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Frasier Balzov

(4,906 posts)
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:47 PM Wednesday

The nation's loyalties seem like 1776 all over again.

Cute historical rhyming for our 250th commemoration of the American Revolution.

Half the population loyal to the king or uncommitted for their own safety.

The other half ready to revolt.

Except the half who are ready to revolt aren't nearly as armed and furthermore are being urged "not to take the bait."

So the non-violent role models of Martin Luther King and Mohandas Gandhi are being offered.

Why were these role models successful? Did the tyrannies they face ultimately possess more of a moral conscience and sense of shame which undermined the tyrant's determination to crush rebellion?

Could American independence have been achieved non-violently? Could the abolition of black slavery in America have been achieved non-violently? Could the overthrow of religious rule in Iran be achieved non-violently? If my aunt had balls would she be my uncle?

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The nation's loyalties seem like 1776 all over again. (Original Post) Frasier Balzov Wednesday OP
The colonies did not win that war GenThePerservering Wednesday #1
Loyalties in 1776 were not split 50/50 Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #2
You're overlooking the ostensibly neutral. Frasier Balzov Wednesday #3

Fiendish Thingy

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2. Loyalties in 1776 were not split 50/50
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:57 PM
Wednesday

According to Ken Burns’ recent revolutionary war documentary, IIRC, once the Declaration of Independence was issued, only about 25-30% of the US population were hard core Tories.

That is more than the current percentage of hard core MAGA supporters (which is not the same as the number of republican voters).

Frasier Balzov

(4,906 posts)
3. You're overlooking the ostensibly neutral.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:04 PM
Wednesday

Those considerable number who just went along to get along.

Who didn't want to be arrested by British troops or tarred and feathered by their rebel neighbors.

That would be the sizable portion today who are not overtly pushing back against Trump.

And who can blame them for wanting to keep their heads down and try to lead normal lives?

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