his J6 subpoenas. Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot!

Response to bigtree (Original post)

progressoid

(52,788 posts)
24. Wait wait wait. So a family of known law breakers is suddenly going to agree to appear from a subpoena that has no teeth
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:48 PM
21 hrs ago

just because the Clintons agreed to it?

On what fucking planet is this going to happen?

2naSalit

(100,877 posts)
42. That being said...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:13 PM
19 hrs ago

They will likely be regretting it a few minutes in because both of them have, individually, more intellect than the entire republican caucus on a bad day. It will be a two batch popcorn day for sure.

swong19104

(591 posts)
46. ... if
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 07:05 PM
17 hrs ago

he’s still alive when the Dems take over. But all others, including Gym Jordan, will have to be escorted into the chamber by armed guards if they don’t voluntarily comply.

chicoescuela

(2,791 posts)
50. As much as I tend to agree with this, I don't see tsf ever testifying in Congress. Ever
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:21 PM
13 hrs ago

I hope I’m wrong but he has skated through everything in life.
From pedophile to getting caught on tape talking about grabbing pussy. No one ever in the course of humanity has an individual escaped consequences. Maybe after 80 years it will happen?

oldmanlynn

(793 posts)
54. Democrats are getting played again
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:47 AM
12 hrs ago

There’s no way Republicans will hold up to their word.

augyboston

(379 posts)
58. Kentucky Representative James Comer is...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 07:28 AM
5 hrs ago

KY Rep James Comer is a fucking idiot and this proves it!

He and his cohorts on the House Oversight and Accountability committee have opened the door and the Democrats can't wait to pass through it.

What a complete moron!

AverageOldGuy

(3,536 posts)
61. And remember:
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:59 AM
3 hrs ago

Trump is both the CURRENT SERVING President as well as being a FORMER President.

So subpoena FORMER President Trump.

LiberalArkie

(19,466 posts)
65. I can already hear it. The Democrats issue a subpoena to Trump, Trump says NO. Democrats say ok fine.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:23 PM
39 min ago
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