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applegrove

(130,529 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 04:39 PM Friday

Renee Good's ICE shooter not taken to hospital after shooting.

NEW: Jonathan Ross, the ICE thug who murdered Renee Good, was NOT TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL according to police reports. He was taken to the Federal Building. He was NOT INJURED. www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01...

Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com) 2026-01-16T15:37:30.509Z
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Renee Good's ICE shooter not taken to hospital after shooting. (Original Post) applegrove Friday OP
We all saw it oldtime dfl_er Friday #1
Has it been stated officially that he was taken to a hospital for treatment on an outpatient basis? mahatmakanejeeves Friday #2
I believe there's only a very low probability that he suffered from any internal bleeding having watched AZJonnie Friday #3
Thanks for getting the AI on that. mahatmakanejeeves Friday #9
LOL popsdenver 11 hrs ago #41
There'd be 500 news trucks in the hospital parking lot whenever he eventually walked out if it were a remotely long stay AZJonnie 11 hrs ago #42
His cold frozen heart probably shattered and bled out ToxMarz Friday #20
Trump claimed he was hospitalized. Doodley Friday #28
So what? We are supposed to believe that ridiculous message Trump posted to his own twitter?! anneboleyn Yesterday #34
I think the poster just was answering the question of whether anyone REALLY claimed RandomNumbers 15 hrs ago #37
There is a medical center located near the Whipple federal building however anneboleyn Yesterday #33
He LIES. Jilly_in_VA Friday #4
That pos murderer didn't have a single scratch so yeah, that's total BS. Dave Bowman Friday #5
CBS said he had internal bleeding senseandsensibility Friday #6
You mean See BS? littlemissmartypants Friday #13
And the staff at CBS is pissed at how they've covered it. TheRickles Friday #14
A bruise is technically internal bleeding under the skin NickB79 Friday #19
There was no bruise Blues Heron Friday #29
Ellison getting his money's worth from Bari Weiss LessAspin 14 hrs ago #38
He walked away texting and was spotted the next day moving boxes out of his house Prairie Gates Friday #7
The entire administration lies about everything, everyday, brazenly. spanone Friday #8
Impeach these liars please malaise Friday #10
From that thread, 2 replies irisblue Friday #11
K&R UTUSN Friday #12
He ran home, packed up his stuff, and cleared out within hours FakeNoose Friday #15
Yup. Hauled his computer and several boxes out of his house. travelingthrulife Friday #21
See? BS! BidenRocks Friday #16
Of Course Not... All we Do is Fight LIES & Cha Friday #17
It was such an obvious lie The Revolution Friday #18
Course not. They took him last year. They're gonna use the same records, too. Iggo Friday #22
And again, it begs the question, why has he not been arrested? Bluetus Friday #23
Well, they could issue an arrest warrant immediately, but I guarantee you Wednesdays Friday #24
Of course. And the FBI won't help apprehend him Bluetus Friday #31
I didn't look it up to see if true but there were pictures of him moving furniture out of his home Bev54 Friday #25
Leaving the scene is not indicative of a justified killing. Norrrm Friday #26
Trump said the killer had been run over. (a lie, of course) Norrrm Friday #27
If there was even the slightest bruise or scratch we would have seen it by now. Total lie. Blues Heron Friday #30
MF Liars! brakester Yesterday #32
Fifth Avenue Gundown czarjak 17 hrs ago #35
Larded-up lying sacks of shit wolfie001 17 hrs ago #36
"He was ruthlessly run over by a professional agitator." Kid Berwyn 13 hrs ago #39
Miller probably had some of his goons ... BurnDoubt 12 hrs ago #40

oldtime dfl_er

(7,160 posts)
1. We all saw it
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 04:40 PM
Friday

cold blooded murder. He was not in any danger. He needs to be brought to justice IN MINNESOTA.

mahatmakanejeeves

(68,411 posts)
2. Has it been stated officially that he was taken to a hospital for treatment on an outpatient basis?
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 04:46 PM
Friday

All I have heard is that he “suffered internal bleeding to the torso.” The federal building in Minneapolis might be equipped with a health care center. The one where I worked was. He could have been seen in such a center by a registered nurse or nurse practitioner.

Full disclosure: I am not hanging on every word.

AZJonnie

(2,924 posts)
3. I believe there's only a very low probability that he suffered from any internal bleeding having watched
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 04:57 PM
Friday

the many video breakdowns over the past week. She was barely moving at that point, and he leaned into the vehicle to cause the contact. He was in control of how hard he was, or was not, struck.

Also, had the theoretical NP seen him at the Federal Building, if there were signs of remotely significant internal bleeding, he'd have been sent to the hospital.

To answer your question, I asked AI, take it for what it's worth:

Yes. Multiple officials have explicitly said he was taken to a hospital and treated after the incident.

- Homeland Security Secretary **Kristi Noem** told reporters on Jan. 7 that Jonathan Ross “was hit by the vehicle,” **“went to the hospital,” was treated by a doctor, and was released the same day**. [cbsnews](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-officer-who-shot-renee-good-internal-injuries-sources-say/)
- DHS officials later told outlets like CBS News, USA Today, and ABC that Ross **suffered internal bleeding to his torso** “when he was struck by her vehicle,” and confirmed that he was **seen by doctors at a local hospital and discharged later that day**. [usatoday](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/14/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-injured-internal-bleeding-torso/88182659007/)

So at the official level, the line has consistently been: **struck by her SUV → internal bleeding → treated at a hospital → released same day.** Whether that’s medically or factually credible is what critics are now disputing, but the hospitalization claim itself clearly originated from DHS and top administration officials.


Despite AI's first line there, it seems you're right to question the "taken to" framing of the OP, nobody said he was "taken to", only that he "went to" or "was seen by doctors at".

mahatmakanejeeves

(68,411 posts)
9. Thanks for getting the AI on that.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:12 PM
Friday

I have a low threshold for finding out what the Project 25 crowd is up to on a day-to-day basis.

USA Today says that he was discharged. Can you be discharged without having been admitted? If you receive treatment at an ER, are you "discharged" following that treatment?

I am not a health care orifessional, but to me, "internal bleeding in the torso" is serious stuff. As in, you're a bullrider, you're bucked by the bull, you land on the ground, and the bull stomps on your chest or abdomen. This can be fatal. You definitely do not walk away.

And good evening.

popsdenver

(1,678 posts)
41. LOL
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 04:13 PM
11 hrs ago

by definition, a dime sized bruise could be defined as "Internal Bleeding"

And if he had been hurt in any way, they would have rushed him to the hospital and made a colossal big deal of it for days and weeks......

AZJonnie

(2,924 posts)
42. There'd be 500 news trucks in the hospital parking lot whenever he eventually walked out if it were a remotely long stay
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 05:01 PM
11 hrs ago

In fact, IQ47 would demand coverage and threaten any network or major newspaper that was absent. They'd be expected to report fawningly on the triumph of the brave ICE officer who miraculously survived the "vicious paid-agitator attack"

Doodley

(11,674 posts)
28. Trump claimed he was hospitalized.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 07:32 PM
Friday

the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115855701696773990

anneboleyn

(5,616 posts)
34. So what? We are supposed to believe that ridiculous message Trump posted to his own twitter?!
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 02:41 AM
Yesterday

This regime lies and lies and lies and lies.

RandomNumbers

(19,080 posts)
37. I think the poster just was answering the question of whether anyone REALLY claimed
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 01:06 PM
15 hrs ago

that Ross was "taken to the hospital" - which the NYT states is a lie. (ok NYT uses different words perhaps, but it was willful deception, so a lie)

Trump or his ghost-poster posted that on LiesSocial, so yes they did state it. (Although elsewhere in this thread there is much more useful evidence. We know Trump lies, so reading anything he posts is pointless.)

anneboleyn

(5,616 posts)
33. There is a medical center located near the Whipple federal building however
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 02:36 AM
Yesterday

One must leave the federal building and then enter the medical center to get treatment. They do not occupy the same building. I don’t believe this story at all given the exaggerated nature of its claim — we can all see that mister powerful iceman moved around with ease as she started trying to turn the car, firing one shot through the windshield that was extremely close to the edge and then two more from the side. Immediately proceeding this he put his phone away in order to draw his weapon. He wasn’t injured in the slightest, and the idea he has torn or ruptured organs bleeding out into body cavities strikes me as ludicrous.

And of course, given that this regime will freely lie about matters even when video evidence undermines their claims, this should be regarded as deceitful and shallow propaganda.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,872 posts)
4. He LIES.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:00 PM
Friday

They all lie. If he has internal bleeding at all, it's from a stomach ulcer he's had for fucking ever.

LessAspin

(1,827 posts)
38. Ellison getting his money's worth from Bari Weiss
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 02:05 PM
14 hrs ago

Ratings and everything else be damned.

As long as they get the narrative that Trump wants out there .. that's all they care about now.

Prairie Gates

(7,290 posts)
7. He walked away texting and was spotted the next day moving boxes out of his house
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:06 PM
Friday

Dude was not hurt at all. To even suggest he was is pure gaslighting bullshit.

I expect it from the right, but it's disgusting to see the usual cop-humpers coming up with reasons to defend this killer even - ahem - close to home.

spanone

(141,085 posts)
8. The entire administration lies about everything, everyday, brazenly.
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:10 PM
Friday

From the Top to the Bottom.

irisblue

(36,911 posts)
11. From that thread, 2 replies
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:13 PM
Friday

Ali Watkins (@aliwatkins73.bsky.social) 2026-01-16T15:38:44.197Z


I've practiced cardiothoracic surgery for 30 years, & I'd be the one you'd call to deal with hemothorax and/or cardiac tamponnade secondary to blunt force trauma. Everything this physician says is 100% accurate. There was nothing visible that could be considered the mechanism of injury for the above

Edison Carter - Network 23 (@edisoncarter23.bsky.social) 2026-01-16T16:03:53.704Z


Nor does Ross show any signs of having sustained such significant blunt force trauma as he saunters back to his car and flees the scene. In any case, no patient admitted with "internal bleeding to the torso" (whatever the fuck that means) would be discharged the same day to "be with his family" .

Edison Carter - Network 23 (@edisoncarter23.bsky.social) 2026-01-16T16:03:53.705Z


FakeNoose

(40,338 posts)
15. He ran home, packed up his stuff, and cleared out within hours
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 05:46 PM
Friday

By the time he'd been doxxed - thanks to Kristi Noem - he had already vamoosed.

The Revolution

(882 posts)
18. It was such an obvious lie
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 06:12 PM
Friday

We can all see he wasn't injured. There was little to no contact with the vehicle. If he did show up with an injury, even that wouldn't prove anything because one of his buddies could have just hit him with something to cause a bruise after he fled the scene.

Bluetus

(2,346 posts)
23. And again, it begs the question, why has he not been arrested?
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 06:35 PM
Friday

Come on, Walz, Frey and Ellison. Speeches are not enough. You do not need any help from the FBI. You have easy access to enough evidence to convict this guy ten times over. What are you waiting for? You could have had an arrest warrant within 2 hours of the killing.

Wednesdays

(21,665 posts)
24. Well, they could issue an arrest warrant immediately, but I guarantee you
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 06:51 PM
Friday

...he's nowhere near their jurisdiction. Or any jurisdiction accessible by anyone but MAGAts.

Bluetus

(2,346 posts)
31. Of course. And the FBI won't help apprehend him
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 10:02 PM
Friday

But that is completely beside the point. We don't need any bullshit speeches about how if we all just stay calm, the system will take care of itself. These people are all afraid of upsetting Baby Donnie. Well, I have news for everybody. Nothing gets better by letting his campaign of retribution go without any resistance. There is absolutely no excuse for not having an arrest warrant by now.

That would be a clear signal to all the ICE thugs that they could end up in prison for their actions. Even if we can't arrest him immediately, he would not be free to move on his own. He might be safe in FL or TX. But with an arrest warrant, he sure couldn't come back to MN, or go to any of the other states where Trump is sending his thugs, for fear of arrest, leading to a long prison term.

Seriously, he could be looking at a life sentence. There could have been an argument for manslaughter -- until the ICE people denied a doctor's care while the victim was still alive. That makes it murder because it is a deliberate, planned act.

But that is all for a jury to decide. Right now, the first step is to show the people we are going to do more than bullshit, empty speeches. We must use the means that are available, and that means prosecuting under the laws of Minnesota, no matter if it makes Trump poop even more in his diapers.

Honestly, I can't believe so many Dems have so many excuses why we can't do anything. This is why we have lost half the people who once identified as Democrats.

Do something. Something more than empty speeches. People can forgive us if we try and fail. They can't stand watching Democrats not even try.

Bev54

(13,235 posts)
25. I didn't look it up to see if true but there were pictures of him moving furniture out of his home
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 07:08 PM
Friday

once he was identified, guess he had to leave his home, what a shame

brakester

(540 posts)
32. MF Liars!
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 01:35 AM
Yesterday

He was tearing around the area like he warming up for a game after he was supposedly "run over" and managed to easily pull out his gun and shoot into a moving vehicle, which is against protocol. Now they are saying he had internal bleeding in his chest. All lies! All of their stories have nary a molecule of truth in them.
Most people would be mortified at making up such tall tales. But they are shameless.

Kid Berwyn

(23,208 posts)
39. "He was ruthlessly run over by a professional agitator."
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 02:15 PM
13 hrs ago

The Big Lie works for NAZIs. At least for a while, unfortunately.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joseph-goebbels-on-the-quot-big-lie-quot

May they all will be held to account.

BurnDoubt

(1,526 posts)
40. Miller probably had some of his goons ...
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 03:37 PM
12 hrs ago

gut-punch him to provide cover.
There is NOTHING they wouldn’t do to further their assault on Democracy.

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